Can you obtain a retirement visa in Pattaya using an Issan address and then move later?

Feb 9, 2024
9 months ago
Jason *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Can you get your retirement visa in Pattaya from an agent and give the address you will live in Issan(TM30) Then move up there once visa is passed
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The discussion focuses on whether one can obtain a retirement visa in Pattaya using an address in Issan (TM30), with varied opinions shared among community members. Some assert that the TM30 must be filed in Pattaya first, while others suggest that it’s possible to apply for the visa using a Pattaya address and then move. Concerns about dependency on agents and the implications of using them for visa processes are also discussed extensively, pointing out the possible complications of 'greasing' the system and the need for personal financial proof. Overall, the consensus leans towards the idea that if possible, it's better to handle visa applications without relying on agents.
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Nongnuch ********
you don't apply for a visa, you are applying for an 1-year Extension of Stay Permit which is NOT a "visa". And an application to an Extension can only be made on the Immigration which serves the location where he is TM30 registered!
Nongnuch ********
you need to use the Immigration office which serves the area where you are TM30 registered. You don't need an agent to do it. However if you use an agent, they can send your application to another immigration, it depends on how well connected they are
Ady ******
I live in korat and just done a retirement visa in Pattaya and no TM 30 was needed
Nongnuch ********
@Ady *****
maybe they saw on their computer that you have been TM30 registered, yet. If you weren't, they would have told you!
Ady ******
@Nongnuch *******
ok nothing was mentioned so maybe they see then thanks
Nongnuch ********
@Ady *****
did you use an agent? If yes, they might be well connected, so they can apply for you on any immigration, regardless of where you are TM30 registered. Mainly in Pattaya, the whole bunch there gets heavily greased
Matthew *******
If you can do the visa yourself without using an agent do that
Nongnuch ********
the downside is - - - you have to pay the agency every other year. If you decide to join the agency tea money system, there is no way out if it
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
completely wrong. If you meet the criteria for getting the Visa yourself then you can no matter how many times you have used an agent. I dont know why people like you keep posting false information.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
I got my own visa advice group and I don't post false information. I know what I am talking about
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
You have misunderstood me 😕 "People like me" don't post false information! 🤓 Of course if you meet the requirements, your are free to use the agent's service or do the process by yourself. However the topic was using the agent to forge (by greasing the right palms) a visa and the extension without having to meet the requirements. Which results in you getting stuck inside the agent's "hamster wheel" and being forced to use them every other year
Nick ************
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
you clearly stated that "there is no way out if it" which is not correct. In addition a good agent does not forge the extension stamp. It is put into your passport by an immigration officer and signed up by an immigration officer in an immigration office and is as legitimate as any other stamp. The only thing that could go wrong is if they ask for your bank statements at 90 day report or in some other visit to immigration but I have never heard of that happening. Personally the only issue I had was having to go back to the office that issued my stamp to get it moved to a new passport but other than that it was plain sailing with what you call a forged stamp. I even left and re entered The Kingdom with it. Now I have got it myself from my local office. At best your comments are misleading.

I post information based in personal experience during my time in Thailand so I know it is 100% fact in my case but I know other offices can apply the rules differently or even apply different rules.
Michael *******
@Nick ***********
the stamp is not forged nowhere was that suggested kickbacks are paid through the agents to immigration staff to ignore certain criteria usually funds in Thailand - the point being made is that once inside a web of corruption it’s virtually impossible to escape - some folks are happy with that everyone to there own but we should deal in experience based facts
Nick ************
@Michael ******
it was suggested that the Visa was forged. Look back at the comments. I can also tell you that from my personal experience it was quite simple to escape from what you describe as a web of corruption. I did so mainly because I preferred to pay 1900 baht for my extension instead of
*****
baht. Dont argue with me anymore because I know I am right and you are wrong but you will probably continue to perpetuate your incorrect information.
Nongnuch ********
@Michael ******
that's what I meant with my comments. The agent "forges" (greases) the application if one cannot show the required funds.
@Nick ***********
The stamps are REAL, I never claimed they were fakes. The stamps will be official immigration stamps. However, once inside this "greased" hamster-wheel, it is very difficult to get out
Michael *******
@Nick ***********
nope many friends in Phuket are trapped in the agent hamster wheel and they can’t get out - I can only speak for Phuket immig who love agents.
James **************
@Michael ******
they can get out, by leaving and then restarting themselves upon return
Nongnuch ********
@James *************
yes, that's the only way: exit Thailand, start the whole process again, this time fulfilling all requirements and - recommended - using a different immigration (!)
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
sorry but you are wrong again. I know from personal experience which is better than learning from what you read on Facebook.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
and you understood, that some members have made experiences completely different from those you made? We all know, T.I.T. . . . and different Immigrations, different interpretations of rules
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
exactly so stop giving out misleading and often incorrect information.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
you understand "recommended"?
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
yes I understand recommended. What is your point?
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
there is no other point than to do away with your generalizing comments- My advice is sound and proper
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
"the downside is - - - you have to pay the agency every other year. If you decide to join the agency tea money system, there is no way out if it".

Your exact words which are unsound and improper. You are generalising which is of no use to anyone. I suggest you take up an alternative means of filling your time.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
he doesn't apply for a visa, he said he is applying for an 1-year Extension of Stay Permit which is NOT a "visa". And an application to an Extension can only be made on the Immigration which serves the location where he is TM30 registered! Some agents however can apply on a different immigration - it depends on how well connected they are . . and if he has no own money, and needs the agent to "grease" the wheels of immigration, he must be aware that in the next year he must use the agent AGAIN. If he needs the agent hamster wheel only one time, there is no easy way out of it anymore
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
I'm not arguing with you anymore. You are wrong as I have done exactly what you say can not be done and quite easily.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
i am not argueing with somebody who is using an illegal method in order to buy himself a longstay in Thailand. You are openly admitting that you are greasing the palms of immigration by using an agent, without you having your own money. And you should know best that is is not easy to leave the agent's hamster wheel once you have started to bribe them
Nick ************
@Nongnuch *******
so what you are saying is that I am a liar. I've proved what you have said is wrong but you are not man enough to admit it. I'm out. Have a nice day.
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
you have proved absolutely nothing. You are only claiming it. Yes, have a nice day
Nongnuch ********
you are openly advocating the use of illegal methods - the use of an agent to achieve a longstay permit without being able to do the financial proof by yourself. I sincerely hope that you are aware this being a violation of Facebook standards and the group rules
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
I am not argueing with you anymore, you are full of wrong information and clueless generalizations
Nongnuch ********
@Nick ***********
555! Are you real or are you a Troll ?
Michael *******
Have a good day BE
Nick ************
@James *************
and that is another way.
Michael *******
@James *************
sure they can but a lot of grief if they live on another continent -just saying 🤔
James **************
@Michael ******
irrelevant. They can leave without an exit waiver thingy and the whole process starts from scratch. Don't need to return home just exit....
Nick ************
@Michael ******
that's most likely because they dont have or dont want to have the necessary funds in a thai bank account.
Nongnuch ********
@Michael ******
thank you for confirming my information
Andy ********
@Nick ***********
not completely wrong. Once you use an agent it is hard to get away from using an agent. Some local offices won’t deal with you if you have used an agent. If you meet the criteria for the visa it is best to do it yourself.
Nick ************
@Andy *******
I had no problem with my local office save for new passport but I have to agree with you that it is better to do it yourself if you can. In the middle of covid, when I suddenly found myself unable to get back to the UK, an agent was my only option to get a long term Visa extension and they did an excellent job.
Nongnuch ********
@Andy *******
thank you for confirming my information
Nongnuch ********
agencies are known to forge and grease any longstay permit you are willing to pay for
David ********
Yes you can get a visa any where and move anywhere
Nongnuch ********
@David *******
he doesn't apply for a visa, he said he is applying for an 1-year Extension of Stay Permit which is NOT a "visa". And an application to an Extension can only be made on the Immigration which serves the location where he is TM30 registered! Some agents however can apply on a different immigration - it depends on how well connected they are
David ********
Lol everyone knows what I mean vissa / ext, your written English isn’t perfect but I’m fortunately not a member of the keyboard police 🤙😜
Taz **********
Get you ur visa in Pattaya using an address in Pattaya, then move to where you want to live and do a change of address at immigration in the new location
Jason *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Taz *********
near Nakhon Panhom a village
Jason *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Taz *********
ok thanks 👍
Taz **********
@Jason ********
what part of issaan are you planning
Andy *******
No. You will need file a TM30 in Pattaya first.
Jason *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andy ******
ok thanks does it have to be for a year
Andy *******
@Jason ********
can be for a day, hotel even.
David ********
@Jason ********
no he’s not got a clue I’ve used agent in Pattaya n live in Bangkok the agent sorts all the paperwork out that’s y you pay him
Andy *******
@David *******
I hope you're not talking about me. I have a lot of clues, been in and out of Pattaya for 40 years and also use the best agent in Pattaya. The guy didn't mention an agent so to do it yourself, you'd need a TM30 on file to use that immigration office. I'm smart, from America, not UK.
Matthew *******
@Andy ******
he did mention an agent unless the initial post was edited
Andy *******
@Matthew ******
he edited
Matthew *******
@Andy ******
ok

Makes sense
Jason *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@David *******
ok thanks David
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