Can I use Google Voice for 2-Factor Authentication while living in Thailand?

Aug 18, 2024
3 months ago
Sean ********
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A question about telephones. We have US cellphones, but we're moving to Bangkok in November. Ditching the US phones (but we can keep the number, according to Consumer Cellular), and we will buy a new phone in Thailand. I'm worried about a few US corporations that like to 2-Factor authenticate on a US phone number, has anyone 1. used Google Voice, and 2. can it be used for 2-Factor authentication?
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The conversation addresses the challenges of using US cell phones and maintaining US phone numbers while living in Thailand. Users discuss options for using Google Voice and dual SIM phones for 2-Factor Authentication (2FA). While some report success with Google Voice for 2FA, others warn that many US banks and companies may not accept virtual numbers for security reasons. Participants share personal experiences with different mobile plans and services, including Tello and AIS, and suggest keeping a US phone number active for essential communications versus obtaining a Thai phone and number for local use.
Jason *********
Keep your USA phone with a cheap plan. You will need it and it makes life simpler. Get a thai phone and number here at the mall. AIS or any of the top 3 carriers.
Rfael ************
I've been doing this for over 20 years, may I suggest: Have 2 separate phones for each country, as it will minimize all kinds of compatibility complications. Keep your US Phone, it's number, your operating system and all your apps intact on that phone. Buy an unlocked THAI based phone. Android is a better choice when outside the US. Make sure the country setting on that App store is THAILAND. Buy a prepaid SIM card, (I suggest with AIS), and depending on your needs, it will cost you $10 - $40 per month. You can use the Hotspot/Wifi on your Thai phone to feed your US phone any time. In my experience, this is the best way to go about it, as mixing multiple countries into 1 phone, is sure to cause problems. To make US calls from Thailand (with YOUR US phone number displayed on caller ID), I use Skype for $10/mo unlimited calls. Switching your US Phone account to Tello to save money works well too. Many US financial websites and apps may not work well when accessing it from outside the US. For that you may need a VPN, which has other travel advantages too. Hope that helps.
Bruce *********
I bought a phone in Bangkok at AIS that has 2 sim chips. I was able to keep my USA number with google Voice and have a Thai number all in one phone. I have an Oppo Real Find X Cell Phone.
Jo **********
just get two phones. I have one for the Netherlands (Dutch sim) and a separate Thai phone with Thai sim
David ********
Your question is wide and far with a thousand answers. And, they’re all wrong except for mine! 😜

After long and exhausting research this is what I decided. In my case it’s a little different because I’m now traveling internationally full time so I needed a solution that will work anywhere. So far it has.

1. I ported my US number I had with T-Mobile to Tello.

2. I selected a plan that only offers talk of 100 minutes and free texts. (No data) This cost <$6.

3. I then put $20 US on their “Pay As You Go” plan that pays the small fees for wifi calls too and from nearly anywhere.

4. I only turn on the cellular service when I need to receive one of this authentications texts. This assures my $20 on the pay is your goal. Plan isn’t getting eaten up by roaming data.

5. This is the big one! Before leaving the states I purchased an inexpensive android smart phone. Whatever country I’m in I then buy a tourist Sim for data only. I use that phone (Redmi 13) as a hotspot to connect my iPhone to so I have mobile Wi-Fi via the hotspot.

I do it this way because it’s the least expensive and most functional.

The data here in Thailand cost about $16 per month. Then with the six dollars at Tello puts me at $22 per month and the $20 on pay as you go will last at least two months.

The beauty of it is, if for some reason my data runs out from my sim/hotspot phone, I can still turn on my Tello and use it in an emergency which runs off of the $20 pay as you go.

Easy peasy!!
Sean ********
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@David *******
Well, thank you, David. East Peasy, as you say. Let me peruse your 'method' and try to understand its intricacies. If I have any questions can I PM you back?
David ********
@Sean *******
Certainly.
Sean ********
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Thank you everyone for some much really good answers (and a few strange, off-subject ones) 😀. I took what I learned and ran it through AI; they came up with the following, which seems reasonable. I'm still left with the alternative to the second sim which is Google Voice, but there seems to be some contention if it is acceptable for 2FA or not (some say 'yes', some say 'no'). I have a little time, so I might run some tests. But anyway, thank you all again. What a great FB site.
Us *****
@Sean *******
just make sure that your US plan can receive messages internationally
Sean ********
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@Us ****
How will the caller know where I am if I am using WiFI?
Jeffrey ************
Have a dual sim phone. 1 USA contract, the other Thai contract.
Greg *********
I use Google Voice and ported my number $20. Works great 👍 works with my banks and credit cards. My family text and calls me
Joseph *******
A couple of years ago, my family & I thought we’d be returning to the LoS. So we bought two new iPhones & subsequently got them unlocked so we could replace the sims after the move. iPhones typically cost two to three times more in Thailand than in the U.S.
มิเชล *********
If you have a samsung galaxy s or apple iphone, they are international phones and you don't need to ditch them
John *********
You can keep your US phone number if you pay the monthly plan. I live in Thailand 6 months a year and tried a few different methods to do 2 factor authentication that did not work well. I switched to T-Mobile lowest cost plan so I can switch between SIM cards in Thailand to do 2 factor authentication.
Tom ******
I use Magic Jack with a Florida number
Declan **********
If you phone is locked to a carrier you can pay around $30 and get it internationally unlocked. Takes a few seconds. The next phone you buy make sure it is an international model, costs a little bit more but you don't have to mess around and can be used in any country with any SIM card.
Bob *********
All my banks refuse to send 2fa codes to app based VOIP numbers like Google voice, WhatsApp, etc. If you do porr you number over to a VOIP app the banks will detect the transfer after 30 days and the cut off the 2fa codes to the number. Your best bet on phones that work in Asia and the US is to get 2 Samsung A15 phones at bestbuy (they sell them unlocked) and make one the hotspot for the other. Transfer your number to tello, as you can change the plan each month and just just pay $7 a month when your in Asia, and go unlimited for $25 a month in america.
Sean ********
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@Bob ********
I will never be in America again - we're leaving. I just need 2FA for US account while I live and die in Thailand. Two phones? Is that better than 2 sims?
Ken ********
I bought an unlocked Galaxy s22 Ultra from Best Buy in Dallas Texas one physical Sim a bunch of esims you're good to go and I did that in 2022 before that I had a Galaxy S7 dual SIM International. I lived in Thailand for a few months with it used AIS for the service there I've been in Vietnam since 22 and I use viettel here. Still keep my Us phone number that's on the e-sim
Sean ********
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@Ken *******
OK, thank you.
Richard *****
Most, if not all, US banks do not work SMS with virtual phones of any type.

The reason is purely that a physical number and more importantly, the IEMI number is tied to an owner’s ID so can be checked on government data bases.
Sean ********
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@Richard ****
What is an IEMI?
Richard *****
@Sean *******
Oh look, I Googled it for you! 🙄

An IMEI number, or International Mobile Equipment Identity, is a 15-digit number that is unique to each mobile phone or device. It's similar to a phone's fingerprint and can be used for a variety of purposes, including:

Tracking stolen phones

Phone carriers and law enforcement can use IMEI numbers to track stolen phones (read - any phone) and help locate them. If your phone is stolen, you can call your service provider to get your IMEI number so you can block access to your personal information and prevent being billed for the device.

Checking compatibility

You can use your IMEI number to check if your device is compatible with a network.

Checking information

You can use your IMEI number to check information about your phone, such as its country of origin, manufacturer, and model number.

You can find your IMEI number in a few different ways:

Check your device settings

For example, on an Android device, you can go to Settings, then About Phone, and then scroll down to find your IMEI number.

*Dial #06#

On most smartphones, you can dial *#06# to display your IMEI number on the screen. Dual-SIM phones may show two IMEI numbers, one for each SIM slot.

Check the device itself

You can look for your IMEI number on a sticker on the back of your device, under the battery, or on the box it came in.
Sean ********
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ok, so what are we saying here. It is better to have 2 phones or 2 sims rather than google voice? (Thank you for the knowledge; I certainly didn't know this).
Jim ********
I use Tello and use their 300 mins, unlimited text, no data plan for $6/month . Kept my U.S. number via eSIM on my U.S. unlocked iPhone.

The service works on WiFi and you can make calls receive/send texts while connected to WiFi.
Sean ********
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OK, thank you.
Jim ********
Mike *****
Sometimes 2-Factor works with gvoice, sometimes not.

Depends on the institution.

You'll want to set up a gvoice number in advance to test.
Sean ********
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@Mike ****
Yes, thank you. I'm leaning towards google voice because I kind of understand it, and I've heard of google.
Mike *****
@Sean *******
Gvoice is a great backup option regardless. It's free, accepts text, calls and VM. It also forwards texts to email and even transcribed VM to email. And it works around the world for voice calls on wifi (call quality is not the best though but for free it's great).

Only reason some institutions won't be successful with using it for 2FA is because there's so much fraud and they're tightening their security.
Alain ***************
I was able to change my home country phone plan to prepaid and just keep a minimal amount on it. Works fine for receiving 2 factor auth text messages. So I have a thai and swiss sim ( one is eSIM). I just turn the swiss line off or at least disable roaming. If i expect a text, i turn it on for a minute
Sean ********
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@Alain **************
OK, I understand that. I wonder if the Americans would be that practical?
Alain ***************
@Sean *******
is dont know much about American cell phone carriers but i believe technology is the same everywhere. Just be careful if you have data roaming active on your US sim, it will cost you an arm and a leg if you receive a photo or something while you’re not on WIFI. That’s why I’m on prepaid for the foreign line. Even when i accidentally get charged, i can’t lose more than the 10$ i have on it
Brian **************
Not sure about anyone else but once I activate my eSIM in Thailand and turn on my Verizon number, my eSIM doesn’t work properly any longer and had 2dtep verification issues

Not sure if you have a Verizon eSIM and Thai eSIM
Sean ********
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@Brian *************
It's baffling.
Gary ******
With AIS just download the app and I can pay for more minutes right for my phone and my Thai bank. You can also go into an AIS office and buy more minutes there. It’s really easy.. Actually, what you’re paying for is more baht and that goes towards how many minutes you’re talking
Gary ******
I have an American phone that I took to Thailand that has an e-sim from Visible that is Verizon. I also have a SIM card from AIS in the phone that is a Thai company and it is a Thai number. They’re both turned on when I get there. When people from America call me to my US number it goes through to my US phone number. And when people call me to my Thai number it just goes through the same. I have WhatsApp on my phone for both phone numbers. so it’s easy to use In Thailand . I have an iPhone.
Judy *********
@Gary *****
wish I would of know this earlier.
Alain ***************
@Gary *****
is do the same. When telemarketers call me on my swiss line and i don’t pay attention to which line they call me, they don’t like when i pick up in thai. At least they hang up pretty soon
Sean ********
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@Gary *****
Thank you, excellent answer, or should I say, an answer I can understand. 😃
Marty *********
I think the safest path is to buy your phone in the US. Buy it unlocked. This will cost more. Make sure it has 2 sims, physical sims or esims, doesn't matter. Have the store where you buy the phone put your US number on the phone. They should be able to do this for you. When you are in Thailand you can buy a Thai phone plan. Same thing. They can put the Thai phone number on your US phone.

What US plan you use is up to you. Test it with your bank while you are in the US. Look into the fees to use that number internationally. The US phone company knows when you are using the phone number outside the US. International use will cost more.

Regarding 2 factor authorization, check to see if your bank and any other institution you are using will allow authorization via email. Both of my US banks allow that.
Sean ********
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@Marty ********
Thank you for an answer that stupid people like me might actually understand. I get it. Regarding 2FA, yes, some use or will accept email. It's getting to the point where it is easier to transfer money from one company to another just to use 2FA. Crazy! Thank you.
Sri ***
U can use google voice , transfer the number before you disconnect as it send OTP to that number to activate google voice
Sean ********
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@Sri **
What is OTP, please?
Mark *********
this is a complicated topic. I've been traveling internationally for the last 5 years and settled in the Thailand this May. My experience with banks is they can get really picky. For example, I have a mail forwarding service and the banks will not send my replacement credit cards there. I have to have somebody with a real physical address receive the cards. keeping that in mind, I have stuck to service from American cellular phone companies with American numbers. My current two are mint and twigby. One is an annual service and the other is month to month. another issue is that some phones are blocked by American cellular phone companies. I bought an oppo phone here in Thailand, slipped my American SIM into it and after multiple rounds with customer service was unable to get the SIM to be recognized by Wi-Fi calling to the US. The best reason I heard for this problem was that the Chinese company that makes this phone is under sanction from America due to some type of spying issue. so these are the kind of oddball things you can run into when it comes to cell phones. another issue is that you must be an America to activate an American number with an American SIM card from an American company, so make sure you get the cell phone stuff done before you leave! Get an unlocked phone and port your old numbers to it. Good Luck!
Sean ********
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@Mark ********
Thank you. I actually understand mostly what you say. Credit cards? Next problem. Can I ask you some really silly questions? 1. you have US phone with a US number (with, say, twigby), and a US bank can send a 2FA to you in Thailand on that number? 2. What do you mean by getting an unlocked phone (well, I understand that), but what are you porting to it?
Mark ***********
There is an app called Fanytel. Gives you a US number for calls and texts. In and out. Fairly inexpensive. Works well. Otherwise a Skype in number works, but no voice mail is available on Skype.
Eric **********
Skype is your friend. Works for Fidelity and my local bank back home…
Eric *****
@Eric *********
Be careful, many 2FA services do not work with VoIP phone numbers. They all work with a real USA SIM.
Eric **********
@Eric ****
Fidelity and my credit union work just fine…
Eric *****
@Eric *********
Yes and some 2FA can be done by them calling your VoIP number and using voice.
Eric **********
@Eric ****
Yes I ported my number and have Google voice. Never use it. Just as a backup
Sean ********
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So, Skype might work or it might not?
Kool *******
Google voice is too expensive. Set up a 2ndLine account before you leave the US, and get the premium package at $38 a year. Once you get here you can tie it to your Thai phone, and it works for authentication at both my US banks, and other sites. It is the best to use. As long as you keep the premium account the number you selected never changes. Other services only guarantee you keep the same number for a year. I've had mine for 6 years now with 2ndLine, getting calls and messages from it on my Thai phone.
Sean ********
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@Kool ******
Can you explain? 2nd line account with who? How do I tie two phones together? What is a Premium Package?
Sean ********
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OK, still lost.
Kool *******
@Sean *******
2ndLine is a VOIP phone app.
Mike **********
Just Buy a New Phone IN Thailand

And a Thai Sim Card

Go forward from there

Cheapest & easiest
Sean ********
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@Mike *********
Well, I read your words, but they seem to contradict what everyone else says. If I buy a phone and plan in Thailand, then I have a Thai number. How is, say, TRowePrice gonna believe I'm in the US?
Christopher ********
Better to keep your usa phone and number, but not keep any data plan. Then get a cheap Thai phone and number and pay the 400bht per month to use a hotspot to maintain your usa phones data and calling.
Sean ********
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@Christopher *******
What? I have no data on my phone. I make - maybe three calls a month - I just need it for 2FA.
Sean ********
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What?
Steve ********
Dennis ******
Make sure whatever you decide, do it before leaving the US. Some of them can't be done outside the country.
Sean ********
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@Dennis *****
OK. How does one know if you can use it in Thailand or not. This whole industry is bizarre.
Dennis ******
@Sean *******
using it, yes. Just found you can't set it up outside the US, even with a VPN. Need to have all that done before leaving the US.
Steve ********
@Sean *******
you can use your phone anywhere in the world. You might be missing the point. You can keep your old US cell phone and use it only when needed. Buy another phone here and put in a Thai SIM card. Done
Sean ********
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@Steve *******
OK, so - for dummies like me - I can keep a US phone just for 2FA (switch on when needed), and use another phone (or sim card) in Thailand for local calls. Is that right?
Steve ********
@Sean *******
I usually schedule doing things that will require 2FA and then turn the phone on and do them all. Has worked out well for me so far.
Steve ********
Ken ***********
It’s dirt cheap to get an unlimited data sim card in Thailand. I pay 15$ month for dtac. And I have a second usa phone I only pay 15$ month for just so I don’t run into issues while in Thailand. My suggestion is wait year before you decide to ditch your usa phones. I bought a used iPhone 12 because it was the last phone that uses SIM cards. You don’t want to be stuck in Thailand and not be able to contact your banks in the states.
Sean ********
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I'm so confused. I really don't use phones hardly at all. I hate them. If I keep my CC phone (with it's sim card), how can I use that in Thailand for 2FA?
Eric *****
@Sean *******
you turn on Wi-Fi calling
Ken ***********
@Sean *******
I keep my usa phone only for 2FA. My international phone I have 12 different sim cards for all the countries I travel to just this year. It’s not the best way to go but for now it works having two phones
Steve ********
@Sean *******
turn off data and roaming and always use on wifi. Only when you HAVE to use it though. Otherwise keep it off. I’m fortunate in that my whole family and most my friends in the US all use iPhone. So I have my Thai sim and can FaceTime and text message to them for no cost.
Eric *****
@Ken **********
- Probably better to never to give up the USA SIM card. It's not just banks that use 2FA. For example, Anthropic uses it.
Eric *****
I have AIS on my newest phone for Thai internet. Then for 2 factor authentication, I keep a Tello SIM on an older phone.
*****************************************************
-- it costs around $7/month to keep the USA SIM card active. It includes 100 minutes per month of international (wi-fi) calling (including Thailand). If I go back to USA, I can bump the Tello card up to $25 a month to have unlimited internet and then move it back down when I leave.
Jim ********
@Eric ****
I do the same thing! When on WiFi I get text for two factor authentication
David **********
You need to buy a dual sim international unlocked phone to keep your US number and have the ability to get a local plan in Thailand. Unfortunately the majority of phones in America are locked until you fully pay them off. I actually got my phone from Google Fi over 3 years ago and it allows me to keep my US number. Then I just buy a local SIM card as soon as we get to our next country.
Sean ********
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@David *********
Well, yes, I just looked. You CAN buy dual sim unlocked phones. It didn't say anything about international. What makes a phone international?
Sean ********
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Still don't understand.
David **********
@Sean *******
I believe most, if not all, unlocked, dual sim phones are international. I just remember that was the 'type' of phone I was advised to get. Most important factor is to get it in the US and set it up before you leave for Thailand. We ditched Sprint/T-Mobile a few months before we left and Google Fi worked great.
Sean ********
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OK, thank you. What is the difference between Google Fi and Google Voice?
Steve ********
@Sean *******
Google Fi used an actual phone. Google voice is virtual.
Tony **********
Easiest approach is to "port" your existing mobile number to Google voice. Almost all corps that use 2fa validate the phone number when it is added to your account. I didn't know of any that validate in real-time. Hence if your bank works with your current mobile phone then it should work to the same number in Google voice.
Sean ********
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@Tony *********
Yes, that's what I thought. Am I missing something? Then all I have to do is pay for the "porting".
Tony **********
Us *****
Switch your number to Google Fi, I pay like 22 bucks a month to keep my US number. Also, the flex plan on Google fi allows you to use your phone in other countries. I use esim on Google fi and active aim card for the Thai carrier
Tony **********
@Us ****
note that if you leave your Fi sim active for more than 90 days, Google will suspend your service.
Us *****
@Tony *********
what are you talking about. You mean inactive? The Google fi flex plans allows you to use it anywhere in the world. As long as you pay the phone bill, they don't care.
Tony **********
@Us ****
read the t&C's about international use. They state that international use is temporary only and if you use internationally for greater than 90 days without us usage they can (and will) suspend you. I don't make the rules, I just read them.
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Us *****
@Tony *********
hmmm interesting, I have had Google Fi for over 2 years now. But I only turn them on once a week to check my messages. Most of the time, I am on my Thai plan. I guess I don't break the consecutive 90 days of use.
Tony **********
@Us ****
that's my hope. You can check messages on the web. Go to messages.google.com. then don't need to activate Fi sim at all. Use a vpn if you have one!
Sean ********
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What? I'm not going to use Google FI - don't know what it is and this is the first I've heard of it. Anyone else use it?
Us *****
@Sean *******
google fi is Google's wireless service. They have contracts with carriers all over the world that allows you to make and receive calls.
Sean ********
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I don't understand. You pay $22 to keep a US phone in Thailand? How do you make local calls?
Sean ********
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My head is spinning....
Wanneeta **********
@Sean *******
so am I!!
Paul *******
@Sean *******
,yeah it is a head spin...Many phones dont necessary accomodate an e-sim, like the one I bought years ago in Cambodia, a Samsung. However, when you look to buy your next phone, get a two( dual) sim card holder. One idea is you can look for a US sim card company like T mobil that has a cheap plan to send and receive ONLY messages. Ive been told some plans are as cheap as 6$ per month to receive only messages. Then when you have the 2 sim cards in your new phone, you switch which Sim card you want on( in the Settings) and receive the 2step authorization number. A phone shop seller can show you how to go into the settings to switch sim cards. The key is having a phone with 2 sim card slots and finding a USA phone company that has an inexpensive, message only service.
Us *****
@Sean *******
I have AIS, a local carrier, for like 5 dollars a month. So I have dual sims.
Sean ********
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@Us ****
Now I'm trying to figure this out. 2 Sims? One for local calls and one for Google Fi? So, before logging in to a US company with 2FA you insert the US sim? Really?
Steve ********
@Sean *******
it’s an eSIM. You don’t have to insert anything. Switch over in settings.
Brandon ************
@Sean *******
dual sim means the phone has 2 sim cards. One is e-sim so it's virtual. One is physical sim. You don't even need a physical sim nowadays. The last 2 iphones don't have a sim slot at all.
Richard *****
iPhones bought in USA have eSIM only. Those bought outside USA have one physical SIM slot. I bought mine in Portugal. Not much difference in price but have a slot as I needed one for an old SIM.
John *******
I still use my T-Mobile phone
Sean ********
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@John ******
You still use a US phone in Thailand?
Sean ********
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So, trying to understand what you are saying: you bought a phone in the US and you're now using it on a Thai phone plan? OK, that's reasonable.
Steve *****
@Sean *******
if you have Tmobile service you can call USA numbers for free using WiFi. You can also get text messages from the USA.
John *******
Aaron ******
I used Google voice all the time.

It works with some but not all 2 factor when I use it.

I also keep a number active on t-mobile that I used in the US and outside. T-Mobile on many plays has free roaming but the calls (if not on wifi) are pricey and the data is slow and not meant for long term use. As long as you turn off data roaming they let you use it for years and years outside the US from what others have said.

Also you should not need new phones. Just make sure your current phones are unlocked.

Not sure how consumer cellular works but if you are keeping numbers active make sure you know how roaming will work to make sure you get any texts or calls you need.
Sean ********
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@Aaron *****
This subject is incredibly complicated. I will dump Consumer Cellular when we leave. The phone is locked and old, so I have no problem in buying a new one in Thailand. CC say I can keep the number, so I was going to "port" it to Google and keep using mostly only for 2FA, but not sure if that is possible.
Steve ********
@Sean *******
I would never buy my phone here. I use iPhone and apply pay. Thais can’t use Apple Pay. If I buy a phone here, I can’t use Apple Pay. Thus, I buy in the US. But your phone there and when you get here, get a Thai SIM card for it. Keep your old phone with your US number in case you need it. Been working for me for years. I don’t notice the $60 dollars I spend to keep the US number.
Aaron ******
@Sean *******
you won’t know if it work till you port the number.

But anything you set up with the number before porting likely will work.

Also phones are often cheaper model to model in the US. But there are cheaper models available in TH that are not available in US.
Sean ********
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@Aaron *****
Thank you, good answer. OK, phones cost more...what? couple hundred bucks. What other reasons for buying in the US?
Aaron ******
@Sean *******
Thailand has higher taxes so most phone available in both countries cost less in the US.

If you plan to maintain a US sim it would make sense to buy the phone in the US and have sim working before leaving.

Those imo are really the only two reasons if you don’t already have a phone you will take to TH.

I guess having a phone during the first hours and days before you could buy has advantages for using Google maps, grab, and etc.
Sean *********
@Aaron *****
good morning, do you mind me asking which plan did you keep with T-Mobile to minimize your monthly cost?
Aaron ******
@Sean ********
I’m on a family plan with others so my part of the bill is an agreed upon $32 a month.

I also regularly return to the US which makes the cost make more sense as well.
Sean *********
@Aaron *****
appreciate your follow up and response
Sean ********
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I'm sorry to say Steve, I know you're using English but I have no idea what you're saying. Phones are just not my subject, that is clear.
Sean ********
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@Aaron *****
OK, I'm leaning towards buying a new US phone with 2 sims. But I'm open to better ideas I can understand.
John ********
Also why do you need to buy a new phone in Thailand? If it’s unlocked then you should be able to use it in Thailand.
Sean ********
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@John *******
Mines locked, old and crappy. I hate phones.
Jared *********
@Sean *******
if it's paid for then can get it unlocked with simply requesting to be unlocked
Sean ********
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@Jared ********
It's time to buy a new phone.
Brandon ************
@Sean *******
newer phones cost more in Thailand than they do in the US.
Brandon ************
Generally it can be used, but some companies will recommend that it's a virtual number when it's on Google voice and they will not let you use it for 2FA.
Sean ********
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OK, so I'm completely ignorant about cellphones. What is a virtual number and why will a bank, say, not allow it to be used for 2FA?
Brandon ************
@Sean *******
Google voice is not a real phone. It's virtual. It's also not secure at all which is why some places will not let you use it. By using a cell phone that means it's something they know you have physically with you. With a virtual number if your account has been hacked they now have to access to every account you have because they can receive all of your text messages.
Sean ********
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@Brandon ***********
OK, understand, thank you.
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