Can I switch from a retirement visa to a marriage visa based on monthly income if my proof of income is delayed?

Feb 20, 2023
2 years ago
Andrew ********
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I am an American here on a retirement visa that expires in July, Nakhon Si Thammarat. I used the lump sum method to get it, but I want to switch to a marriage visa based on monthly income. However, my proof of monthly income for one year will not be satisfied until November (I actually started getting it in July but they paid a lump sum for four months in November. From my understanding they will not accept this as proof of monthly income starting in July?). I plan to go back to the US in the spring and stay until September, so my visa will expire while I am out of the country. My question is, should I enter on a tourist visa, stay until November, and then apply for the marriage visa based on monthly income? 
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The user seeks advice on transitioning from a retirement visa to a marriage visa based on monthly income, highlighting issues with proof of income due to a lump sum payment. A comment suggests that the user may not qualify for the marriage visa due to not meeting the 12-month income requirement and advises considering a tourist visa and using the banked money method to initially apply for a Non-O visa.
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Tod *********
you just plain and simple don't qualify to get a year extension based on marriage using monthly income because of that mix up where 4 months were paid at once into the account. That voided your ability to do it

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In order to change the reason for your extension from retirement/banked money to marriage/monthly income you would needed to have kept the 800K baht in the thai bank account in your name only for 3 months after your retirement extension was given, then the balance couldn't go below 400K baht the rest of the year

AND

you'd need to have deposited a minimum of 40K baht each month every month for the preceding 12 months before you apply for your extension. Switching OFF banked money method to monthly income is the toughest switch

Also you can't get the initial 90 day Non-O or the first year extension based on monthly income unless you legally work inside thailand OR you come from a country whose embassy still issues the affidavit of income from abroad notary (the US does not)

This means if you came back on a visa exempt or tourist visa entry you'd have to use the 400K baht banked money method to get the initial 90 day Non-O and then the year extension. It'd only be the following year that you would be able to use monthly income with 12 months of transfers.
Andrew ********
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Can I just switch to the marriage/banked income from retired/banked income before I leave then? And then switch to the marriage/monthly in November?
Tod *********
@Andrew *******
you could indeed "change the reason" for your extension from one based on banked money retirement to one based on banked money marriage AND in theory you should still have the 400K baht in the account required from the last extension you got (the one you're on) so you shouldn't have any issue meeting the 400K baht in a bank account for 2 months before you apply for the marriage extension

AND

after you did that you could switch to the monthly income method the following year (july).. you couldn't switch in Nov when you hit 12 months of monthly income, you get the extensions a year at a time, so it'd be NEXT july before you could use monthly income for the extension. BUT that would work out 100%
Andrew ********
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@Tod ********
Great, thanks! How soon can I do that before my retirement visa expires in July?
John **********
@Andrew *******
usually 30 or 45 days depending on where you are. From your post you appear to be leaving in spring and returning in September so you're not going to be here for either type of extension by the looks of it.
Andrew ********
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@John *********
Well, I will wait, if it’s easier.
Andrew ********
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@Tod ********
Deposit 400k baht each and every month? I thought it was 45k for a marriage visa?
Andrew ********
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Even better, you had me worried! So I am good with all that, the
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/40. So why can’t I come in on a tourist visa from September until November, when I will have 12 months of 40k+ deposits, then apply for the marriage visa?
John **********
@Andrew *******
because after the tourist visa you have to get a 90 day Non-O visa and you can't get that with monthly income. Then you get an annual extension and you can't get the first extension with monthly income either. After that monthly income is good.
Tod *********
@Andrew *******
sorry one too many zeros, you deposit 40K baht a month each month every month for the previous 12 months for an extension based on marriage to a thai 🙂 not 400K 😮
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