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Can I apply for a Non-O visa while holding a non-immigrant B visa and extension of stay based on employment?

Jean-Paul ***********
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I am holding a non-immigrant B visa and I am working at a University in Chiang Mai on an Australian passport, I am over 50 years old.

From reading a postdated 11/7/23 here in this forum am I correct in the understanding that I can apply for a Non-O visa before I cancel my Work Permit and Extension of Stay (based on the Non-Immigrant B visa), which expires on 30 September? I have held 800K in the bank for over 1 year already.

Otherwise, do I need to cancel my Work Permit and Visa, get an application denied, 7 days to leave stamp in my passport, and then do a border bounce to Laos (probably Chiang Saen) and come back on a 30 day Tourist visa, where I need to apply for a Non-O visa 21 days before the visa expiry date in Chaing Mai?

many thanks in advance!
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The user, holding a non-immigrant B visa and currently employed in Chiang Mai, inquires whether they can apply for a Non-O visa before canceling their work permit and current extension of stay, which is based on their employment. Responses clarify that if the user has an extension of stay rather than a visa, they can apply for a new extension based on retirement after canceling their current extension and work permit, using funds verification. It's highlighted that the applying process for a retirement extension is more straightforward than applying for a Non-O visa.
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You are misunderstanding a bit.

You are on a yearly extension based on employment/teaching, not the first 90 days from the visa itself, is it correct?

Then, You can apply for 1-year extension based on retirement immediately AFTER you cancel your current extension based on employment/teaching and work permit with the termination letter from your employer/school. This is "change the reason of extension".

You can apply for cancellation of extension and WP in advance effective date is the end of your job. Then you may want to apply for a new 1-year extension based on retirement on the last day of your stamp because usually, an extension with a different reason will start on the day of application (but of course, you can talk with your local immigration office in advance if you can do earlier). When your retirement extension starts, if it's earlier than your last date, you can no longer work legally. That's why you may want to go to the last day to apply for new one.

IF you are still on the first 90 days from the non-B visa, you need to leave Thailand and enter on tourist status to apply for Non-O or get one from the consulate. I don't think it's your case.
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Jean-Paul ***********
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@Ellie ******
Yes your right I am on a yearly extension, not the first 90 days.

thank you so much for your help too!
Tod *********
Tod *********
Okay IF I was a betting man I'd bet you don't hold ANY Non-Immigrant type B VISA and instead if you looked at the stamp in your passport you would see you have an 'extension of stay permitted until" stamp with a date on it.

IF in fact that is what you have (an extension of stay) you don't need to apply for a Non-O anything 😮 Nor do you need to bounce out and back, to get on a free entry stamp (which is NOT a 30 day tourist visa 😕 , just a free entry).

What you CAN do is just cancel your extension based on employment and immediately apply for a NEW yearly extension based on being over 50 (retirement) by meeting the proof of funds, turning in the required documents etc.

You're ONLY doing a "reason change" switching from one extension to another (one based on employment to one based on being over 50).

SO go to the Chiang Mai immigration office, on the wall is posted the requirements for a year extension of stay based on being over 50 (retirement),

Get those documents together, TM30, lease, map, bank letter, updated bank book, TM7 form, blah-blah-blah.. THEN cancel your work permit,

Get the documentation from your employer that says you stop on xxx date, go a week or so before that date, cancel the extension and immediatelly apply for the new year extension based on retirement for 1900baht.

That's how it works out when you're on an extension of stay and want to change the reason for being here. People ALL over thailand cancel extension based on employment and apply for new extensions right then based on marriage to a thai or retirement <- that's what you're doing..
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Jean-Paul ***********
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@Tod ********
wow thank you so much for your time and clarification! Yes I checked my stamp it is "Extension of Stay permitted upto" 30 Sep.

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