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Can a tourist on a 30-day VOA in Chiang Mai obtain a Non-O visa in Thailand for retirement purposes?

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A friend newy arrived in Chiang Mai who entered on a VOA - 30 day stamp, went to Chiang Mai immigration yesterday to inquire about obtaining a Non O visa with the intent to ultimately ask for an extension of stay for a year

Based on retirement .

He was told that he could no longer obtain a Non O In country and had to obtain one out of the country.

Is this afvice from CM immigration correct?
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A user sought clarification on advice received at Chiang Mai immigration regarding obtaining a Non-O visa for retirement after entering Thailand on a 30-day Visa on Arrival (VOA). According to comments, there are restrictions on issuing visas to South African passport holders, and applicants must meet specific requirements, such as proof of funds. A suggestion was made to apply for a Non-O visa at the Vientiane consulate, as it has more lenient policies for South Africans. Overall, the poster's friend was advised that the information from immigration might be correct but that opportunities still exist depending on his nationality and compliance with visa requirements.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
There's only ONE consulate I know that will let S/A passport holders show up and apply for visas without the "4 week review period" and that's Vientiane.

If your friend meets the proof of funds he could make an appt (that consulate has mandatory appt requirement) show up, apply for the 90 day single entry Non-O visa based on being over 50 (retirement) for 2000baht then get 90 days when he enters thailand,

When his stamp is down to 45 days or less and his 800K baht has been in the thai bank account for 2 months he can go to the immigration office and apply for the year extension for 1900baht.

He won't have any issue applying for a year extension from a Non-O visa entry even with a S/A passport 🙂
George *******
George *******
@Tod ********
what is a S/A passport?
Tod *********
Tod *********
@George ******
S/A passport = South African passport 😕
Lisa ***********
Lisa ***********
@Tod ********
same for US and UK passports in Vientiane?
Tod *********
Tod *********
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Tod ********
Thanks very much
Tod *********
Tod *********
Chiang Mai (and some other immigration offices) as well as quite a few Thai consulates just refuse to issue visas to South African passport holders.

AND

Even bangkok makes my South African friend get a police clearance from Special Branch EVERY year when he gets a new extension and he's been here 10+ years
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
Does he meet the requirements for application at Chiangmai Mai office? Including remaining days of stamp, prof of funds (in his Thai bank account or embassy letter), etc?

Did he ask for requirement list?
Paul *******
Paul *******
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Tod *********
Tod *********
@Paul ******
he should go back one more time, and he was talking to an officer INSIDE or one of the 'volunteers' outside? I really don't have any solution other than go to Vientiane and buy a 90 day Non-O visa from them. THEN come back and get the year extension
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Tod ********
thanks again.
Tod *********
Tod *********
and he went to the MAIN immigration office and asked right? he didn't go to that satellite office at Central Festival?
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Tod ********
no Tod he went to the main office
Lloyd ********
Lloyd ********
Is your friend from any of these countries? Hong Kong**

Laos

Macau

Mongolia

Russia (&VoA)

Vietnam**
Lloyd ********
Lloyd ********
OK so he entered visa exempt, not Visa on Arrival. I can't think of a reason why CM immigration is saying he can't get an in-country Non-O
Joel ******
Joel ******
@Lloyd *******
curious how much time he has left on his stamp. Doesn't CM require a minimum of 21 days? Doesn't account for a 30 day extension, if he hasn't gotten that yet.
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Joel *****
he has 50+ Days left on his entry stamp, including sn extension.
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Lloyd *******
thanks, that's what i thought.
Paul *******
Paul *******
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@Lloyd *******
No, from South Africa .

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