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Can a person on a tourist visa in Thailand apply for a retirement visa if they are over 50?
Can a person on a tourist visa in Thailand apply for a over 50 retirement visa
Answer summary
Yes, a person on a tourist visa in Thailand can apply for a retirement visa (Non-O) if they are over 50, but there are certain conditions. One crucial requirement is having a Thai bank account with a minimum deposit of 800,000 baht. Without a bank account, the application process can be very challenging. Many expats suggest using an agent for assistance, as they can help navigate the complexities involved in obtaining the necessary visa and bank account. However, some individuals have successfully completed the process themselves by first obtaining a short-term Non-O visa, opening a bank account, and maintaining the required funds for a period before applying for the retirement visa.
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Moteaze ***************
Yes Beautiful
Chop ******
If you're over fifty 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Arve ****************
Yepp.
But not all immigration offices will handle it.
You also have to apply atleast 15 days before your previous stay of the kingdom expires ( som places have 10 days, some 20 )
But not all immigration offices will handle it.
You also have to apply atleast 15 days before your previous stay of the kingdom expires ( som places have 10 days, some 20 )
Petros *********
yes
George *********
I think they need to apply from an embassy outside the kingdom and then exit and reenter with that new visa.
Tim ********
You need a local address, Thai phone number. There's a place in Pattaya called Tiktok that will get you your visa in less than 7 days.
THAI ******************************
@Tim *******
Make a trip to bangkok we have same day service for 55k thb, or if you can wait it can be as low as 45k thb.Bank opening, 3 month non-o, and yearly extension.
Dave *********
@THAI *****************************
how much if bank account already
Greg ***********
*** The simple answer is: Yes, theoretically you can.
However, as a UK citizen, you would need an already existing Thai bank account in your sole name with a minimum of 800,000 TB already sitting in it, in order to be allowed to apply for the “change of visa type” from a visa-exempt or tourist visa entry, to the initial 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa.
*** the crucial point is, on a touristic entry, you can’t get a Thai bank account opened in your sole name.
You would need to enter on the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa which you obtained outside of Thailand, to be able to get a Thai bank account opened.
***some agents offer the “full package”, which means to get around the banking rules and get your bank account opened, the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa issued and followed by the subsequent 1-year extension of temporary stay permit based on retirement.
*** The agent who runs this group is offering a 2-3 weeks services and also a same-day service, starting from 45,000 THB
However, as a UK citizen, you would need an already existing Thai bank account in your sole name with a minimum of 800,000 TB already sitting in it, in order to be allowed to apply for the “change of visa type” from a visa-exempt or tourist visa entry, to the initial 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa.
*** the crucial point is, on a touristic entry, you can’t get a Thai bank account opened in your sole name.
You would need to enter on the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa which you obtained outside of Thailand, to be able to get a Thai bank account opened.
***some agents offer the “full package”, which means to get around the banking rules and get your bank account opened, the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa issued and followed by the subsequent 1-year extension of temporary stay permit based on retirement.
*** The agent who runs this group is offering a 2-3 weeks services and also a same-day service, starting from 45,000 THB
Soeren **********
Yes .
Ken ************
Get an agent
Gabriel ***********
@THAI *****************************
most trustworthy people, save tye hassle. Will do it for my dad next week with them. Nice people, knowledgable and no hidden bs fees. They have a phisical office in bang na area.
John ********
Obtaining a bank account is a problem , agent wanted 75k up front off me with no guarentees when I was in your boat . Of course I flew to my home country and came on the proper visa
Patricia ********
if you are found out for dishonesty you will be deported as well possibly jail time in thailand 🇹🇭 it’s not worth it,, be honest, 👍🏽
Dora *******
Do not spend money on agent
Lee *************
Go in to immigration and apply for Non O based on retirement
OutgoingCat***********
I got a bank account showing a 5 month serviced apartment contract.
I showed them the Non O retirement visa stamp.
I had an AIS number that I had to provide but they didn't ask to see that it was registered to my address.
They didn't ask to see my certificate of residence.
Kasikorn Bank. BIG C mall, On Nut Bangkok.
The whole process took an hour.
I showed them the Non O retirement visa stamp.
I had an AIS number that I had to provide but they didn't ask to see that it was registered to my address.
They didn't ask to see my certificate of residence.
Kasikorn Bank. BIG C mall, On Nut Bangkok.
The whole process took an hour.
Robert *********
What about the medical insurance what kind and of age is there a limit to the age
Dave ******
Robert Roberts non immigrant O medical insurance is not required, for the OA it is.
Robert *********
Dave Owen I have been using Tourist TR Multiple Visa for the last few years 60days and then go to immigration for another 30 days and then do a visa run for 60more days I'm getting tired of doing the visa run is there an easier one for me, I don't want to put money in the bank,I can cover the 65,00 pension ok
Leonard ********
Yes, go to an agent, no problems, you just have to grease the wheels but hassle free
THAI ******************************
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Mick *********
It’s possible to do yourself but maybe not straight forward. Especially with opening a bank account. Try
@THAI *****************************
I have seen them advertising this service. Not sure of the cost though.
Buintje ******
No
Jeff *************
Not legally, if you use a agent you will be stuck using them forever, just go to Laos get it return simple
Johnny ********
Yes absolute
Salman ******
Yes I can
Passionate***********
Go to immigration and talk to the officers, that is their job.
Lindsay ******
Yes
Doc ********
Yes you can by using an agent when you are here. It will cost you so you need to factor that in. Also do you have the 800'000 to deposit it in a Thai bank account there are agents that can do that for you but it's a dodgy way to do but if you're happy to take the risk than go fill your boots. But just be mindful just in case immigration gets wind of it you might run into issues down the road? Anything is possible if you have deep enough pockets.
Doc ********
Yes you can by using an agent when you are here.
It will cost you so you need to factor that in.
Also do you have the 800'000 to deposit it in a Thai bank account there are agents that can do that for you but it's a dodgy way to do but if you're happy to take the risk than go fill your boots.
But just be mindful just in case immigration gets wind of it you might run into issues down the road?
Anything is possible if you have deep enough pockets.
It will cost you so you need to factor that in.
Also do you have the 800'000 to deposit it in a Thai bank account there are agents that can do that for you but it's a dodgy way to do but if you're happy to take the risk than go fill your boots.
But just be mindful just in case immigration gets wind of it you might run into issues down the road?
Anything is possible if you have deep enough pockets.
Lindsay ******
Yes
MNathalie *********
Yes. 30.days before expiring
Mark *******
Yes....go and ask at your immigration office
Mark **********
Immigration will give you an extension to open a bank account that’s what I did
Mark **********
Yes do it yourself less than 5000 bhat that’s counting travel photo copy and verification of documents from your embassy,bit of time involved but do your research and immigration will point you in the right direction
Mark *********
If you can arrive on a NON O visa you have a good chance.. chatgpt can go.through the steps If you arrive on a 90 TR Visa, you will need to either leave and return on a non O visa Or find a visa agent who does this. I tried to work it out but getting a 1 year lease agreement on a property, going to the immigration office for a residence license to openi a bank and get your money.. there is no way you can do it without a visa agent pulling some strings- and it's not cheap. The cheapest I found (with a good reputation - because you could easily lose your money) is 55,000 THB The reason it's best for the full package is it is easy to fail on 1 step... so if you pay 20,000 THB and something takes to long, you fail and lose that money.. and need to leave and start again.
Dan ********
Yes. You can even do it yourself. 1st step change of visa, cost last time I checked 2000 baht, then step 2 apply for the O visa 1900 baht. Step 1 is the hardest as the person in charge will do everything she can to make things difficult and eventually tells to you that you can apply for the quick service forn 22.000 baht !
Osian ********
Yes, go to immigration, its a simple process, you first change to 3 month non-0, then you must open bank account asap, transfer in from overseas your 800k and leave it marinade for 2 months, then back to immigration to extend for 1yr. All very simple, and if doing everything above board no agent required.
MNathalie *********
Yes. 30.days before expiring
Mark *******
Yes....go and ask at your immigration office
Osian ********
Yes, go to immigration, its a simple process, you first change to 3 month non-0, then you must open bank account asap, transfer in from overseas your 800k and leave it marinade for 2 months, then back to immigration to extend for 1yr. All very simple, and if doing everything above board no agent required.
Brandon ************
@Osian *******
the bank account is required to apply for the non-O visa.Osian ********
@Brandon ***********
You cannot get a bank account without a 3 month non-0 visa, yes u need the bank account in order to extend, what part of what I said is inaccurate?Brandon ************
@Osian *******
I'm not confused at all. Only an embassy outside of Thailand accepts foreign bank accounts. To convert from tourist to non-O inside of Thailand, immigration only accepts proof of funds in a Thai bank account. You're not supposed to get visas inside of Thailand.Osian ********
@Brandon ***********
Think you are confused mate, applying for a 3m non-0, you show the equivalent of funds in your home countryBrandon ************
@Osian *******
you CANNOT change to non-O visa without proof of funds in a Thai bank account. So what you explained is impossible.
Mark **********
Immigration will give you an extension to open a bank account that’s what I did
Mark **********
Yes do it yourself less than 5000 bhat that’s counting travel photo copy and verification of documents from your embassy,bit of time involved but do your research and immigration will point you in the right direction 👌😇
Mark *********
If you can arrive on a NON O visa you have a good chance.. chatgpt can go.through the steps
If you arrive on a 90 TR Visa, you will need to either leave and return on a non O visa
Or
find a visa agent who does this. I tried to work it out but getting a 1 year lease agreement on a property, going to the immigration office for a residence license to openi a bank and get your money.. there is no way you can do it without a visa agent pulling some strings- and it's not cheap. The cheapest I found (with a good reputation - because you could easily lose your money) is 55,000 THB
The reason it's best for the full package is it is easy to fail on 1 step... so if you pay 20,000 THB and something takes to long, you fail and lose that money.. and need to leave and start again.
If you arrive on a 90 TR Visa, you will need to either leave and return on a non O visa
Or
find a visa agent who does this. I tried to work it out but getting a 1 year lease agreement on a property, going to the immigration office for a residence license to openi a bank and get your money.. there is no way you can do it without a visa agent pulling some strings- and it's not cheap. The cheapest I found (with a good reputation - because you could easily lose your money) is 55,000 THB
The reason it's best for the full package is it is easy to fail on 1 step... so if you pay 20,000 THB and something takes to long, you fail and lose that money.. and need to leave and start again.
THAI ******************************
@Mark ********
Can be as low as 45,000 thb if you can wait 2-3 weeks. If you need everything same-day then it's 55,000.Mark *********
@THAI *****************************
is this for people who enter with a 90 day TR Visa?
Dan ********
Yes. You can even do it yourself. 1st step change of visa, cost last time I checked 2000 baht, then step 2 apply for the O visa 1900 baht.
Step 1 is the hardest as the person in charge will do everything she can to make things difficult and eventually tells to you that you can apply for the quick service for 22.000 baht !😁
Step 1 is the hardest as the person in charge will do everything she can to make things difficult and eventually tells to you that you can apply for the quick service for 22.000 baht !😁
Francisco *******
Hi. Please tell me the agent cost. Thanks
Frank-Steven ***********
As well established now it will likely fail due to the lack of a Thai bank account - which have become increasingly difficult to open if not on certain arbitrary visa. Having said that and asking the crowd: wouldn’t a Thai Wise account technically also be a Thai bank account - now that Wise was forced into its own legal entity here?
Monica *********
Yes. If they’re over fifty.
Muri *****
Use agent some can do all in 1 day VIP service
Robert ********
Extend tourist visa 30 days. Then apply for 90 day non O retirement. Open Thai bank account in first few weeks and leave
*****
0 baht there. Must be in there for 2 months before applying for 1 year extension on non O retirement
Francisco *******
Exemption to retirement agent cost. Thanks
Francisco *******
Hi. Please tell me the agent cost. Thanks
Muri *****
Francisco Silva 1 day in BKK 60
Sylvia ********
Francisco Silva about 55,000
Kev *********
Sylvia Corley if you paid 55,000 you paid far too much.
Greg ***********
@THAI *****************************
thanks! Good to know in case I get askedTHAI ******************************
@Greg **********
It’s worth noting that our service requires you to visit Bangkok for one day.If you’re able to return to your province by taxi or travel without your passport, you can still take advantage of our more affordable 2-3 week option.
However, if you need your passport returned before leaving Bangkok, you would need to choose one of our expedited packages (50,000-55,000 THB). Depending on your travel arrangements, this may still be more cost-effective than staying in a hotel while waiting.
With our 55,000 THB same-day package, we can arrange airport pickup and drop-off, and our team will accompany you throughout the entire process from start to finish. Everything is handled at Chaeng Watthana Immigration, allowing you to complete the process in a single day and fly home afterward.
Greg ***********
Kev Raymond That's the current going price for the first time. You won't find any agent doing the "full package" (bank account, conversion to Non-O Visa, 12-months extension) for less than 45,000 THB. Myself I have already been quoted 80,000 THB
THAI ******************************
@Sylvia *******
45,000 thb if you can wait 2-3 weeks, and 55,000 thb if you need everything sorted, and stamped in a single day.
Frank-Steven ***********
As well established now it will likely fail due to the lack of a Thai bank account - which have become increasingly difficult to open if not on certain arbitrary visa. Having said that and asking the crowd: wouldn’t a Thai Wise account technically also be a Thai bank account - now that Wise was forced into its own legal entity here?
Greg ***********
Frank-Steven Eichholtz No, you cannot use 800,000 THB sitting inside a Thai Wise account as the 800,000 THB bank balance proof for a Thai long-stay or retirement visa (Non-O / Non-OA) extension at Thai Immigration.
Key Rules for Thai Immigration Financial Proof:
• Thai Bank Account Requirement: The 800,000 THB (or monthly income/combination method) must be held in a Thai commercial bank account in your own name, not in a digital wallet, e-money service, or non-bank multi-currency account like Wise.
• Seasoning Period: For a retirement extension, the 800,000 THB must be seasoned in that Thai bank account for a specific period (typically at least 2 months prior to the first application, and 3 months prior to subsequent annual renewals).
Wise balances do not satisfy seasoning or official bank-book/bank-letter requirements.
• Using Wise to Transfer Funds: While you can use Wise to transfer the 800,000 THB into a Thai bank account from abroad, the money must actually land in your Thai bank account, be properly documented (such as showing an international transfer / Foreign Exchange Transaction / credit advice), and sit in the Thai bank account for the required duration.
Key Rules for Thai Immigration Financial Proof:
• Thai Bank Account Requirement: The 800,000 THB (or monthly income/combination method) must be held in a Thai commercial bank account in your own name, not in a digital wallet, e-money service, or non-bank multi-currency account like Wise.
• Seasoning Period: For a retirement extension, the 800,000 THB must be seasoned in that Thai bank account for a specific period (typically at least 2 months prior to the first application, and 3 months prior to subsequent annual renewals).
Wise balances do not satisfy seasoning or official bank-book/bank-letter requirements.
• Using Wise to Transfer Funds: While you can use Wise to transfer the 800,000 THB into a Thai bank account from abroad, the money must actually land in your Thai bank account, be properly documented (such as showing an international transfer / Foreign Exchange Transaction / credit advice), and sit in the Thai bank account for the required duration.
Frank-Steven ***********
Greg Alexander I see. Well, I kind of assumed as much. So instead of having the best of both worlds (a digital Thai bank account), the new Thai Wise is the worst of both worlds (forced conversion to THB without really effectively counting / serving as a Thai bank account). Strange, cause as far as I know Wise customers residing in Thailand have the money sit at Bangkok Bank in the background. Well, the Thai way.
Reti*****
Frank-Steven Eichholtz good question. I would like to know this also.
Timothy *******
Get the 90 Non O before you come it's alot easier you can open a bank account no need for an agent
Timothy *******
Get the 90 Non O before you come it's alot easier you can open a bank account no need for an agent
鹰**
Of course, you can. However, approval is not guaranteed.
鹰**
Of course, you can. However, approval is not guaranteed.
Carl *********
Yes I did it with 10 days left
Duncan ********
yes
Terence *********
Yes
Keanu *****
Ask the nearest Thai consulate or immigration office
Ron ********
I done just that, but my biggest mistake was to do it at the Jomtien Immigration Office. The IO that has the worst reputation in Thailand, and it's very well deserved. It was hell on wheels. They tortured me for months.
Ron ********
I done just that, but my biggest mistake was to do it at the Jomtien Immigration Office. The IO that has the worst reputation in Thailand, and it's very well deserved. It was hell on wheels. They tortured me for months.
Graham ******
Ron Cooper You go to the Immigration Office where you are living i.e. where your TM30 is filed
Ron ********
Graham Seal Yes, but a person has the choice as to where to live, correct?
I was stuck in Jomtien recovering from double-knee replacement myself I got the hell outta there as soon as I could.
I was stuck in Jomtien recovering from double-knee replacement myself I got the hell outta there as soon as I could.
Dan ********
Ron Cooper absolutely true.
Don *******
Ron Cooper I've done my extensions there myself for 15 years and it takes me less than an hour in the office. Never had the slightest problem there, unlike the horror stories I have read from other offices (arriving at 7am, queuing for hours, being turned away etc.). I'm not aware that it has a bad reputation either as many other people I know go there and none seem upset about it. I think there's a lot worse.
Curt ********
Don Smith I agree. I did it myself last year. No problem. Just make sure your paperwork is in order.
Keanu *****
Ask the nearest Thai consulate or immigration office
Dan *******
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Rok ********
TheoreticallyYES, practically next to Impossible without a Thai bank account. I went back to UK and sorted it there.
Christian ***********
Hire an agent. Don’t go simply go off the advice of people on Facebook because they will get you confused and some of them may actually derive enjoyment from doing so. Regardless of whether it is simple enough by some estimations to do on your own. If you really don’t know, contact an agent. Save yourself the time and aggravation!
Noel ********
Save all the BS and contact THAI VISA CENTRE - visa agent
Christian ***********
Hire an agent. Don’t go simply off of the advice of people on Facebook because they will get you confused and some of them may actually derive enjoyment from doing so. Regardless of whether it is simple enough by some estimations to do on your own. If you really don’t know, contact an agent. Save yourself the time and aggravation!
Arve ****************
Christian Hawkonsen easy to ask immigration.
Jan *******************
Christian Hawkonsen an agent inside thailand when you went there wih a one way ticket ?
Christian ***********
Jan Rickard Lundberg you’re tagging the wrong person. I’m not the one asking for anyone’s advice here.
Christian ***********
Jan Rickard Lundberg my understanding is you can still consult one and they might be able to figure out options. Beyond that I have no further information.
Christian ***********
Arve Lufc Pedersen why are people giving me advice as though I’m the one that was asking for the advice???
I was giving the person asking for advice some general information.
I was giving the person asking for advice some general information.
Arve ****************
Christian Hawkonsen it's perfectly legal, just go to immigration and apply.
You have to do this atleast 15 days before your previous stay expires.
PS : Not all immigration offices will handle an application, so if at " wrong" office you might have to go to Bkk.
You have to do this atleast 15 days before your previous stay expires.
PS : Not all immigration offices will handle an application, so if at " wrong" office you might have to go to Bkk.
Reti*****
Christian Hawkonsen you are correct. It can be done, but first time he has to use an agent. Otherwise it is impossible.
Arve ****************
RetiredHH I did it, no hassle.
I went to immigration.
I went to immigration.
Christian ***********
RetiredHH I’d say that is sage advice! 
Donnie **********
Thanks for asking. I had the same question. Now we both have the answer..! Woo hoo, Let's Go !!! 👏
SpicyPete ********
Apply for the Non-o 3 month visa... Then you can open a bank account and transfer the 800,000 Baht that is required to qualify for a 1 year visa based on retirement. So get the money put into the bank account and let it season for 2 month that is required.
I did not use a visa agent as I didn't want to spend the money doing something I could do myself... But if you want the process to be easier, get some quotes from visa agents... Make sure they are recognised and reputable agents.
I did not use a visa agent as I didn't want to spend the money doing something I could do myself... But if you want the process to be easier, get some quotes from visa agents... Make sure they are recognised and reputable agents.
Ken ********
@SpicyPete *******
so can't do income..pity you can't show it in Australian bank account..Greg ***********
Ken Jermey for the application to the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement visa in your home country, you can use original income documents.
However, as an Australian citizen, you won't be able to use the income for the application to the 1-year extension, at least not in the first year, because your embassy in Bangkok does not issue any certified income affidavits for Immigration.
For the second-year application you could use a 12-months bank statement over monthly transfers of a minimum of 65,000 THB into your Thai bank account, proven the transfers come from abroad, month for month, not missing a single month. Once issued the 1-year extension, you could withdraw the 800,000 THB.
In this case most Immigrations will also ask you for some kind of proof of the source of the money.
However, as an Australian citizen, you won't be able to use the income for the application to the 1-year extension, at least not in the first year, because your embassy in Bangkok does not issue any certified income affidavits for Immigration.
For the second-year application you could use a 12-months bank statement over monthly transfers of a minimum of 65,000 THB into your Thai bank account, proven the transfers come from abroad, month for month, not missing a single month. Once issued the 1-year extension, you could withdraw the 800,000 THB.
In this case most Immigrations will also ask you for some kind of proof of the source of the money.
John **********
@Ken *******
you can do that if you apply for the 12 month Non-OA visa inside AustraliaSpicyPete ********
Ken Jermey you can do it on income for the following years, but I believe that income must be shown to be deposited every month.... Not being late, the payments must be deposited in each and every calendar month. I would suggest to have the money transfered on the 3rd day of each month, that way if there is an issue, it gives you plenty of time to sort it out before the end of the month.
Paul ***********
Ken Jermey Following years, just follow the rules. Check with IO.
Roberto ************
. And You must pay a lot of money !
Paul ***********
Roberto Montebello No
Noel ********
Save all the BS and contact
@THAI *****************************
Petr *********************
Why?
Nick *******
Petr S. Van Valkenburg helpful 🙄🙄
Petr *********************
Nick White I would like to know, why ?
Tony ********
Yes
Henrik ****
At most Immigrations you can apply for a Non-O visa inside Thailand - IF you meet the financial requirements, which might be very difficult without a bank account.
Frédéric ********
Yes
Alan *****
Probably thru an Agent 😏
โรนัลด์ ***********
Yes. I went to an agent. Made it easy
Monique *****
โรนัลด์ เพรสคอตต์ which person? which location?
Alan *********
โรนัลด์ เพรสคอตต์ me to 👍👍
Alan **********
โรนัลด์ เพรสคอตต์ What did it cost ?
Nigel *********
Yes you can
Trudy *********
Omg why are people confusing this person🤷♀️🤦♀️yes you can mate.
Brandon ************
@Trudy ********
because it's not that simple. Some immigration offices don't allow it at all. And for others you need to meet the requirements to be able to apply, which most people asking this do not.
Marak *******
@Brandon ***********
Whethet its simple for him, or various immigration offices allowing it is not answering the question. He CAN apply.
Drew ****************
Yes for sure
Brandon ************
@Drew ***************
for sure if he doesn't have a bank account? How?
MemorableBl***********
😂C was be
Lynnette *******
Depends if you have a bank account or if you've money to spend in paying an agent. Ideally you get one before arriving so you can open a bank account, then get 12 month extension.
Nigel *******
Yes,Thai Visa Center
Brandon ************
Only if they already have a Thai bank account.
Graham ******
@Brandon ***********
or their Embassy still does the income affidavit ;)Brandon ************
@Graham *****
since he's from Liverpool, I made the assumption I can ignore mentioning thatTerence McManus
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