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Should I apply for a Non-O-A or Non-O-X retirement visa from the UK?

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Hi, looking to apply for a retirement visa from the UK. first visa application for me. would i be better going O-A visa 1st or going for O-X. I do not have a thai bank account yet. any advice on the best route appreciated thanks.
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When applying for a retirement visa in Thailand, you have options like the Non-O-A and Non-O-X visas. The O-A visa allows a year of stay with subsequent extensions and only requires financial proof when extending. In contrast, the O-X is a longer term option providing a 5-year stay but comes with higher financial requirements. Some users suggest starting with an O-A visa since it offers flexibility in setting up your finances, such as opening a Thai bank account, which you'll need for the financial requirements. There are also considerations about health insurance and the possibility of starting with a Non-O visa for shorter stays. Ultimately, the best route depends on your financial situation, required length of stay, and comfort with the application process.
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Brett ******
Brett ******
The O-A only requires the financial component for extension. You can set up you bank account etc in the first year and then leave the country just before it expires and come straight back ( I went to KL for a couple of days) pre covid of course. You get another 12 months stamp. You could then start your financial deposit/deposits to prepare for extension in 12 months. If you wanted you could probably leave again and come back in on a tourist visa and then change to O Visa in country.
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Brett *****
>The O-A only requires the financial component for extension.

Not true. The Non-OA (and Non-OX) also requires health insurance for the extension of stay.

An extension of stay based on retirement requires 800K THB in a Thai bank account seasoned for two months before the extension of stay is issued and 3 months after.
Brett ******
Brett ******
@Benjamin *****
did you read my comment properly? You do it on your second year. I have actually done this. Also I believe some embassies won't issue that letter.
Brett ******
Brett ******
@Benjamin *****
I was only talking about financial not insurance. Insurance goes without saying. You also need the insurance to get the original O-A in your country. You don't need the 800k if you use the 65k method. I've been doing this for a number of yours now. So not wrong
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Brett *****
there are three acceptable proof of finances that are accepted for the one year extension of stay based on being over 50:

1. The banked money/ seasoning method (see above).

2. The 65K a month method.

3. A letter from the embassy saying that a person has a pension of 65K THB a month (the 65K THB method can not be used if the embassy issues this letter).

The problem with the 65K THB method is that it requires 12 months of 65K THB deposits before the extension of stay based on retirement is granted. Either a person enters on a Non-OA visa, opens a bank account, and starts depositing the money for 12 months OR they use the 800K THB banked money to get the one year extension of stay based on retirement, deposit the 12 months of 65K THB in, and then use that to meet the proof of finances.
Mark *******
Mark *******
Can you apply for a non imm from the UK? What's the difference between OA & O?
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Mark ******
non-IMM is any visa that allows a person to enter Thailand that does not allow a pathway to citizenship (Non-O, Non-B, Non-F, etcโ€ฆ). All consulates sell non-immigration visas.

A non-immigration O visa is for โ€œotherโ€ reasons, and may include marriage, volunteering, raising half-Thai children, and being over 50 years old (among other reasons). A Non-o visa is single entry and allows a person to stay for 90 days.

A non-OA visa is a special type of multiple entry visa for people who are over 50 years old. This visa allows a person to stay for one year on each entry.
Jonathan *****
Jonathan *****
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@Mark ******
had a look and there does appear to be a non immig o visa. Will see what hapoens
Marty *********
Marty *********
@Mark ******
An OA is a one year visa. An O is a 90 day visa. Both can be extended 1 year at a time.
Ken ******
Ken ******
avoid OX or OA which requires expensive health insurance every year you renew visa, and opt for O visa Insurance requirement for OA going up again very soon from
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Jonathan *****
Jonathan *****
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@Ken *****
thanks
Jonathan *****
Jonathan *****
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Thanks for all the replies. Going to take a while to digest. Awesome thanjs again. Ill update with what i decide ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘
Jonathan *****
Jonathan *****
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Ok sounds like non imm o visa then 1 year extension good option. Ill have a look on the website. Thanks again everyone for your advise
John ********
John ********
Non imm O 3 month then retirement extension
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
The question is: "the best route" to what?

Just to be able to stay in Thailand? Or traveling Thailand often? Or how to open a Thai bank account? etc, etc..

"Being retired in Thailand" or original post is too vague, for that only you can find the way based on your priority and preference on many conditions...
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
and to add, the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa and its extension to a 1-year permit of stay comes without the obligation for a health insurance
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
the return flight is only of interest for some of the airlines upon check-in. Thai Immigration don't bother when your return flight is. All they want to see is that you don't go into "overstay"
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Gregor *********
just gotta hope I can get a 30 day extension because I already booked the return flight.
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Gregor *********
the Embassy in Canberra requires health insurance to apply for Visa O 90 days......

3.6 Health Insurance

A certificate of health insurance issued by Thai insurance companies covering the entire period of stay in Thailand containing the detail of coverage as follows; In-house patients of not less than THB 400,000/policy year, as for out-patients, not less than THB 40,000/policy year. More information can be found on
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A photo of medical insurance policy (in English) which expressly covers treatment and medical expenses in relation to COVID-19, with minimum coverage of 100,000 USD. The insurance must cover the total duration of stay in Thailand.
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Bernie ******
you are confusing two things: the 90 days visa requires a health insurance. However the 1-year extension of stay permit out of a Non-Imm-O visa does not require a health insurance. The stay permit is not a visa
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Bernie ******
both visa, the O/A and the O, are for reason "retirement/over 50 years old"
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Gregor *********
thought that was OA.
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Bernie ******
the Non-Imm-O visa can be applied for being over 50/retirement. If you only wish to stay for 90 days, the single entry Tourist Visa is the cheaper option with less requirements
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Gregor *********
but isn't non-imm- O visa only if you have a Thai wife or kids? I just want a 90 day visa. It looks like my best option is 60 day Tourist visa then a 30 day extension. The visa O or special Tourist visa 90 day both requires health insurance and covid insurance up to $
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Gregor **********
Gregor **********
. .and there also is the 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O visa for those over 50 or retired. It requires a financial proof and can be extended to a 1-year permit of stay inside Thailand, if one can meet the financial requirements (either 800,000 THB on a bank account in you sole name or proof of 12 months of consecutive transfers of a minimum of 65,000 THB to your Thai bank account). Upon entering you should open up a Thai bank account and transfer the 800,000 THB as soon as possible, because when applying for the 1-year permit of stay, the money needs to be seasoned for 2 months. As you are given 90 days admitted stay when entering, the timeline is doable
Marty *********
Marty *********
You should also consider getting a non-immigrant O visa. I am not sure if you can get it in your home country but you can come as a tourist and get a non-O inside Thailand and then 90 days later apply for a 1 year extension. You will have to open a Thai bank account as soon as you get here to deposit the 800,000 baht. The 1 year extension is the same extension that those of us with an OA get each year. The non-O does not have an insurance requirement.
Martin *************
Martin *************
@Marty ********
Good adviceโ€ฆ๐Ÿ‘
Jonathan *****
Jonathan *****
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@Marty ********
thanks for the detailed info
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Marty ********
the Embassy in Canberra requires the health insurance to apply for Visa O 90 days.......

3.6 Health Insurance

A certificate of health insurance issued by Thai insurance companies covering the entire period of stay in Thailand containing the detail of coverage as follows; In-house patients of not less than THB 400,000/policy year, as for out-patients, not less than THB 40,000/policy year. More information can be found on
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A photo of medical insurance policy (in English) which expressly covers treatment and medical expenses in relation to COVID-19, with minimum coverage of 100,000 USD. The insurance must cover the total duration of stay in Thailand.
Marty *********
Marty *********
@Bernie ******
Getting a visa is one thing. Extending that visa year to year does not require insurance.
Marty *********
Marty *********
@Bernie ******
Yes. For a non-O visa. For an OA or OX you will need insurance every year with each extension.
Marty *********
Marty *********
Bernie *******
Bernie *******
@Marty ********
so I only need to get the health insurance for a visa in Australia then after that just get extensions from immigration in Thailand.
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
The O-A will give you time to fully assess whether you REALLY want to retire here, and deal with the "first-time anxiousness" of obtaining a stay extension for every year thereafter. But is always better to get used to the systems here as a younger "OLDIE".
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
A Non-OA visa is a multiple entry visa that is valid for one year, cost 150 British Pounds, and requires having 800K THB in a foreign bank account in local currency.

A Non-OX visa is a multiple entry visa that's valid for 5 years, cost 300 British pounds, and requires having 3M THB in a foreign bank account in local currency. The Non-OX visa is seldom acquired though, and you should contact the Thai Embassy in London for more information about what the specific requirements are.

Both the Non-OA and Non-OX require medical insurance. Both also require a criminal report from your country's government.

When either visa expires, a person can get a one year extension of stay based on being over 50 at the immigration office. It will require 800K THB in a Thai Bank account seasoned for two months before you apply for the visa, and health insurance.

Which one of two visas are "best"? Honestly, I don't know. You'd have to weigh the cost and the financial requirements.

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