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What visa options are available for a 58-year-old expat planning to marry a Thai citizen in Thailand?

Lee *********
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I'm 58 in October what visa can a apply for to live in Thailand I plan to marry my Thai girlfriend next September
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The discussion detailed the best visa options for a 58-year-old American looking to live in Thailand and marry his Thai girlfriend. The most recommended options were the NON-O Retirement Visa, which allows individuals over 50 to apply with a minimum financial requirement, and the Marriage Visa, which requires proof of a marriage and also has financial prerequisites. Various community members shared their experiences, highlighting that the Retirement Visa usually entails less paperwork compared to the Marriage Visa, which can be more complex and contingent on the marriage. Additionally, concerns were raised about marrying a Thai woman, with several commenters advising cautious financial management.
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Steve ***********
Steve ***********
Married in September

Birthday in October, so when are you moving?
Ray ******
Ray ******
If a Thai works in any government field, they do get a pension. My partner will get this when she retires.
ณัฏฐ์พัชร **********
ณัฏฐ์พัชร **********
Retirement or marriage visa
Birgit **********
Birgit **********
She is 22
Anders *********
Anders *********
NON - O married with Thai
Nick **********
Nick **********
Cheaper to rent wife than to own.
Fizul *********
Fizul *********
Nick Tiliakos Do the rental wife cook and clean?. Do laundry?
Nick **********
Nick **********
Fizul Bacchus Cheaper to eat out.
Peter *******
Peter *******
🙈 bro bro bro . Be very careful I know not every thai is like it . But don't buy any assets in Thailand . Hide them / rent them in your own country and take the income from it to live in Thailand . So so May horror stories
Tony ********
Tony ********
If your married the married visa
Moss ********
Moss ********
You have many options so I won't tell you which is best. I am on a DTV which is a good five year option and pretty low cost. However, finances are harder since you cannot open a Thai bank account.
Nigel *********
Nigel *********
Why don't you ask her? She's Thai right?
George **************
George **************
DONT MARRY HER

SPREAD YOUER SELF AROUND

THANK ME LATER 😉
Gregg *************
Gregg *************
Don’t do that
Gregory ********
Gregory ********
Dont know about the marrying ,but retiremen visa thecway to go
Jake *****
Jake *****
I also married to Thai but keep Non-O retirement for hassle-free
Shane ********
Shane ********
Non-O retirement visa from 50yo. with 800k baht, untouched, in a Thai bank account. Marriage visa is also an option (half the bank funds I think) but a lot more paperwork.
Darryll ****************
Darryll ****************
Shane Foster and alot more expensive!
Shane ********
Shane ********
Darryll Warnford-Davis Yeah, it "seems" cheaper coz you only need 400k (I think) in the bank, but ends up costing more. The reason I was looking into it was because I can't even do volunteer work on retirement visa (again; I think) but marriage visa "should" let me do my mental health/ drug & alcohol volunteer work. Can't afford either option right now, but will look into it more in a few years
Tommy **********
Tommy **********
Go to You Tube/ search videos for Moving to Thailand. Look for videos by Cal he tells you everything you will need to know!
Rich ************
Rich ************
Is the LTR visa better???
Michael *************
Michael *************
LTR
Bonnie *********
Bonnie *********
Have you looked at the official Thai Embassy website for your country? Start there.
Scooter *****
Scooter *****
Don’t do it
Dean ************
Dean ************
I reckon buy the Thai elite. Way better than retirement visa without any onus on you to maintain 800k in the account. And it offers your full independence with perks
Abey ******
Abey ******
Time to wake up.
David ************
David ************
Spouse visa,only need 40k per month not 65k,and 400k not 800k per year to renew your visa,it’s a no brainer..I talk from experience
Maria *************
Maria *************
Are you retired by that age, get a non-o retired before you get here, then open a bank account for your THB 800,000 for extension based on retirement, that is the best route for you if you are retired.
Fizul *********
Fizul *********
Maria Fredriksson So the application for retired visa has to be done in your country? Then go to Thailand to open the 800,000 baht account?
Kou ******
Kou ******
Running
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
There loads marriage visa dvt visa and retirement visa.
Mark *********
Mark *********
Don't bring sand to the beach.Thhere are plenty of women to choose from.
Barney ********
Barney ********
Yeah dont get the married one, it costs too much ))
Bill *********
Bill *********
Consider a retirement visa for more freedom and independence. Absolutely do NOT get a marriage Visa. After the marriage has run its course your longevity in Thailand would otherwise be dependent on a moody female. Not a pleasant situation to be in.
Gústaf *********
Gústaf *********
You must come to Thailand with a Non O visa then you can ask here for a marriage or retirement visa.
Kenneth ************
Kenneth ************
STAY SINGLE , KEEP YOUR FREEDOM
Bill *********
Bill *********
Kenneth Dongphuyao That's the best advice
Kenneth ************
Kenneth ************
90 DAY NON -O- IMMIGRANT BASED ON RETIREMENT
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
Retirement visa - less hoops to jump through - if you get marriage visa its alot more paperwork and your wife has to be present. If marriage ends so does your visa
Mark *********
Mark *********
Been here 4 years living my Thai GF. I can’t justify material visa is such a pain in the ass
Seng **********
Seng **********
good luck all the best
Alan ********
Alan ********
Do retirement and don’t move on to Thai wife to much paperwork every year. I made that mistake going back to retirement next year.
Ian ********
Ian ********
People don’t come on here asking for life advice just visa advice
John *******
John *******
Ian Carman
Eileen ***********
Eileen ***********
well you are pretty old. whats the age difference.
169****
169****
as a 30 young kid, I m worried about your marriage more than the visa decision. 😂
Marcus *******
Marcus *******
169adam Most Thai marriages last much longer than western marriages. I have been with my wife for 22 years. I probably know 40 or 50 Thai /English couples abd I only know of 2 devorces. Some of them have big age differences and the marriage works.
Allan ********
Allan ********
Marcus Baker I know a considerable number of Thai British marriages. Around 80% have ended in divorce.

The actual statistics would be more reliable than based on personal acquaintances
Fizul *********
Fizul *********
Allan Deacon I think those divorces happen in UK. Better statistic if the married couple stay in Thailand. Don't you agree,
Petr *********************
Petr *********************
Bring her to your country, so she can qualify for retirement benefits and she will understand how we work for retirement, in Thailand they don't have government pension!!!
Nick **********
Nick **********
Petr S. Van Valkenburg Trump's not letting Thai in for resident Visa right now.

Only tourism.
Petr *********************
Petr *********************
Nick Tiliakos you mean immigrant visa, we will see, our friend got interview in May , they got married 2 years ago , when I got married my wife had immigrant visa in 10 months, that was in 2018, Trump's first term , just start processing your paperworks ASAP, and after Trump is removed , you are not too much far behind in line to get processed !
Thai *****
Thai *****
Petr S. Van Valkenburg They do. It's very small.
Petr *********************
Petr *********************
Thai Jag 600 baht is a joke, not based on contribution as in every civilized country!!!!
Ron ********
Ron ********
Yes
Mick ********
Mick ********
Non O retirement, marriage visa puts her in control. Can be a big mistake as I. All things you want to have as much control as possible.
RubyAl*******
RubyAl*******
Village wedding or getting the certificate??
Brian *******
Brian *******
A good Thai girl will treat you like gold. Far better than almost any US lady. Beware of city girls and bar girls though. Some can run you through the mill just the same as US bar girls. Good luck.
Claude **********
Claude **********
I am maried to a thai, and had all kin of visa, the las time I had a 90 visa from my country, then once in thailand got a 1 year visa single entry, then went for a bank account, then retirement visa 1900Bath, need to put 800K Bath in bank for 3 month or a proof of revenu to cover, then one year later maried visa,1900 Bath, only need 400k Bath in bank, in both case you have to present yourself every 90 day to imigration free of charges,

Done
Fizul *********
Fizul *********
Claude Laplante Won't the bank need to see the retirement visa in order for you to open the account?
Claude **********
Claude **********
Fizul Bacchus one year visa stamped in your passport is enough for K Bank, and Bankok Bank, always depend where you are, they're not easy
Claude **********
Claude **********
Don't forget to get a visa everytime after if you leave the country 1000 BHT, for reentry, single or multiples entry multiple I'm not sure how much
Gardar ***************************
Gardar ***************************
Claude Laplante 3800 baht for multi 😅
Brian *******
Brian *******
Retirement
SupportiveC***********
SupportiveC***********
Not Just Thais ! Any Asian Woman ! As Long As Your In Thailand ALL YOU WILL EVER BE IS A FOREIGNER ! AND You Will Place 7th In Importance To Her & Her Family After The Dog. BUT If It Makes You Feel Any Better "You'll Get To Pay For Everything. EVERYTHING !
Kevin **********
Kevin **********
SupportiveCapybara4727 Not me, I married into a rich Thai family. My wife of 10 years built our 2 houses in Thailand with her own money and paid more than her fair share all along the way.
Andy *********
Andy *********
My hero 👍
Christian ********
Christian ********
@Kevin *********
also not me. My thai wife is a dollar millionär and she paid for my house and all my cars. i do not have to pay anything. I am 30 years older but she like old man.
Fizul *********
Fizul *********
Christian Vogler You hit the jackpot. Congrats.
SupportiveC***********
SupportiveC***********
@Kevin *********
Consider Yourself Lucky Kevin
Kevin **********
Kevin **********
SupportiveCapybara4727 I do, on several levels. Older farangs come to Thailand waving their wallet around to capture a pretty Thai princess 30 years their junior. So they hook up with a pro and tries to make her his exclusive. A pretty village Thai daughter is a financial asset to her family. She not only has to shelter and feed herself, she needs to support her aging parents and siblings who might only make $400 US a month. Figure it out moron. If you want her exclusive you need to make up the money she and her family are missing out on.
Hugh ***********
Hugh ***********
SupportiveCapybara4727 sounds like you got burned
ያህ ****
ያህ ****
No thats Sound Advice!!!!
Christian ********
Christian ********
Hugh Slesinger he dont realy have to be burned. with the storys you here this is more than common in Thailand. You get a women when you pay.
ያህ ****
ያህ ****
They are N love with the 💰💰💰💰

Not the Man whos providing it!!!!

#Facts
Tom *******
Tom *******
Watch out for the “ sin sod “ for her parents

If you let her know your bank balance that is fatal
โฮเซ่ *******
โฮเซ่ *******
Simon Edhouse

Retirement Visa.. way best option. Sorry for speaking out of turn.. BUT be very very careful about "getting married to your Thai girl friend".. I have heard so so so many stories about the negative outcomes that usually arise from this situation.

Maintaining tight control of your finances and absolutely everything, involving all living arrangements and innevitable nexus with prospective inlaws, is a veritable, potential mine field.

Stay independent totally.. be prudent and extremely cautious.

Good luck.👍👍👍👍👍
โฮเซ่ *******
โฮเซ่ *******
Being married to a Thai citizen allows you to apply for a Non-Immigrant Visa (O) (Marriage/Family), ideal for long-term residency. This visa is initially issued for 90 days, extendable for up to one year (12 months) at the immigration office within Thailand.

Key points about the Marriage Visa (Non-O):

Financial Requirements: For a one-year extension, you must demonstrate a monthly income of at least approximately 40,000 THB or have

400,000 THB in a Thai bank account for at least two months prior to the application.

Documentation: You will need your passport, Thai marriage certificate, photos of the couple together, and your spouse's identity documents.

Process: It is usually obtained first at a Thai embassy abroad and then extended there.

Benefits: It allows you to live with your spouse and, if you meet the requirements, provides access to naturalization or permanent residency.
Simon *********
Simon *********
Retirement Visa.. way best option. Sorry for speaking out of turn.. BUT be very very careful about "getting married to your Thai girl friend".. I have heard so so so many stories about the negative outcomes that usually arise from this situation.

Maintaining tight control of your finances and absolutely everything, involving all living arrangements and innevitable nexus with prospective inlaws, is a veritable, potential mine field.

Stay independent totally.. be prudent and extremely cautious.

Good luck.
Andy *******
Andy *******
Simon *********
Simon *********
Andy Duray "Based"?
Frankie *****
Frankie *****
@Simon ********
seriously .. all this talk about Thai girls want $$. Men are to care , support your women with finances, love and understanding. Too many selfish and poor guys coming to Thailand .. sigh
Michael ******
Michael ******
@Simon ********
you're should right, but not be marrying anyone you can't trust with your money. I've been married 4 times, including my current thai wife, and trusted all of them in my bank accounts. My thai wife, who is a professional with a masters degree, quite her job to be with me and have flexibility to travel. Traveling is our love.
Paul ***************
Paul ***************
@Simon ********
people have to be on the ball wherever they have a relationship/ marriage this is not just specific to Thailand . However cause of the type of people it attracts ( easy prey ) the short roller coaster stories with a nasty outcome tend to overshadow the good stories .
Simon *********
Simon *********
Paul van Rijswijk true.. and sometimes "love is blind".. but deep cultural differences, surface down the track and create unfoseen problems.
Doug *******
Doug *******
@Simon ********
This is a group based upon giving pertinent advice, which in this case was an inquiry about which visa to obtain. Maybe you missed that part. 🤷
Simon *********
Simon *********
Doug Olson i advised a retirement visa.. my other comments were within decent boundaries IMHO.
Doug *******
Doug *******
@Simon ********
After reconsideration I guess you’re right. I’m just over sensitive to hearing foreign men always implying that Thai women only want your money. Maybe it’s mostly accurate so your warning can’t hurt anything. 🤷
David ********
David ********
@Simon ********
you gave good advice and its all related imo. We are all navigating the same murky waters and its good to be reminded of the things that can sink us. 👍
Jim *********
Jim *********
@Simon ********
I've been with my Thai wife for 17 years now. But a lot of couples seem to enter into a business relationship rather than a loving relationship here. We have fun together and laugh at life everyday. No kids helps! She has a US Green Card and I have a Thai retirement visa and we have houses in both countries
Kevin **********
Kevin **********
Jim McGowan Same Same
Petr *********************
Petr *********************
Jim McGowan we did the same , important is retirement benefits for her , we are married for 8 years living in the U.S., she understand that dollars are earned, she has her own business and we work together for retirement!!!
Simon *********
Simon *********
Jim McGowan sounds like you got it right.. well done.
Galenus ******
Galenus ******
Google is your friend!!!👍
Ron **********
Ron **********
Stay for awhile and then make your mind up what you want to do
Graham ******
Graham ******
Ron Williams if he's marrying in Sept I think he's ticked that box
Vince *********
Vince *********
STUPID DECISION, NAIL of YOUR GRAVE MAN.
Tony ********
Tony ********
Vince de Nys hilarious your obviously the type that gets upset at people who have something you dont 🤣🤣🤣
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Vince de Nys you know nothing about his relationship or the person he plans to marry. Stop judging others on your bad decisions.
Ian ********
Ian ********
Vince de Nys but why do people who can only ever own a dingy condo criticize others who live in 4 bed detached house etc
Gardar ***************************
Gardar ***************************
Way less paperwork with non-o based on retirement.

Also like if you start on visa extempt, then you need to all kind of stuff before you guys can marry and open bank etc

But if you start with non-o based on retirement that you can apply from your own country and open your bank account. Then walk down to your local immigration and ask requirements for one year extension and repeat that to end of time.
Kenneth ************
Kenneth ************
Gardar Mar Hreindal Svavarsson LESS PAPERWORK IS CORRECT
Ali *******
Ali *******
Retirement Visa is best for you
Michael ********
Michael ********
Retirement visa, just be over 50 and have some money in the bank
Norma ********
Norma ********
Michael Garner yes, that’s the best one
Michael *******
Michael *******
Non O Visa…look it up Thai Immigration website. Made same move 2 years ago….
Reiner ************
Reiner ************
Easy … a retired visa . Non O…from 50 onwards…

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