What type of visa should I apply for to live in Thailand with my Thai girlfriend and how can I manage my UK pension and bank account requirements?

Oct 7, 2024
2 months ago
Howard *******
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Hi,

I am confused as to what visa to apply for. Various agents have told me different one's and quoted me different prices. I wish to live in Thailand with my Thai girlfriend who owns her own house in Udon Thani but visit England at least 4 times per annum. I have listed below my current status.

UK citizen

Aged 72

Owns home in UK

£5000 in the bank

£1900 per month pension

Can anyone recommend a good, English speaking agent?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A UK citizen, aged 72, is seeking advice on the appropriate visa to apply for in order to live in Thailand with his girlfriend while being able to visit England multiple times a year. There is confusion among agents regarding the correct type of visa and financial requirements, with mentions of a Non-O visa for retirement and the substantial funds required for application. Community responses highlight the need for sufficient bank balance and monthly income to qualify for a retirement visa, as well as potential pitfalls when using agents for the application process.
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Henrik *****
Never listen to agents, they will only make money for themselves, adding to korruption.

Take control of your life, and apply your self, any way you have to supply the same documents to an agent, then itks better to hand them in yourself.
SJ *******
Mate dont tell people about your UK assets keep them at arms length from everything Thai especially your love you long time.

Never never include her in your will, it is dangerous if you don’t believe me google farangs falling of buildings .
Gary **********
You can use your pension for retirement visa you need 65 k Thai bht per month you get that and more so it's a easy process
Nick ************
@Gary *********
but it takes 12 months during which time he needs extension based on banked money.
Kev *********
@Gary *********
not so Gary. It will be reduced by UK tax and affected by exchange rates.
Gary **********
Pete *******
@Gary *********
not for the initial visa.
Gary **********
Christopher *************
Talk to the Thai visacentre
Rob **********
Do it yourself and save your money, agents are not needed.
Steve *********
If you limit your visits to 90 days at a time you may be able to do it on Visa exemptions and extensions. Supposedly no restriction on how many times you enter by air each year.
Neale *********
Do you need a visa if you're going to the UK 4x a year?
David *******
1. Get a Non O ‘for Retirement’ from the Thai Embassy in London online, assuming you are still in the U.K. This gives you 90 days.

2. You will need to use an agent for the 12-month Extension in Thailand as you don’t have the 800k baht to put into a Thai bank account. I can recommend one in Pattaya but not in Udon.

3. If you are willing to send at least
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baht from the uk to Thailand each month then you can use this method for future Extensions but will need an agent for at least one more year. You might find it easier to just use one anyway.

4. You can get a Multiple Re-Entry Permit with your Extension each year which will allow you to travel to the U.K. and back as often as you like.
John **********
@David ******
his problem will be using an agent to circumvent the requirement to put the 800k baht in the bank which means there's a distinct possibility he will be stuck using agents every year going forward
Kev *********
@John *********
£1900/ month (less UK tax) Annual gross income £21.4k approx - £12.6k* personal tax free = £9k (- tax 20% = £7.2k + £12.6k* = £19.8k/annum ÷ 12 = £1.6k/month. £1.6k x 40(allow for gbp to drop) = 62,000baht per month. Not enough. Correct my math if I've made any mistakes as doing the sums without any calculator or pen to paper.
David *******
@John *********
that is frequently said on here but I’ve yet to hear any first hand reports from someone who has actually been refused when switching from an agent to doing it themselves.
Brandon ************
@David ******
they would absolutely be refused for one of two reasons.

1) their previous stamp is from some immigration office in the middle of nowhere, hundreds of kilometers from where they live, and that office is known as one that agents take their customer's passports to get sketchy extensions. They will straight up be told by the immigration office that they cannot get their extension their and will also likely be told to use an agent again.

2) as part of using an agent they did not have the required funds in their Thai bank account. The requirements for an extension based on retirement are that you need to keep the 800,000 in your account for 3 full months after receiving the extension, cannot drop below 400,000 ever, and must be back at 800,000 for 2 full months before they apply for their new extension. As part of their extension application they must show 12 months of bank statements that show they met this requirement for last year's extension. If they used an agent to bypass that requirement, they won't be able to show that they met the requirements and they will be denied a new extension for failure to meet last year's requirements.

If your stamp is from your local office and you can show that you've had the required funds through the previous year then you should be okay to get your extension on your own.
David *******
@Brandon ***********
Yes, you’ve made similar posts several times at least. I repeat, I’ve yet to see any first hand accounts of anyone this has happened to.

Just to be clear, I am not saying there won’t be problems and I’m not recommending that people use agents. However, in 37 years of going to Thailand I am well aware that there are ways around most ‘problems’.
John **********
@David ******
yes. The way around the problem is to keep using an agent
Brandon ************
@David ******
just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been posted about many times. But most people that start with agents don't want to stop regardless. And there's nothing theoretical about what I've posted. Many posts of people accidentally dropping their account below 400,000 and bringing it back up in the same day and they still got denied their extension and had to start over. I don't know why you think showing 0 in your bank account after using an agent would be any different than 399,950.
Steve *******
@David ******
The OP wont get the Non Imm O in the UK with only £5k in the bank
David *******
@Steve ******
NON-IMMIGRANT VISA TYPE O Retirement (Single entry)

Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with state pension who wishes to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days)

Biodata page of Passport or Travel Document

Photograph taken within the last six months

- If the photograph does not reflect your current appearance you may be refused to enter the Kingdom of Thailand.

Document indicating current location

- Applicant’s local utility bills (shows your name and address) e.g. electricity bill/ gas / mobile phone / rental agreement.

Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB (£1,500) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (£18,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings

- Applicant’s recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address (Screenshots are not accepted). For monthly income of last 3 months no less than £1,500/ month.
Steve *******
@David ******
Ok, I thought RTE London only accepted £18k for the Non Imm O. You learn something new every day!
David *******
@Steve ******
They have changed the rules fairly recently, though a pension was always accepted. When I got it about 3 years ago I just needed to show £10k in my account for 3 months and, at that time, they just said getting a State pension was enough (which I wasn’t ).
David *******
@Steve ******
he has a largish pension and he obviously gets the State Pension. That’s enough. It’s pension OR bank balance.
Graham ******
@Lindsey *********
but 800k is needed for the first year as the British Embassy no longer does the income affidavit
Kev *********
@Graham *****
for the first year I believe proof of savings in UK bank equal to 800,000 baht is accepted.
Graham ******
@Kev ********
for a Non-OA yes but not for an in country extension
Kev *********
Definitely avoid OA because of health insurance. I've recently crossed into Cambodia without re-entry to nullify my OA visa. I got 60 days visa exempt then after 2 weeks applied for in country O extension. Passport stamped for additional 90 days. Towards the end of the 90 days I apply for 1 year based on retirement. I have to say Rayong Immigration were so helpful. No agents or under the table needed. I'll admit though, after everything was done I gave the 2 helpful officers some Ferrero Rochas and the general office staff a tin of biscuits for coffee break! 😁
Kev *********
@Graham *****
yes right Graham
Lindsey **********
@Graham *****
forgive me

I did not know that new rule

Thank you
Declan **********
@Lindsey *********
it's not a new rule, it's been a rule for a long time and most embassies stopped giving affidavits for income a couples years back.
Ken ***********
@Declan *********
a decade back
Pete *******
You need £18,280 in the bank to apply for a retirement visa. Alternatively you could arrive visa exempt and contact a local agent who for a fee will facilitate the financial requirement.
Andy **********
Not enough money in the bank for retirement visa.
Lindsey **********
@Andy *********
his pension enough

I know somebody to help
@Yatawee *********
My daughter
Andy **********
@Lindsey *********
Well, it might meet the monthly requirement, but as mentioned, he needs 800k in the bank, and best not use a corrupt agency. Might not be much of a life if spending £5000 a year, and up, on flights back to the UK.
Graham ******
@Lindsey *********
But the British Embassy no longer do the income affidavit so 800k will be needed for the first year in country
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