In order to obtain Thai citizenship, one must take a written and spoken test in the Thai language????
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To obtain Thai citizenship, applicants must demonstrate proficiency in the Thai language, both spoken and written, and must learn to sing the national anthem. Permanent residency for at least five years is typically required, along with a points-based system considering factors like education and age. However, if married to a Thai citizen, requirements are less stringent. There are varying opinions on the difficulty of qualifying for citizenship versus permanent residency, with some users arguing it's easier and more beneficial to pursue citizenship, while others suggest aiming for permanent residency due to the challenges in language requirements and residency criteria.
Alex ********
Fair enough
Gareth *******
No problem for myself,I now have a few Thai children,We can buy land in there name,My eldest son is 23.,And Carrie's our family name.
When did a coup ever take away someone's right to own land? You sound like a tinfoil hat or something. I'm no fan of the current administration, but they've done nothing of the sort you claim.
if the Government wants your land they just take it back with a bulldozer & the army … read up about Sirindhorn Dam & the people swept aside there, they are still protesting till this day on deaf ears … good luck with your rights in Thailand
So you'd prefer the annual immigration run around, no land ownership rights, reporting requirements that foreigners have over becoming a Thai citizen? Not that it's easy to qualify of course, but your reasoning is dumb. I think anyone who can become Thai and intends to live in the country and/or wants to own land, have unrestricted working rights should become Thai.
not necessarily unwise for some people in certain circumstances, it just depends what you may lose, so therefore it is wise to look before you leap ... is that 'un vague' enough ?
if you have to forfeit your own country's citizenship, that being a first world country, to just have Thai citizenship in my view would be an unwise choice
you don't surely? My son has dual citizenship in usa, my sister dual citizenship in Australia. So not sure why you'd "just have thai" citizenship, which is why I asked what you meant.
you don't durrly ? is that American slang of some kind ? ... sometimes you can only hold one citizenship depending on which country you are from, do you understand ?
typo corrected. Obviously not American slang as I'm British. Your comment about citizenship was so vague it was necessary to ask you to clarify. So. . Its not necessarily unwise to be a thai citizen.
Benjamin Hart an American who is a lawyer and manager of Integrity Legal in Bangkok was naturalized into Thai citizenship. He is pleased with the accomplishment per his youtube videos.
Thai citizenship group this group will give you accurate answers, lots incorrect above.
Key point on your question is are you married to a Thai?
If yes then no need to have PR, read, write or sing. Some conversational Thai will be expected but not fluency and your wife can join meeting and assist you on Thai bits.
If not married then you will need PR which is harder than citizenship to apply for, plus higher language requirements including singing the anthem.
John **********
Best to aim for permanent residence.
Johnny ******
Ah, I see. It does seem a bit unfair that retired folks can't get PR, especially those married to locals.
No, better to become a Thai citizen. Easier process and more advantages. PR is extremely difficult to qualify for and even if you get it, you still need a work permit to work and are still subject to dual pricing and still can't own land
Citizenship is obviously easier if married, in any country. Not sure why you recommend going for PR rather than Citizenship, as if he is not married, he has to get PR first. If married, Citizenship is the easier, cheaper, better option by far.
yea. I'm not married to a Thai but can't get PR either as I'm on a retirement visa. I noticed the poster wasn't even in Thailand according to his profile and assumed he wasn't married to a Thai because of his location/work
For the vast majority of foreigners it’s far too high a bar,most farangs barely have any Thai at all after years here..
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David ********
According to a website :
It is compulsory that you know how to speak and write in Thai
You must know how to recite the Thai National Anthem
But there is far more than this. You have to have permanent residence for at least 5 years (there are limited permanent resident slots). They have a points system - for example to get maximum points for education you need a PhD, to get maximum points for age you have to be between 40 and 50, etc. I just an internet search, "how to obtain Thai citizenship"
PR status is not required if you're married to a Thai. Can become eligible to apply after 3 years on a non immigrant visa with work permit earning a minimum of 40K per month, every month