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What are the requirements and pros and cons of a permanent resident visa in Thailand?
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May 7, 2018
8 years ago
Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERWhat are the requirements for a permanent resident visa? Pros and cons? TIA
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The post discusses the requirements for obtaining a permanent resident visa (PR) in Thailand, highlighting the need for unbroken visa extensions, potential language proficiency tests, and relevant criteria such as salary, marriage, and tax payments. It mentions FAQs about the process and shares links to additional resources, including discussions from the Thai Visa Forum.
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Tod *********
Unfortunately this isn't thai visa related enough :/ There are MOUNTAINZ of information available on the inter-web about the permanent residency process to thailand, what the requirements are, how it's done, etc.
Good Luck to the O/P in their endeavors. (y)
Good Luck to the O/P in their endeavors. (y)
Tod *********
I would suggest anyone interested in getting P/R read this thread. I usually don't recommend the Thai Visa Forum, BUT this thread is very very useful for people on the road to permanent residency
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The big thing for P/R or Thai citizenship is the "unbroken" extensions of stays. That means you can't be on a visa where you leave and come back every 90 days, you can't have been on one extension, canceled it and gotten a new visa and extension. You have to have the extensions year after year unbroken. Unless I'm mistaken it's 3 years for P/R and 5 years for thai citizenship
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@Martin *********
and I'm saying no to my knowledge it is not.Martin ***********
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Yeah, I got that. I'm asking if I'm already married with 2 kids is that enough for a PR?Tod *********
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you can do it if you're not married too.Martin ***********
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It's Marriage AND work?Tod *********
Martin Vaistein nope, all the marriage to a thai does is lower the cost from about 191,000 down to 91,000.
Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
With your permission, one last question for now :) Can you get a PR based only on marriage to a Thai and having two kids WITHOUT the work and salary part? or is it Marriage AND work?Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
Excellent. You are very reassuring. Thank you :)Tod *********
@Mar***
You need to go talk to the people at the immigration office you use and they'll give you the hand out or send you to the office that handles the applications. Remember they don't accept applications for permanent residence until the last month of the year so you have a lot of time to get your stuff together.
Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
Thanks for the info. Another small question :) In the salary part, I had a salary of 50K but I think I read that the salary should be 80K and above. what is the correct information?Tod *********
Colin, there are 100 P/R openings alloted per country per year. Western countries NEVER ever hit that number. I think last year the UK and the US had under 20 each or something like that.
It's China, India, etc that max out. Now whether they do a draw for those countries with more than 100 applicants I don't know but a westerner would never have to worry about that.
It's China, India, etc that max out. Now whether they do a draw for those countries with more than 100 applicants I don't know but a westerner would never have to worry about that.
Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you for the info
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ORIGINAL POSTERThe process includes an oral Thai profciency test. That's a no go for me and explains why so little farang have a permanent resident. Any advice on that? After 13 years in Thailand it feels unfair and ridiculous :(
Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Gareth *********
Just because I didn't manage to pick up the local language it should go against me?Daniel ************
@Tod ********
thats what i mentioned before - language skills is not a must if you fulfil the other things.Gareth **********
After 13 years you are not proficient inthe Thai? And you can think its unfair? Curious
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@Dan***
The singing that 32 second ditty that comes on at 8 and 6 and the royal song are not required at all for thai citizenship. Neither is speaking more than retard 2-word-tourist-thai. The most points you can get for thai language is 15 and most people hit the miminum required points without even needing any from the thai language area.Steve *******
@Martin *********
I dont know all the 'ins and outs' of Citizenship. Suffice to say it's extremely difficult and a tad more difficult than singing the National Anthem and having 3 years of extentions of stay.Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Daniel ***********
Excellent. I started inquiring about this just 3 hours ago, so I'm just making sure instead of making (wrong) assumptions :)Daniel ************
@Martin *********
you need 3 years of consecutive extension ...Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Steve ******
I have that (5 consecutive years of working and paying tax) and then 5 years ago I stopped working and continued on a marriage visa. Is that OK? (thanks for replying, most appreciated)Steve *******
@Martin *********
at least, 3 years of working and paying tax.Daniel ************
@Martin *********
pretty similar ... just it might take years to get it approved. You should at least sing the National Anthem and the Royal Song as they play at the movies.Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Daniel ***********
Good point. Are the requirements similar? More consecutive years maybe?Daniel ************
@Martin *********
if you are married you not need to go for PR, you can do Thai nationality immediately - after fulfil requirements - of course takes „time“ until approved ... the PR not have really much Pros.Martin ***********
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Thanks for the encouragementMartin ***********
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I speak basic Thai, not sure what level of Thai is required at the testDaniel ************
@Martin *********
salary, company shares, marriage, kids, language — everytings give you points —- you need a minimum — no worries for language ... no big deal thereSteve *******
@Martin *********
Why is it 'unfair and ridiculous?' Surely after living here 13 years you should be able to speak some Thai!Martin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you for your reply. What do you mean by "its all point based"?
Daniel ************
its not a big thing — some little speaking — and understanding — its all point based — if you fulfil the other requirements you are fine.
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ORIGINAL POSTERThank you :)
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Daniel ************
you can google that from thai immigration website - and how to obtain it - also use the search function in this group - been discussed many times
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the website is in English as wellMartin ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERThanks. I was hoping for a link (in English) without having to start diving into the conflicting information on google. Thanks for your help :)
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