Answereda year ago
What are the long-term visa options for a dual citizen planning to stay in Thailand?
I’m under 50 and planning to stay in Thailand long-term. I hold dual citizenship and have entered using different passports—once on one, then twice more on the other for visa runs. During my most recent (third) entry using the same passport, immigration questioned me about my previous 58-day stay and discovered I’m a dual citizen. Fortunately, I had an outbound ticket and was allowed to enter.
However, I’m now concerned about what might happen the next time I return, and I’m looking for a legal, long-term visa option. Ideally, I’d like something cost-effective, as I don’t want to spend a lot just to maintain a visa.
However, I’m now concerned about what might happen the next time I return, and I’m looking for a legal, long-term visa option. Ideally, I’d like something cost-effective, as I don’t want to spend a lot just to maintain a visa.
Answer summary
A dual citizen under 50 looking for a legal long-term visa in Thailand expressed concerns about their past entry on multiple passports and is seeking cost-effective visa options. Responses suggest considering the DTV visa for a 5-year multi-entry stay, especially given recent crackdowns on tourist visa runs. The ED visa is also recommended for a one-year stay with renewals. It’s advised to avoid risky behaviors that could lead to entry denial and to consult agents for smoother immigration processes.
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Henrik *****
The Immigration have both your fingerprints and you face picture, and will use facerecognition from cctv, so using different passports will not help you to stay longer, than the rules allow anybody else.
John ******
Depends on the officer how he woke up that day.
David *******
And that's what happens when you try and cheat the Thai system.
Do the correct visa and that way you'll be legally here and not constantly worried about looking over your shoulder.
Do the correct visa and that way you'll be legally here and not constantly worried about looking over your shoulder.
Brad *******
I don’t think using your Cambodian passport is the answer
Cary ****
OP@Brad ******
no
เดแคลน ***********
You're flagged in the system and each time you enter now without a visa or even with a short-term visa your chance of denial increase 10 fold. I suggest looking at a more long-term visas before returning such as the DTV
Cary ****
OP@เดแคลน **********
I see, thanks. My preference would be to apply for a single-entry tourist visa, return to Thailand for about 40 days, and then apply for the DTV. But as you mentioned, that seems riskier than going directly for the DTV.Cary ****
OP@เดแคลน **********
thank you so muchเดแคลน ***********
@Cary ***
no problem, there is another route you can take if you are determined to come by visa exempt or tourist visa before applying for the DTV. You can contact an agent such as @THAI *****************************
(they run this group) and pay for them to pre-check you with immigration and get you through immigration control without issues.เดแคลน ***********
@Cary ***
just go direct for the DTV. Even with an SETV you could be pulled out of line, questioned and then denied entry. Its upto you what you do, but personally I wouldn't risk it as a visa doesn't guarantee you entry, it only increases your chances of being allowed to enterTodd *********
All Thai visas are dirt cheap. And you were absolutely silly to enter the same country on different passports. Now you have shone the beacon on your own head. Foolish. Look at the DTV visa. And be smart about which passport you use to apply
Mark ******
Your flagged now. Make sure your 100% sorted
Fąndn *******
U r the first person I come across in this group - that looks like a Chinese who is asking about staying in Thailand !
I am sad to realise that Many chinese hav avoided this country, I m rather disappointed, coz I have plans to go there to stay too and all the ppl I see interested are all non- Chinese...
Which area in Thailand r u looking to stay ?
I am sad to realise that Many chinese hav avoided this country, I m rather disappointed, coz I have plans to go there to stay too and all the ppl I see interested are all non- Chinese...
Which area in Thailand r u looking to stay ?
Cary ****
OP@Fąndn ******
Haha, I get that a lot. I’m not too fixed on national identity — just looking for places that align with my values and way of life. Thailand feels like a good fit. What kind of lifestyle are you planning to have in Thailand? I am planning to stay in Chiangmai at this stage.Fąndn *******
@Mark *****
wat happened why is he flagged 😱Cary ****
OP@Mark *****
how to sort it out 100%?Mark ******
@Cary ***
Id get a visa before I flew
Graham ******
@Cary ***
Why the Tourist Visa which will risk being denied entry before the DTV?Cary ****
OP@Mark *****
I see, thanks. I currently have two options. My preferred plan is to apply for a single-entry tourist visa and return to Thailand one more time. I would stay for about 40 days and will have an outbound air ticket as well. After that, I plan to leave and apply for DTV. Would I be likely to face any issues re-entering Thailand on a tourist visa under this plan?Alternatively, I could leave this time and apply directly for the DTV visa, but that’s not my preferred option due to personal circumstances.
Jeremy ********
Do an Ed visa…you can get 1 year at tine with a renewal every 90 days at Thai immigration
Just make sure you go to your classes
Or try for the DTV visa
Just make sure you go to your classes
Or try for the DTV visa
Eamonn *******
@Jeremy *******
there's no visa that will fix your ED problem, Viagra might help insteadJeremy ********
@Eamonn ******
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They are cracking down on tourist visa runs pay for a visa with multiple entries
Cary ****
OP@Andrew *******
I currently have two options. My preferred plan is to apply for a single-entry tourist visa and return to Thailand one more time. I would stay for about 40 days and will have an outbound air ticket as well. After that, I plan to leave and apply for DTV. Would I be likely to face any issues re-entering Thailand on a tourist visa under this plan?Alternatively, I could leave this time and apply directly for the DTV visa, but that’s not my preferred option due to personal circumstances.
Andrew ********
@Cary ***
its a personal choice which one to do just make sure you have met the requirements for DTV meaning the money in savings for a few months. DTV must be applied for outside thailand.
Nitzan *****
@Cary ***
If you actually got a proper tourist visa (not exempt) you're unlikely to get any trouble. Having said that, yes- your long term solution is DTV. But if you're already applying for tourist visa why not just apply for DTV?Nitzan *****
@Andrew *******
Not aware of any changes. Can you point me at the news?Andrew ********
@Nitzan ****
changes made makes DTV pointless now its going awayTodd *********
@Andrew *******
they aren’t ’cracking down’ on anything. It’s just the proliferation of internet thailand newbies thinks every rejection is a new ‘crackdown’ lolAndrew ********
@Todd ********
then why do i see videos on tiktok where people who been doing border runs are being stopped more often lol even posts hereTodd *********
@Cary ***
they are quite responsive and will give you exact pricing for what you need in your situation.Cary ****
OP@Todd ********
Thanks, I’ve just contacted the agent and look forward to hearing what they say.Todd *********
@Cary ***
that totally depends where you are starting from. In your local area, there will absolutely be agencies with excellent reputations. And agencies won’t take you if they can’t guarantee you can come back. For an agent, you can just ask the owners of this page
@THAI *****************************
. Send them any questions by line or messengerCary ****
OP@Todd ********
Thanks. I’m doing exactly what you suggested—learning from here and asking to good people who might have insight. Do you happen to know any reliable border bounce agencies or agents who can assist with Thai visa runs or fast-track arrival services?Todd *********
@Cary ***
what have you seen ‘shifting frequently’? ALL nations make changes to their immigration plan annually. It’s a fast changing world. The price of Thai visas has astoundingly remained the same for many years. The criteria also. Of course it evolves, but the basics haven’t changed in decades. LTR and DTV are quite new. Seriously positive changes. At insanely low cost.
And there are well known ‘work arounds’. Border bounce agencies, agents to facilitate visa. Fast track airport arrival. Some border points are well known to be strict, others are well known for being soft. You just have to gently read and learn here. And talk to people with similar circumstances
Cary ****
OP@Todd ********
who really knows how it works? From what I can see, policies shift frequently, and in practice, border control can be relaxed or tightened depending on changing government priorities. A solution that works at one time may not work at another—it all seems contingent and unpredictable. And the truth is, we’re all growing every day, learning from our mistakes. No one is perfect, and no one has all the answers.Todd *********
@Andrew *******
for the exact reason I just explained. The internet. And newbies to Thailand with no idea how it works. Always been the same. And the reason many join sites like this is because they fucked up or don’t understand how the visa system works here. Thailand gets about 40 million tourists a year. If you see 10 million similar posts, they are cracking down. If you see 15… go back to bed and don’t soil yourself
Andi ***********
The DTV will give you a 5-year multi entry stay. METV - 6 month multi entry which can give you around 9 months with the right timed extensions
Shayne **********
@Andi **********
just don't get the DTV in New Zealand because it costs 42,000 baht.Cary ****
OP@Shayne *********
yes, the most expansive one in the world.Andi ***********
@Shayne *********
Yeah, the most expensive DTV..Cary ****
OP@Andi **********
I currently have two options. My preferred plan is to apply for a single-entry tourist visa and return to Thailand one more time. I would stay for about 40 days and will have an outbound air ticket as well. After that, I plan to leave and apply for DTV. Would I be likely to face any issues re-entering Thailand on a tourist visa under this plan?Alternatively, I could leave this time and apply directly for the DTV visa, but that’s not my preferred option due to personal circumstances.
Andi ***********
@Cary ***
It seems best to get the DTV and return and makes better financial sense. If you do enter on a SETV make sure you have a ticket of departure, 20,000THB cash/currency equivalent and accommodation booked.
John **********
@Cary ***
there's not a huge difference between visa exempt and a tourist visa. Get the DTV before you come as you're planning to get it anyway
Paul *******
dual citizen of which countries?
Cary ****
OP@Paul ******
NZ and… let’s just say, a country not on Thailand’s Christmas card list lately.Fąndn *******
@Cary ***
is there such a list ....?
Jeffrey ********
@Cary ***
Fandn, try to Google the information you needCary ****
OP@Fąndn ******
I was half-joking, but honestly, I do think Thailand selectively targets travelers from certain countries at timesFąndn *******
@Cary ***
why r they blacklisted , where can I see this list ?Cary ****
OP@Fąndn ******
a blacklist,lolAndrew ********
@Paul ******
clearly not thaiActivity
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