What are the current requirements for the Retirement Visa in Thailand regarding monthly income and bank balances?

Apr 3, 2023
2 years ago
Terry ********
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I’m sure this has been covered before, but with all the changes, you never really know.

It used to be required for the Retirement Visa to have ฿800,000 or ฿80,000 per month income or a combination there of.

I make well over the ฿80,000 a month and can prove it on my monthly bank statements from Bangkok Bank

So is this still true ?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The requirements for the Retirement Visa in Thailand still allow for a monthly income option, but there are specific conditions. For American applicants, the embassy does not certify income, which complicates the use of monthly income. To switch from the NON-O visa to the Retirement Visa, you need ฿800,000 in a Thai bank account for certain periods before applying for extensions. To qualify for the first year's extension, proof of a consistent monthly income of at least ฿65,000 transferred to a Thai bank account is required.
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Terry ********
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Half the replies say yes and half say no. Who to believe and not to believe. Geesh
Cory **********
@Terry *******
exactly confusing as heck. It honestly may depend on the immigration office you plan to apply. You need to talk to them directly for the correct answer. I would bring the VA letter with 12 months of statements and see what they say. I saw an old post of a man having trouble even with 12 months salary into the Bangkok bank. Immigration still wanted a notorized letter from the USA embassy which didn’t make much sense as USA does not verify income. If you do figure it out let us know please.
Terry ********
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@Cory *********
I will check with the embassy to see if they will notarize my letter from the VA. It’s worth a shot I guess 😂
David *********
You have more than 65,000b being transferred from overseas to a Thai Bangkok bank account for every month for 12 months then yes
Bob **********
@David ********
it must show up as a foreign transfer
Terry ********
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@Bob *********
I suppose I should go check with Bangkok bank early to make sure. Thanks
Bob **********
There will be a code in your bank book
Terry ********
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@Bob *********
to that I don’t know, it’s direct deposit from the US government
Brandon ************
The monthly income method is still a possibility. But there are some caveats.

It looks like you are American? If so, the American embassy does not certify income, so there are a few issues you might run into.

If you apply for the non-O visa in Thailand, you cannot use monthly income for that. You have to use 800,000 in a Thai bank account transferred in from overseas.

You also cannot use the monthly income for the very first 1 year extension. You would need to keep 800,000 in the account for 2 months before applying for the extension, and 3 months after. Then it cannot drop below 400,000 until you receive your next extension (if you're going to switch to monthly income).

Finally, for the extension you need to show proof of 65,000 baht transfer into your bank account from overseas every single month for the previous 12 months at the time you apply.

People whose embassy will certify their income do not have this issue and can use that certification to both apply for the non-O conversion inside of Thailand and apply for the first 1 year extension.
Jackie ***********
@Brandon ***********
there's really no prohibition on using monthly income for the first annual extension on the 90 day non-O visa, you just gotta have a 12 month history of transfers. For people who are doing this for the first time, they aren't going to have this. In my case, my previous visa expired while I was on a two month trip back to my home country. I transferred money during those two months, as well as each month prior for several years.
Jackie ***********
@Brandon ***********
I have a Non-O. I used 800k for the initial 90 day visa, but I just used monthly income to obtain my first yearly extension. Extension was approved
Wylie *******
@Brandon ***********
is the reason you say an American can't use the monthly income method to apply for the non-o because the embassy will not provide the letter and you assume the op cannot provide the 12 months of bank statements? Or is it possible if they have the proof of transfer for 12 months and are perhaps just switching the type of visa? Asking for future reference.
Brandon ************
@Wylie ******
it's because immigration will not accept it. If you want to convert to non-O inside of Thailand your only options are 800,000 or embassy certified monthly income.
Terry ********
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@Wylie ******
I do have the 12 months and I’m reapplying for my 2nd year. No 800k because I just bought a new house
Bob **********
@Terry *******
keep us posted please
Terry ********
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@Brandon ***********
my income is from the US Veterans Administration and I do have a letter from them verifying my monthly income. Does that help ?
Frank **********
@Terry *******
no it will not be accepted.
Brandon ************
@Terry *******
not at all. Only embassy verified income matters and the US embassy has not done this for over 5 years.
Terry ********
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@Brandon ***********
yeah I remember getting it years ago and then when they discontinued doing it. I guess it’s back to an agency again this year. Do all run about 20-25k ?
Roberto *********
@Terry *******
Beware paying bribes. Not always the best strategy
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