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What are the current options for obtaining a Thailand visa, including for volunteering and homeschooling children?

Vanessa ***************
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I'm trying to sort through options for Thailand visas - we're teachers who need a break from teaching in China. We've been to Phuket before and love it.

1) Language visas are possible for adults but not for our kids. As we're qualified teachers we prefer to homeschool our own two rather than admit them to a school. We've been told we could let our kids just overstay as they won't incur a fine.

2) We've also been told volunteer visas are no longer allowed or being issued.

Can someone speak to that last point if it's true or not and if anything would happen with our kids being on overstay while we studied Thai?
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The conversation centers around the visa options for a family of teachers looking to relocate to Thailand temporarily. The users discuss the possibility of using volunteer visas, which are reportedly still being issued, contrary to some claims. They also explore the consequences of overstaying with their children, noting that children under 15 do not incur fines, although overstaying is technically illegal. Suggestions are made for finding suitable volunteer organizations and the process of transitioning from a tourist visa to other visa types. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of verifying volunteer opportunities and understanding immigration rules.
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Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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This is not true correct?
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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@Benjamin *****
😅 thanks - I got wrong, opposite information early on in this search before joining this group.

I feel like this topic might benefit from a game board style infographic lol
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Vanessa **************
I know what you mean. You want one of those infographics that makes things much easier to understand. I'm not a graphics person myself, but if I was, I would whip something up.
Amaël ******
Amaël ******
I can confirm volunteer visas are being issued and extended both, there have been no changes for legit foundations.
Nat *******
Nat *******
If you just want to come and stay and not work, you can get the special tourist visa which allows 9 months total.
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Nat ******
I do not think she qualifies for a special tourist visa since she is currently in China.
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Benjamin *****
also as far as i know, thai consulates in china will not issue visas unless you are chinese.
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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@Benjamin *****
ah understand
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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@Benjamin *****
Is it based on nationality or country of departure?
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Vanessa **************
It would be based on your nationality. If you're American, you'll have to get an STV in America. Also, the STV can not be converted or extended inside Thailand.

Remember too, if you go down the STV route, you can not legally volunteer since it's employment prohibited (You can't get a work permit on an STV) 😮
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
I received a message from Vanessa yesterday, which cleared up this post. She would like to volunteer in Thailand as an actual, legal volunteer.

>We've been told we could let our kids just overstay as they won't incur a fine.

That is correct. Children under 15 do not get fined, and children between 15 to 18 get a fine of up to 20K THB but are not blacklisted or deported. It is still illegal to have the children on overstay however.

>We've also been told volunteer visas are no longer allowed or being issued.

Not true. If you want to be an actual volunteer working for a non-government organization, those visas are being issued. You will be issued a work permit, a visa and the extension of stay. This group does not allow discussion of what volunteer organization would be best for your needs, and is a question that should be asked in a relevant Phuket group or searching Google.

I do not believe you can legally volunteer on an ED visa, since an ED visa is employment prohibited and therefore can't have a work permit. You can study and take classes on any visa though. My advice would be to contact volunteer organizations in whatever industry you want to volunteer within, and try to arrange for a volunteer visa before arrival.

In theory, your children can also enter, or acquire, a Non-O visa based on being a dependent for someone on a Non-O visa based on volunteering.
Bobby ********
Bobby ********
With regards to point 2, have you approached any volunteer foundations yet? They would be able to tell you which volunteer visas are available in specific areas.
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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@Bobby *******
Just started to, but approaching it a bit blind
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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And one last question, if we just come on any visa then seek volunteer work or actual work, will we face significant issues (leave and apply in the US) or just minimal issues (leave the country and apply at another country's consulate) in changing from tourist to Ed or Ed to volunteer or work?
Bobby ********
Bobby ********
Vanessa Marie Jencks. There's no straight answer to your question. Although an ED should be reasonably straightforward, as far as B or O (volunteer) is concerned these are dependent on who you are working for and their relationship with their respective immigration offices. There's no 'one size fits all' for these situations
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Vanessa **************
>in changing from tourist to Ed or Ed to volunteer or work?

You shouldn't have any problems acquiring an in-country ED visa from a tourist visa. You *MIGHT* have problems going from an in-country ED visa to an employment visa (known as a Non-B in Thailand).
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Vanessa **************
Here's what I would do if I were you:

1. I would do a search on Google (or Baidu if you're in China) for "Volunteer in Phuket". If you're using Baidu and not Google, you will have to spend some time going through the links. If you can access Google, use that search engine.

2. Find a list of volunteer organizations that interest you, and find their e-mail address.

3. Send them an e-mail that says something like "To whom it may concern. I am [name here], and I'm interested in volunteering with your organization. I'm currently in China. Do you issue Non-O visas based on volunteering to foreigners?"

4. Wait for responses. Get people's opinion and see which one is best for you.
Vanessa ***************
Vanessa ***************
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@Benjamin *****
Thank you for the thorough breakdown. I have done Google searches however much foundation information is out of date. I've learned in China that on the ground, personal connection is a thousand times faster, efficient and accurate, hence taking the advice to ask in relevant Phuket groups.

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