What are the current limitations on the duration of Student (ED) visas in Thailand?

May 24, 2018
7 years ago
Tod *********
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Josh D Hearn asked a question on another thread. He heard that the Ed visa situation now is limited to 9 months.
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The conversation discusses the current status of Education (ED) visas in Thailand, particularly focusing on new limitations stating that these visas are typically valid for shorter durations, often just 9 months. Expats share experiences on the necessity of obtaining extensions and the specific rules varying by location and institution. Notably, the Ministry of Education's enforcement of stricter guidelines around the ED visa, based on abuse by some holders, has been highlighted. Users emphasize that individuals now usually receive one 90-day entry ED visa followed by extensions, but many find that it's more challenging to extend beyond the stated time limits. The ED visa duration and availability may depend on the type of course and what immigration office the individual is working with.
Жанна ************
Unless someone from non-English speaking countries; those can continue ed visa while study different languages, such English
Жанна ************
CORRECT
Ryan *********
Does this only apply to newly issued ED visas? I got mine about a month ago (before this change I assume). It was explcit that I was paying for a 1 year course. That is only 9 months now?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
These changes happened way longer than just a month ago in bangkok at least. I'd say it's been 6 months now since they went to one ED visa for the 8-9 months to get thru basic-intermediate thai and then get another ED visa and do 6-7 months to get thru advanced thai.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
depends on what school you're attending and what immigration office you use.
Jason *******
I always thought it was a 90 days visa you could extend to get 12 months in total per visa, then you could get another one the following year, up to 4 years of the ED visa. Is this no longer possible? When did it change?
Jason *******
@Tod ********
I’m going to be looking into some programs that are totally unrelated to language study.
Tod *********
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@Jason ******
It seems that it's language related as I know people on ED visas to learn english that have the same set up.
Jason *******
@Tod ********
thanks. Yeah so the idea of it being extendable 3x after the first 90 days, effectively, is gone. Is that for all ED visas? Or just the Thai language ones?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
It is a 90 day visa and you apply for an extension every 90 days (no one gets a year extension except real university students), BUT they recently changed and now you can only get 8-9 months out of the first ED visa then you go get another one and get 5-6 months out of it, then you're DONE studying thai. and if you wanna be on an ED visa you pick a new language
Dave **********
It depends on what you are studying and the expected length of the course.

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EDU visas for university courses usually allow for extensions of stay for up to 1-year renewable for the duration of the program unless the course is less than 1 year.

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Language center courses are short (6-9 months) due to abuse of the visa and will require paperwork every 90 days or a visa run.
Azharuddin **********
I’m on 11 month VISA, well it’s for a MBA course but it all depends on what you’re studying.
Graham *********
most ED where abused so it's good things are getting tougher
Graham *********
I live with sisaket girl...speaks issan as she calls it..and Kymer. .but now via bung khan nong kai ..there dialect....we are now in udon..so I get a mix and match...although she is fluent in english speaking and writing ....
Michael ********
Yes so now it is a lot less years than it used to be so it is ruined for the normal folk. If you are under 50, not married, no children, no job in Thailand, an ED was one of the only affordable and available options. But the system dodgers have to screw it for everyone.....sigh.
Biff *******
The Korat dialect is VERY different from other Isaan dialects. What you will find is that people from different parts of the north-east will find common ground in their languages. Many people speak more than one dialect due to the mixed nature of the population and overlap of language. My wife is from Korat, our neighbours speak a variety of languages from Lao (northern) Northern Thai and a smattering of various Lao-Isaan dialects. When my wife and her sister start talking their Korat dialect, no-one understands (which is probably why they do it:) )

Everyone I speak to in Central Thai understands, and is able to respond so that I do too. Some of the older folk might have to pause a bit to think it through, but they still get it in the end.

It's not just the official Thai language, it's the one that people from all the different language backgrounds use to speak with each other, unless they have another common dialect, or know enough of each other's dialect to get by. Thai people from the regions away from the central area are often multi-lingual. They enjoy having fun with many different aspects of the multiple languages found in Thailand. As learners of Thai, we would need decades to catch up with the average rice farmer in terms of their language skills. Central Thai is the one that we will find to be most useful in any part of the Kingdom. That's why they teach it to us in schools.
Josh *******
exactly my point and view
Graham *********
the Ed visa was a scam...it let people stay when in fact as stated none where learning thai...it was a joke..I can go back 20 years when this was happening...
Josh *******
People that get the visa but don't attend to learn thai, they are abusing the system, and possibly taking the place of someone that genuinely wants to learn
Michael ********
Why is it good that it is tougher for the people who follow the line to pay the price for the abusers??
Graham *********
@Tod ********
..yes they have to learn it...using it is different
Graham *********
they learn thai...but use the local dialect.....I am in udon at the moment...most speak issan as they call it...don't hear thai hardly at all
Tod *********
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@Gra***
I disagree 100% :/ The Central Thai language is the OFFICIAL government approved version taught in every school in the country and I've yet to meet a thai that couldn't understand it or respond to in in Central Thai. Even thais from a one buffalo village in Nakhon Nowhere learn it.
Graham *********
I would say central thai is mostly educated Chinese thais...
Graham *********
@Tod ********
..yes 25 years here...10 with lady korat...she spoke thai most if the time...10 years with sisaket girl..spoke issan as they call it and Kymer. ..she would not speak thai in sisaket or none kai...only there dialect. ..I spoke thai in sisaket but was ignored most of the time
Tod *********
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@Gra***
keep in mind there is only ONE government approved version of the thai language and that's Central Thai.

If a thai spent a day in school they had that language beaten into their head, it's spoken at ALL the schools, the government offices and on all the t/v stations.

I can ONLY speak Central Thai and I traveled the length and breadth of this country from Chiang Rai to Hat Yai, Chantaburi to Kanchanaburi and was understood and replied to in kind by everyone.

There is next to no value in learning one of the many many dialects here because it's useful ONLY in one area where as central thai can be used everywhere you go.

As far as the Isaan dialects, someone from Nong Khai (that has a dialect closer to real Lao) might have a problem understanding someone from Surin (that has a dialect with a lot of Khmer words in it). There is NO one isaan language, there's a whole bunch of loosely related ones. NONE of them are pure thai and none of them are pure lao.
Graham *********
bar girls are good fun for slang thai...lol
Josh *******
@Graham ********
lol i'm in mae hong son, my missus teaches me northern thai, not a bar girl though 😂
Graham *********
Thai 5 dialects... try and learn all of them lol.....if in issan learn issan from a bar girl....you will learn very quick. ..lol
Josh *******
i agree with that, i have a thai partner and her mum doesn't speak english very well, also a lot of my thai friends i would like to be able to speak more, its basic thai i speak now so doing the ed benefits me by the language and the length of stay. I always believe where you live you should learn the language, i grew up in spain, so i speak fluent spanish, thats how it should be :) p.s i don't expect to ever speak fluent thai 5555
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
The good news is the Ministry of Education no longer does ANY testing as far as what your thai level is so you can get extensions of stays like they used to in Bangkok. It's just 3 month ED visa, two 90 day extensions and you go get a new ED visa for the next part.
Steffi ********
I have a question regarding this: I came to Thailand end of December 2017 on a Non Imm ED visa. 90days. Whenever I go to immigration and get an extension they'll only give me 60days though. How many extensions can I get? Currently on my 2nd on. School said they are not sure I can get another one. Thanks!
Josh *******
thanks a lot tod ! You got a new fan
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
i answered your question here
@Jo**
because it wasn't related to that other thread :)
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
TRUE (depending on where you are in thailand). In Bangkok the Ministry of Education made a policy (that is slowly getting around the country) that you can study thai for a total of 15-16 months.

It's broken down into two separate ED visa/extension chunks

You get the paperwork from the school and go get a 90 day single entry ED visa from a thai consulate. Then when you come back you can get extensions for the next 6 months. That covers basic and intermediate thai levels.

Then you get more paperwork, go to a thai consulate and get another 90 day single entry ED visa and you can extend that ONCE for 3 more months (giving you 6 months total) for the advanced course. Then you are done. You need to pick a different language to study.
Mark ********
I'm on a ed visa I had to go Laos with extension paperwork after 8 months for a new ed visa stamp.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
your school didn't maximize the amount of time you can wring out of the program. You can get just about 9 months out of the first part and then another 6 months out of the second part.
Sam ******
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