What are the best options for transferring money to Thailand for a long-stay visa?

Nov 30, 2023
a year ago
Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Good morning all. I have decided to make the move from the UK and come to join you all 🕶🕶☀️☀️👍😁👏.

I arrive on a 90 day visa in Jan and during this time I am going to apply for my 12 month visa.

I need some advice for the following please. I'm sure someone will have trodden the same path 😅.

1. I have to open a Thai bank account and deposit 800000thb. It has to be in there for at least 2 months before I can apply for my 12 month visa. The cheapest way I have found so far to transfer the 800000thb will cost £600 using a transfer company who give me a lesser gbp to thb rate to nake their money. Has anyone found a cheaper way?

2. On the consulate website I can combine my monthly pension income and deposit amount to make up the 800000thb. So for example I could deposit 400000thb and make up the rest with my monthly pension. My pension provider doesn't provide paper payslips. I can show my pension deposits going into my bank account each month. Would this be OK to show the bank/immigration authoritieswhen I apply for my visa?.

3. I'm sure I will love moving to Thailand but just in case how easy is it to move my 800000thb back into my UK account?.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Have a great day.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A user plans to move from the UK to Thailand on a 90-day visa, aiming to apply for a 12-month retirement visa. They seek advice on transferring 800,000 THB to a Thai bank account, meeting financial requirements, and moving funds back to the UK. Community responses suggest using services like Wise for affordable transfers, highlighting that the first visa extension requires the funds to remain for two months. The conversation covers the complexity of combining monthly pension income with the deposit, emphasizing that proper income certification from the embassy is no longer available for UK citizens. Various methods for transferring funds are discussed, with recommendations for local banks like Kasikorn and strategies for complying with immigration rules.
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Dan ********
Use Wise,far cheaper
Ian ********
Wise and you get a card that's great to use day to day and leave good card in safe 👍
Peter *******
Andrew, good decision, one that I made more than twenty years ago. I assume from your post that you will be applying for a retirement visa, and prior to leaving the UK you plan to obtain a Non Immigrant O visa

from a Thai consulate in the UK,which is the normal procedure.

The Bank Account that I have had for more than 20 years is

Kasikorn Bank and I have always been satisfied with their service.

NB, My remarks are made in this post “Without Prejudice “

Kind regards.
Ally ************
I dont pay any fees to do an international transfer from my Uk bank account.. and i pay a 500bht handling fee to my Thai Bank upon receipt of the transfer.. the exchange rate is always reasonable imo.. so i don't go looking for a 'slightly better rate' with an fx company.. i prefer the feeling of security i get from knowing that my money is going directly from the Uk bank to the Thailand bank.. and having only 2 parties involved in the transaction minimises potential delays.. as well as giving me the strongest regulatory protection at both ends of the transaction.. whereas introducing a third party company brings in another regulatory regime that could be weaker.. just my personal preference for what it's worth.
Lo ******
Lo ******
600£ fees is too much for the transfer of 800,000 Baht, I just checked on WISE app, it cost about 130£
Heather *******
Take a look at Revolut. Only downside is to never transfer money on week ends as it occurs heavy charges. Used it for years and never had a problem
Steve **********
Make sure pension deposited in UK and transfered to your Thai bank.

Bank book will show FTT ( indicated funds from abroad ).
Tullio *******
Open Krungsri or Kasikorn bank you can transfer money from Thailand to uk or anywhere else directly from the app on your phone pretty straight forward. For other questions you got plenty of answers.
เฟร็ด **********
open a thai bank account then transfer the money from your gb account in gbp, I have found the thai bank with the best xchange rate to be thai farmer bank, £600 to transfer is a ludicrous ripoff, it is also easy to send back to an os account, best of british luck
John ********
If your going to move your money back to the UK then you will find Bangkok bank silom Rd it will be no problem at all
Will ************
I use currency club . Transfer as much as you like rate is similar to Wise or the TT exchange booths on the street.
Kenny **********
I recently transferred 3 million baht from my uk bank account to my Thai bank account via swift and it cost me £20. I am with nationwide bank. The exchange rate was favourable
Todd *********
@Kenny *********
define ‘favourable’. Is that a synonym for total 💩?
Graham *******
I arrived on a stamp at the airport, set up a bank account, applied for the 3 month and 12-month extension of stay and bought a condo at the same time. I had help from an agent, I suggest u do the same. You can take your money out if its in a thai bank and labelled as FTT.
Vini ***********
@Graham ******
nice… who was your agent?
Lyndon ************
@Graham ******
needs to maintain a minimum 400k balance and back to 800k
John *********
Your first retirement visa is 3 months plus 12 months = 15 months then everyone after that is for 12 months only use Wise if you want a link I can help you cheers 🤔
Steve ********
@John ********
I think he said he's coming in on the 90-day visa, so he can go straight to the 12 month extension
Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi John. Please send me the link. Appreciated
John *********
@Andrew *******
sent in inbox
Nick ************
This is how I understand it from my experience. You can't use monthly income for your first 12 month extension which I am guessing is based on retirement.

When you deposit
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0 baht in a thai bank account in your name only it has to be there two months before you apply for your extension. Following that it has to stay at
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0 baht for three months after you get your extension. Following that it must not drop below
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0 baht at any time during the year. These are the financial requirements for your first extension. If you wish to use monthly transfers you must start them when you get your first extension so you have to have the deposit as described above in addition. However these monthly deposits must show as international transfers into your Thai bank. This can be problematic but Bangkok bank is the best I know for achieving this. You can spend the monthly deposit or send it back where it came from using Dee Money. When you apply for your second extension you must show that you have met the criteria for your first one and 12 months of bank statements showing the deposits as
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baht a month or a combination of banked money and monthly statements totaling
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0 baht. That is how you change from banked money to monthly transfer. Personally though it does not make good investment sense I find it less stressful to just keep
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0 baht in a locked account and use that to get my annual extension. I hope that explains it for you. Good luck.

I am quite happy to be corrected if any of the above is wrong or incomplete as it could be helpful to me too.
John **********
@Nick ***********
I'd start these monthly transfers before getting the first extension if he's going to use that option for his second extension just to make sure he has the full 12 months. Also not all offices allow the combination method so best to check directly with them
Nick ************
Kool *******
For that amount, the bt800k, do a SWIFT bank2bank transfers. That is the cheapest, and has the needed paper trail if you want to send it back to the UK. Wise is good for smaller amounts, but not for that amount, and your long term plans that can change.
Todd *********
@Kool ******
Swift is definitely NOT the cheapest. It’s more likely the most expensive. It’s effective for sure. But you have to hate your own money
Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Agreed m8. Looked into it. Very expensive and a bit slow. Currency direct seems to be the cheapest I can find. I think I will tx a larger amount and use the ATM's. I think the 220thb charge works out cheaper. Tks for the help.
Todd *********
Anthony Walsh the fee is all but irrelevant. It's how badly they burn you on exchange rate
Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thats what I meant by how much I am going to get charged. The difference in the exchange rate that the transfer companies offer is how I worked out the £600 charge. Cheers
Tony *********
@Andrew *******
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Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Tks. How do you set up swift? Is it an app? Cheers
Kim *********
@Andrew *******
a swift transfer is an international money transfer system for banks. The swift code consists of a BIC code which is the bank identifyer code and an IBAN number which is the recipients bank account
Tony *********
@Kim ********
a Swift code is not made up from a recipients IBAN number. It is quite separate. For instance the Swift code for Kasikorn Bank is KASITHBKXXX. The Swift code for Krungsri Bank is AYUDTHBK. In fact Banks in Thailand do not use an IBAN (International Bank Account Number). However, they do use the SWIFT coding system for banking transactions.
Kim *********
@Tony ********
That is not what I am saying. I say that the swift code consists of a BIC code which is the banks identification code for example KASITHBXXX and with money transfers from bank to bank we use SWIFT/IBAN where IBAN is the customers account number
Tony *********
@Kim ********
Thai Banks don't use Iban numbers. If you make a telegraphic transfer from your UK bank to a Thai bank account all your bank wants to know is the name of the Thai Bank, the branch address, the name of the account holder, the Thai bank account number which is not iban and the swift code.
Kim *********
@Tony ********
it is the same - Iban is the account number - so call it Iban call it account number - same same
Tony *********
@Andrew *******
no Swift is not an app. SWIFT is an acronym for the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications. Banks including your UK bank use the Swift system to transfer money internationally. My bank which is Nationwide charges £35 no matter what the amount. So I don't know where you got the figure of £600 from for the transfer fee. And when you send it make sure you send it in pounds to be converted here, not Thai baht from your UK bank otherwise you will get a really bad rate.
Craig *******
@Tony ********
you also need to consider the exchange rate of doing a swift transfer - the low fee my be offset by an inferior exchange rate (not saying this is the case but you need to check)
Tony *********
@Craig ******
I would personally use Wise.
Tony *********
@Craig ******
so what's the alternative to Swift?
Craig *******
@Tony ********
Wise, XE, Remittly...plenty of alternatives
Neal *******
Someone better qualified than me will likely respond. You will apply for an extension of stay based upon retirement, not a 12 month visa. As for your pension, you will need to establish a 12 month history of pension deposits into your Thailand bank account before you are able to apply these towards your financial requirements needed for your extension. So you will need the 800k TBht in your account for the first year. But again, someone better qualified than myself will most likely respond.
Brown ********
@Neal ******
that's spot on
Brandon ************
1) Most people use Wise to transfer between their home bank account and their Thai bank account. Make sure you use the correct reason for the transfer since your money needs to show as having come from overseas.

2) as you're from the UK you cannot use income for your visa or extension because you need to have that income certified by your embassy. The UK embassy no longer does this for many years now. Your first 1 year extension will require 800,000 in your bank account.

3) you can use Deemoney to transfer out of Thailand similar to using Wise to transfer in.
Ed **********
@Brandon ***********
If the UK Embassy no longer certify income, any suggestions from who we can use to certify income?
Brandon ************
@Ed *********
you cannot. The ONLY option for income is embassy certified income. If your embassy does not certify income then you cannot use income for your non-O visa or the first 1 year extension. You can do international transfer into your account every month for the first year and use that as proof of income for year 2, but you cannot do that for year 1. Even if you have a year of transfers to show, you cannot use it for year 1.

The first 1-year extension can only be obtained with 800,000 baht in your bank account or embassy certified income.
Ed **********
@Brandon ***********
Hi Brandon sorry for the late response, I'm confused - if UK Embassy no longer certify an income what are my options - this can't be right for every UK Citizen?

So what is my option?
Brandon ************
@Ed *********
you put the 800,000 baht in your Thai bank accoubt for the initial visa and first 1-year extension and you can then transfer 65,000 baht per month from overseas into your Thai bank account and use proof of those monthly transfers to switch to the income method for your second and future annual extensions.

For those whose embassy no longer certify income there is no method for using income for your visa and first extension. It's not an option. Only the 800,000 in the bank.
Andrew ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Tks. Much appreciated.
Jim ***********
Use Wise. Formerly Transferwise
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