What is the best way to transfer £20,000 to a Bangkok Bank account for retirement in Thailand?

Nov 3, 2023
a year ago
Hathaway *************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi All, I'm prepping for my retirement to Thailand, I will be transferring £20k to my Bangkok Bank a/c but have NEVER transferred such a large sum internationally before, is SWIFT the best option?
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The community discussion revolves around the best options for transferring £20,000 to a Bangkok Bank account as part of retirement preparations in Thailand. While some suggest using traditional SWIFT transfers, many community members advocate for Wise (formerly TransferWise) due to its cost-effectiveness and favorable exchange rates. Users recommend checking bank fees prior to transferring and highlight the importance of selecting the correct reason for transfer (like 'funds for long-term stay') to comply with visa requirements. Alternatives mentioned include other money transfer services and the practicalities of using international accounts for better rates.
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Claude *******
Best option is cash 💷
Terary **********
I think SWIFT is your better option. Unfortunately I have never done SWIFT so you maybe want to double check. You may want to show your funds came from a foreign account. This is necessary for your visa. I believe SWIFT automatically indicates the funds come from abroad (good). With Wise you need to select the "Long term Stay in Thailand", to show the funds originated from overseas. I think wise will cost you in the neighborhood of £200.
David ***********
Definitely wise
Av **********
U know money dissappears in banks in Thailand....for both farang and locals lol
Christopher *************
I used swift before but prefer wise straight into Bangkok bank
Zac ********
You can transfer from your UK account to your BKK bank account directly, the cost was £15 per transaction, this is how I transferred large sums from the UK to here 7 amounts ago.
Nick ************
@Zac *******
if you are talking about SWIFT transfer then your exchange rate was probably shocking.
Zac ********
@Nick ***********
you have a choice of exchanging UK side or Thai side depending on which code you use, better rate when change in Thailand.
Henry ********
Wiseor Xe
Olivier ************
Shall you ever consider buying a condominium in your name all funds will need to have been for " Property purchase "

I always input that reason just in case.

But I am not sure if when purchasing a condo they need to see a 1 time transfer or if multiple transfer over a few years are acceptable
Annie **********
Wise.com
Ken ******
another point to note:

thailand going to start wordwide income tax january next year. Remittance into thailand has implication of tax liability
Sean **********
@Ken *****
have to wait for the final government written law before we will know how this will affect each individual case.
Ken ******
anyone having compared WISE rate vs Superich in thailand? which is better?
John *******
@Ken *****
I noticed in April suprerich in airport was less then on my wise app
Neil *********
@John ******
airport rates no matter who you use are always lower
John *********
@Neil ********
Down in the basement where the trains leave from have the town rate. Upstairs low.
Ken ******
but beware, my knowledge is that airport rate are usually more expensive for conversion to thai baht

and different superich branch rate not the same
Ken ******
@John ******
so you mean WISE is better? at airport rate
John *******
@Ken *****
correct at that Time That day now I don't know
John *******
Make sure you choose the right reason in wise for transfer in menu option
John **********
Wise
Phil *****
Charles Schwab slightly better than wise
Ian ********
I got wise piss easy to get on the net takes 5 minutes
Stuart ***********
I use Wise to transfer money. It is simple and usually the best value.

Have you considered getting a Starling debit card (or similar) before you come to live in Thailand?

It is free to use in shops and supermarkets in Thailand and you get the exchange rate of the day.

This means that you need to transfer less cash for daily living here.

Also, in an emergency you can use the card to withdraw cash at an ATM.
Chris *****
Wise is cheapest, and if you've time, set an automated conversion up to grab a slightly better rate.

Here's some research i did about a year ago

Auto convert within Wise - £10.94 on £2000

Spend THB with Wise card: free

Transfer Wise THB balance to Bangkok Bank: 31.70 Baht (79p) per trx, any amount

Convert and transfer: sum of above (eg £2000 => ie, 10.94 + 0.79)

So rarely any reason to just convert - you may as well set up an automated transaction a percent or two better than the current rate, depending on how much of a rush you're in, turn your phone off and forget about it, and Wise will snipe the better rate whenever a peak comes along.

Global Reach (a dedicated broker) just gave me a quote, £20k 6th Dec 5pm gmt+7, 42.59 no fees, so 851,800 (haven't clarified but assume 500 Baht receiving fee would also apply when they SWIFT THB to Bangkok Bank)

Interbank rate, at time 42.7467 (I miss this rate!)

Bangkok bank TT buy at time 42.
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, net 845,950 Baht

Wise at time 42.7570, £110 fee (0.5%), net 850,430 Baht

Currency club 849,867

Currency fair 851,923 (assume receiving charge of 500 Baht to come off too)

Remitly is good if you're American.

Looked into a few others, including moneygram and XE, nothing comes close to these. monito.com gives you some quotes.

Alternative currency brokers much like Global Reach are Currencies Direct, TorFX and Moneycorp (but they refused to give me a spot rate without passing all the 'know your client' checks).

So Global Reach better than Wise but only by 900 Baht / 0.1%. They could probably push things though - this was just a spot rate reluctantly shared.

Currency Fair was better than Wise by 1,100 Baht / 0.13%. EDIT: Checked again a few weeks later, amid a sinking market, and on both occasions CurrencyFair was worse than Wise. I also tried CurrencyFair and had a week of paperwork proving source of funds before they'd release my converted funds, by which time I'd lost a fair bit on the rate.
Chris *****
by which time I'd lost a fair bit on the rate. My money was from savings, so I couldn't provide a wage slip etc. They threatened to keep the money. Wise always easy.

On CurrencyFair and Wise, you can put a limit order, or automated transaction, that triggers if a rate reaches a given level. These need time and care, but are great for grabbing a rate that is only available briefly due to a momentary spike. With Wise, they leave a THB balance in Wise, which can be spent on the card absolutely free, or transferred to a Thai bank for 32 Baht (fixed charge, regardless of amount).

Santander Zero claims to be a zero fee card, but actually adds a 0.83% margin to the Mastercard rate, which already has a 1-2% margin on GBP.

Halifax is genuinely a zero fee card, gives you the Mastercard rate, but as mentioned that currently includes 1-2% for GBP.

The Visa rate is best, adds just 0.3% to the ECB interbank rate, which is what Wise gives. So spending on card too, Wise comes out a percent or two better than even fee free Mastercards. EDIT: MasterCard were adding a percent or two margin, just to GBP, probably due to the recent chaos in the UK. Visa and MasterCard are now competitive with each other, and it varies by day which edges ahead. So worth checking MasterCard and Visa rates on the day.

MasterCard rates:
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Visa rates:
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These are apparently the ATM limits:

Citi: THB 50,000, so THB 220 is 0.44% (plus MC 1%)

Krungsri: THB 30,000, so 220 is 0.73%

Bangkok Bank: THB 25,000, 0.88%

Krungthai: THB 25,000; (max 50,000 p/day)

SCB: THB 20,000, 1.1%

But if you're withdrawing money on a card, far better to go into the bank if you've time and do it over the counter. That way you are not subject to your card daily ATM limits, the Thai bank's transaction limits or the ridiculous 220 Baht fee.

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If you use this to open your Wise account, you get fee free transfers for your first £500. If I get three people to transfer £200+ in one go, I get £50.
Brandon ************
If you're transferring the money to apply for a retirement visa then either use Swift or make sure you use the correct reason on Wise so that it is shown as an international transfer v
Hathaway *************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
Thanks again Brendon, I'm at work atm and I'm sure it would entail a drop down menu but could you give a clue as to "Correct" reason?
Kim *********
@Hathaway ************
funds for long term stay is the correct reason for the transfer to show as an international transfer
Graham ******
@Hathaway ************
The last option on this "Reason for transfer" drop-down menu
Hathaway *************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Graham *****
Ty so much.
Melissa *********
I used wise because better deal than amount that would have reached Thailand if I used my bank account
Dana *******
Ask about the fees in YOUR bank.
Dave **********
@Dana ******
great answer as in my case low bank fees and I make infrequent transfers so my bank is the better deal. Also my bank reimburses all ATM charges.
Paul ********
Wise
Michael ******
WISE
Martin *****
Wise
Duncanc **********
No.
Egger *********
Open a revolution or wise account , I transfer to them then into my Thai account. Bank transfer rate was far to costly.

And can set up monthly transfers
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