How can I effectively transfer a large sum of money for my retirement visa in Thailand?

Feb 10, 2024
10 months ago
Paul ********
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How do you transfer the large amount of money for your retirement visa
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Transferring a large amount of money to support a retirement visa in Thailand can be done through various methods, with Wise and traditional bank transfers being the most frequently mentioned options. Users recommend Wise for its favorable rates and user-friendliness, noting that it allows transfers up to 2 million baht to certain Thai banks in one go. However, limitations exist, such as daily transfer limits of 50,000 baht from certain banks, and users advise against transferring amounts over $10,000 due to potential scrutiny from authorities. It's advisable to ensure that the funds are transferred to a personal Thai bank account and to be mindful of the new tax regulations that may apply to large sums entering Thailand.
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Frans ******
don't
John *******
Been using Wise for years and never a problem 🙏🤠
Joan ****************
Wise
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Ken ******
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Nongnuch ********
@Ken *****
interesting read
Ken ******
with new tax law, one may need to report or account for money transfered into thailand?
Nongnuch ********
@Ken *****
no you don't need to report. In case the Thai tax authority approaches you anytime in the far future, never mind, bringing in "inventory assets" (like any savings you keep abroad) will not be taxed. Only "income" might get taxed. If you can prove you had the savings before, or money from selling property abroad, and you already paid Tax or was tax free in your home country, Thailand will not tax it. Only these TEN forms of income transferred to Thailand, the Thais are planning (!!) to taxate (sorry, only in German) :
Stuart **********
I use orbit remit.There is a limit of
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bht due to Monet laundering act but you can do multiple transfers.
Nongnuch ********
@Stuart *********
Keep in mind, three Thai banks will allow you to transfer more than 50,000.- THB by a one time transfer . These are the Kasikorn, Bangkok Bank and Siam Bank PLC
Stuart **********
@Nongnuch *******
yes the banks will let you but orbit remit will not let you.
Nongnuch ********
@Stuart *********
then use WISE. A single transfer can be made to the limit at 2 million Thai Baht. Last year I transferred 52.000.- Euros with WISE in one swoop to my SCB bank account
Stuart **********
@Nongnuch *******
sounds good will check it out..Not sure about Europe but NZ and Australian have strict money laundering laws.If I’m in Aus I can’t even use my NZ tab account to have a bet but no trouble from thailand
Nongnuch ********
@Stuart *********
ah well, I haven't considered it. In Europe, a SEPA bank transfer is under the scrutiny of the tax authorities anyways. If it is legal money, there is no problem to send it by using WISE, as they got a Belgian account, which is within the SEPA zone
Nongnuch ********
use WISE for the transfer to your bank account. Keep in mind only three Thai banks will allow WISE to transfer more than 50,000.- THB. These are the Kasikorn, Bangkok Bank and Siam Bank PLC. With WISE, you can send maximum of 2 million Baht in one transfer
Baljit *******
Wire transfer
John *************
Have been transferring frequent < $1000USD amounts routinely for a couple of years as well as some larger amounts for land/house construction infrequently. Our experience:

Wise and Remitly close to same net costs (transaction fee + exchange rate premium). Had a couple of incidents with Wise hanging onto the money for ACH transfers longer than I thought was necessary and found their support frustrating. That's why we also set up Remitly.

Our bank (TD Bank) will make one free SWIFT transfer per month for our category of checking account. Count on one business day for availability because of the 12 hour time offset. One time I did a head-to-head comparison (transfer from Wise and SWIFT on the same day) and found that the bank exchange premium was less than the add-on fees from Wise. The disadvantages are the one/month limit and the need to make the request in-person at a bank branch.
Lynton ********
Get a crypto wallet
Bernie *************
@Lynton *******
how would that help?
Tom ************
Wise
Pablo ********
Wise
Mark ********
Through my bank account. No charge.
Nika ********
@Mark *******
would.oive to know any bank that doesnt charge for wire transfers
Stefan *******
Wise was best for me,my bank in my home country was more expensive because lower rate
David ***********
Very carefully
Norbert ***********
Anything over 10.000,€ you have to send paper to the bank or wise.
Peter ****************
I suggest an experiment. Transfer 1k USD or similar using bank and wise. Then divide by rate of the day to see what you really get. My bank is completely opaque regarding exchange rate. Wise is the opposite. So do this then insert what you really would have sent. You can use the wise app using the full amount and they will show you fees. Swift with a bank used to cost me a flat 45 USD for what I'd send but I never knew the exchange rate. I use Wise but we're I to move a lot of money I'd experiment.
Daniel *******
I'll send you all the details in a phishing email.
Paul ********
Wise is good do a download yourself and don’t give £75 on a recommendation
Pam ********
I will take it over for you Sir!
Klaus ********
bank transfer
Anthony ****
Carefully.

Using wise.
Johnny *********
Bank transfer.. no problem if money is legal
Christopher *************
Bank
Ray ******
You need 1 of the major 4 thai bank accounts.

Then you can transfer a large amount.

I had a thai UOB account, maximum transfer is 50k baht
Gregory ********
Why would you bring it here for 1%—pay an agent—you pay one time—you earn monthly interest abroad which will more than cover the fee
Sergio *********
I use Revolut
Jack *********
If I had more time I would have done wise but I ended up just doing Swift for my bank
Gregory ********
@Jack ********
check the rates—they make the money on exchange rate—bank allways better👍👍👍
Bill ********
Ill send you a account number. This account is trued and texted.
Anne *******
I am wondering if you have to pay tax for it under the new rule?
Peter ********
@Anne ******
What new rule????
Norbert ***********
@Anne ******
declare it as credit ,is taxfree then.
Ken ******
@Anne ******
found this,

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Gregory ********
@Anne ******
no —capital coming in from his own account
James *******
Depends where you live. Moneygram is the best in terms of rates from the UK for example.
John ********
@James ******
Money grab, right ripoff
James *******
@John *******
they are better than wise from UK
Roy ********
I think the limit is 2 million baht per transaction. Wise
John ********
@Roy *******
From the UK £10 grand per transaction.
John *******
Been using Wise for years now, never let me down, move my pension money from UK to Thailand every month as well 🙏🤠
Gregory ********
Normal bank channels—why should it be different—swift👍👍👍
John *********
Wise
Linz ************
Another Wise user here👍🏼
Robert *****
Remity dot com
Pascal *****
install WISE app on your smartphone ☑️🔥☑️
Gregory ********
@Asia ******
not out sending its about the rate you get
Giovanni ****************
Wise or just a regular bank transfer
Sean ********
I use Wise. Remember to select “funds for long stay in Thailand” if you plan on using it for a long stay visa or the transfer may not be valid on your application as the funds must show origin from outside of the country.
Norbert ***********
@Sean *******
this only true if you need it for buy real estate
Ken ******
also, any impact or tax liability arising out of new tax law starting jan 2024 for remittance of money into thailand? especially if large sum, for example, buying real estate
Norbert ***********
@Ken *****
you have to declare it as credit (i make it so, to buy real estate),then it is taxfree.
Ken ******
anyone who can confirm that WISE can be used for property purchase in thailand, insteaD of using traditional bank for transfer? (in order to get a FET for registering title deed in land office)
Ken ******
@Sean *******
there is now such menu on WISE? i never notice it before
Norbert ***********
@Ken *****
yes ,there is.
Sean ********
Yes when you do a transfer there is a window which pops up listing. what the money is being used for. I wonder if that is just for US citizens?
Kool *******
The best is doing a SWIFT transfers between your home bank, and your Thai bank. Then there will never be any question of where it came from, and easy to transfer it out of Thailand if you ever choose to do so.
Ross **********
@Kool ******
but the exchange rate isn’t very good
John *********
@Kool ******
If you like wasting money.
Dennis *********
@Kool ******
chase bank in usa is very expensive doing swift. Crazy expensive
Michael **********
@Dennis ********
you have to watch Chase as they want to transfer the money in Thai Baht before sending it and give terrible exchange rates so WHEN I do use Chase it's for large sums ($5-$ 9000) and I select to send it in US dollars and just pay their transfer fee and Bangkok Banks' fee which together total about $60 US. I have never had problems even when I sent $25,000 4 times in a 2 week period doing this but that was 3 years ago.
Kool *******
@Dennis ********
from his very limited profile, he doesn't seem to be from the US.
Dennis *********
@Kool ******
I'm just saying that one needs to be careful with Swift and best to inquire at one's bank vs just saying that it's the best

Been stung a few times with "best" for some in the past...

Example: how to avoid atm fees in Thailand. Oh if you have bank account f

Go into bank with atm card and do a transfer with a bank teller. Did that one, resulting in chase charging me 8.5% atm used not at an atm, and another 8.5% foreign translation fees, but yeah didn't have to pay any atm fee. However I was like #*$&%*
Tim *********
Chase charges 10% for ATM transfers. I use my BofA and Wells Fargo. they charge a max $5.00
Giovanni ****************
@Kool ******
this is particularly true if you buy a property.
Peter *********
Wise
Wayne *********
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I used this company when I purchased my condo
Dennis *********
@Wayne ********
doesn't the 1st part " send us the money " also cost something when doing the transfer from bank to them. Also I'm from us and would be some currency conversion and time to send this company my us dollars I'd think 🤔
Wayne *********
@Dennis ********
nope did not cost anything to transfer it to them. Sorry but I gave my aussie experience. Your post didnt say a country or a currency.

I would look into a registered exchange company and get quotes. They killed wise when I used them and it was much more than required than the 800,000baht
John *********
Wait a minute! What country is the money coming from? If it is the USA, I have transferred many times, and many amounts to Thailand. Every time I transferred $10k or a bit more, it was the same as shining the (gotta research this person) spotlight on my wife and I. It was the bank, they reported it to the government. Then, you are suspected of money laundering. You don’t want that. Stay under $10k per day. Recommend transfer $9k or less for as often as possible and there will be no extra scrutiny on you. Just sayin’.
Markus **********
@John ********
same applies for the EU
Byron ******
I use Currency Fair for transfers from Australia to Thailand. The best rates & you can pick up the phone & easily talk to a real person if you wish. Download the app & compare their rates.
John **********
@Byron *****
Wise still a better rate
Iain ******
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Mattie ********
@Iain *****
need your passcode
Natt *********
@Iain *****
I need your ssn#😁
Lee ***********
@Iain *****
just sent 1tb
Roy ********
@Iain *****
can I have the last 3 digits on the back of the card 😂
Iain ******
Gregory *******
@Iain *****
hahahaha
Mile *********
Can I transfer from any country to any country using wise ?
Wylie *******
@Mile ********
no. I don't have the list, but for instance you can transfer into Thailand but not out of thailand using wise. At least for US dollars, perhaps it's different for other currencies.
Keith ************
@Mile ********
many countries, but not every country.
Paul ********
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Will wise allow in one go or a little at a time
Ian *****************
@Paul *******
depends on what bank kasicorn and Bangkok bank 2 million but Krungsri ( yellow bank ) only 50,000 and some others
Paul ********
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Thanks all I Have kasikorn account and wise
Todd *********
@Paul *******
Then one go of 800k is no problem
Brian **********
@Todd ********
just if it doesn’t get there 🤗
Beverly **********
@Paul *******
Kasikorn is one of the three.
Wylie *******
@Paul *******
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Wylie *******
@Paul *******
you can do it in one go, but it has to be 1 of 3 thai banks. Any other bank is limited to 50,000 baht per transfer.
John *********
John ********
John ********
I have a bank account you can use
John ********
@John *******
Me too if yours gets too full 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Graham *******
must be in a Thai bank in your name, you can use swift transfer or wise. Remember you might end up paying tax on that money
Nongnuch ********
Graham Heyes if the money is from your inventory assets, Thailand will not taxate it. However you might be asked to prove that you had this much money in your accounts before
Gianni ******
Transfer to a thai lady, she will deal with it
Tj *************
Tj *************
@Gianni *****
Yeah transfer to a Thai lady shall take all your ruddy money and you won't see it again
Gianni ******
Blimey

I had not fully realised how good a reputation Thai ladies have until I saw your smilies
Lenny ******
I'm Interested what the limitation is please too transfer from Aussie bank too wise account I. Thailand
Wylie *******
@Lenny *****
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Dennis *********
@Lenny *****
not certain if there's an actual limit, however anything over 49,999 per days will result in several days hold i recall it was about 1 week or more
Phil ******
@Dennis ********
there is with some banks in Thailand
Aake **********
@Dennis ********
2 milion bath if you have Bangkok Bank
Lenny ******
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Tj ************
what do you mean
Tj *************
Tj *************
Phil Beer not to be trusted you be Cautious as well as key Visa Darren another not to be trusted messed us around so many times if I had my way. I had to get a British solicitor involved absolute waste of time them too I think you'll find most of them are More entirely their Only in it for the Money
ไทเลอร์ **********
Wise
Stuart ***********
I used Wise.
Richard ********
Frank-Steven ***********
Wise:
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