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How does UK tax residency impact pension uprating for expats in the Philippines and Thailand?

JP **********
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From the expats in the Philippines. Someone posted here about resident visa in the Philippines to uprate their pension for Brits.
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The discussion revolves around how UK pensions can be uprated through tax residency in the Philippines for expatriates, particularly Brits. It highlights that being a tax resident in the Philippines can allow pension uprating after residing there for over 183 days. The conversation also touches on visa extensions in the Philippines, the misconceptions regarding residency, and the implications for pensions when living in Thailand, where pensions may be 'frozen' unless certain residency and tax agreements are met.
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Nigel *********
Nigel *********
What has this got to do with Thailand?
Pete *******
Pete *******
@Nigel *********************
If you retire to Thailand your UK pension is frozen. The only way to unfreeze your UK pension and get the uprated rate is to be tax resident in a country that has a bilateral agreement with the UK government.
Pete *******
Pete *******
Hello, OP here, I think you have misunderstood my comment. I was not talking about getting residency in the Philippines. If you are TAX resident in the Philippines then you will get an yearly uprated UK pension. According to UK TAX residency rules you can claim tax residency of the country you are in after 183days (Approx 6 months and 1 day) Hope this clears it up…
JP **********
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@Pete ******
oh hi Pete, yes not talking about residency in PH but as being tax there, you have to hold a TIN through business or property ownership which also same grants you as resident status. Am I right?
Pete *******
Pete *******
@Shin ****
No, nothing to do with Philippine law. Topic is UK law regarding Uk pensions being uprated via tax residency in the Philippines.
Deanna *******
Deanna *******
My Mom lives in the PH. You must get visa extensions for 3 years, then you can stop. If at any time you leave the country, you will be charged 20k pesos. That's it. No red stamp, no black list.

The ads online are from crooked "visa agents" trying to sell expensive options.

I've actually been through all this with my Mom (she has Alzheimer's).

For accurate answers, you can private message the PH Immigration office on FB. It's the best way to reach them.
Deanna *******
Deanna *******
@Oliver *********
Please send immigration a message. They will best guide you.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Oliver *********
she is incorrect
Oliver **********
Oliver **********
@Deanna ******
Is this a retirement visa? So every time you travel you have to pay 20k pesos?
Deanna *******
Deanna *******
Phil Jones it's what immigration told me.
Charles ********
Charles ********
They were probably talking about different things. The rules of one country to determine your residency based on taxes has little to do the visa you have in another.
Av **********
Av **********
U know it is so much cheaper and easier to immigrate to such places as Portugal these days....in PT u have to show u can make the minimum wage of 700 euros a month lol that's it really..after a few years u get citizenship.

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