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What is the HMRC tax status for retired UK citizens living in Thailand?
HMRCTax StatusUK PensionThailand ExpatRetired UK CitizensTax ResidencyTax DomicileDouble Taxation Agreement
Jun 22, 2022
4 years ago
Mark *******
ORIGINAL POSTERDoes anyone know anything about HMRC tax status of retired UK people living in Thailand
TLDR : Answer Summary
Retired UK citizens living in Thailand are considered UK taxpayers, and their private pensions are taxed in the UK. Although state pensions do not increase while living abroad, the UK has agreements with Thailand regarding tax payments. If retirees do not enter the UK for over 90 days in a year, they may be eligible to claim back certain taxes under specific conditions, especially if they have no other income from the UK.
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Paul ********
Thailand have an agreement with the Uk that your private pension tax is paid in the Uk and your state pension never increases because you live abroad.
I have been through all this with specialist tax accounts
I have been through all this with specialist tax accounts
Paul ********
This is what the gov website puts down. Now I owned a company in the Uk and my accountant was with me for 35 years and saved me loads. If there was a will he would find a way
Chris *********************
@Paul *******
if you take a lump some pay your tax move abroad you can claim the tax that you paid if you are then a none tax paying uk residentChris *********************
I took it in a lump sum not monthly
Paul ********
@Chris ********************
well try it and show me your rebate?Chris *********************
@Paul *******
that's the information I got when I took my private pension when I was 55.then I got told couldn't claim rebate because it was the next tax year. Only going on what I was toldReply to
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@Paul *******
so what if you take your pension in a lump some pay your taxes on it move out of the uk and then make yourself a none tax paying citizen. If you don't enter the uk for more than 90 days a year you can claim that tax back if you claim in the same year as long as you have no other interests paying you money
John **********
@Chris ********************
if you have income in the UK you pay tax in the UK. If you have income from outside of the UK it depends on where your domicile is. Domicile will depend on links to the UK but it isn't easy to changeChris *********************
@John *********
that's what I'm trying to say if you don't have any other incomeJohn **********
@Chris ********************
am I missing something? If you have no income you have no tax to payReply to
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Paul ********
@Chris ********************
I have sent you the extract on messengerPaul ********
@Chris ********************
no I will send you a link to see what it sayReply to
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Chris *********************
Depending on what pension you getting, state or private
Mark *******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Chris ********************
PrivateChris *********************
@Mark ******
iv pm youMark *******
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John **********
You remain a UK tax payer, no change in status.
Andy ******
I declared my status to them before I left the UK in 2017 as living in Thailand permanent
Mark *******
ORIGINAL POSTERDerek Walton
I'm talking about a private pension .
It seems reasonable to pay foreign tax on a private pension if I spend
I'm talking about a private pension .
It seems reasonable to pay foreign tax on a private pension if I spend
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in and out of the countryReply to
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Lisa ********************
I get my pensions etc, paid into UK bank account. And draw out in Thailand
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