What are the visa and tax implications for Australian non-residents living and working in Thailand?

Feb 16, 2018
7 years ago
Maurice *******
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Looking for Visa and Australian non residency advise from Ozzie expat living in Thailand and working O/S TIA.
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This discussion focuses on the implications of tax and residency for Australians living in Thailand. It includes advice about registering as a non-resident with the ATO, potential tax liabilities for non-residents, and managing income received from Australia while living overseas. Participants share personal insights about tax obligations, banking options, and property management in Australia.
David *******
In Oz they tax you if paid in Oz and work abroad and non res? I am UK non res paid in uk and dont pay tax not even on rented house as it is below the tax free allowance allowance.
Michael ********
They changed the law in 2009 to assess each person as a resident or NON resident.....if assessed as a resident you pay tax on any working income you make anywhere in the world.
Michael ********
If work, live and paid in Oz as a resident you get full tax but you get a tax free threshold. If NON resident, work and paid from outside outside of the country for 180 days of the year. Then you pay no income tax and get no tax free threshold (I believe in UK you still get this) and no superannuation. All NON resident income (ie rental)originating in Oz is charged at 32.5 % from the first dollar and goes up above a certain amount.......but why would you want to pay 47% income tax if living and working outside of Australia.....Biggest thing I miss I suppose is the superannuation payments....but then when you go to use them later....they are taxed too.....I am way better off on an expat salary and tax free....I will make my own tax free retirement.
Glen *********
As a non-resident doesn’t he have to pay 30% tax, but as a resident he gets the Tax Free Threshold - so why would he want to say he’s non-resident?
Maurice *******
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good info thanks guys
Michael ********
Yes but if you are a NON resident and work and get paid outside of Austalia you do not pay any work income tax at all. The taxes you pay are only on rental income that originates from inside of Australia. So you save 40 - 47% on all of your work income which, if you get paid well, outweighs the tax free threshold and Super combined.
Mark ********
In fact the non-resident tax rate is worse than the 30% flat rate that was mentioned above. It's currently 32.5% on income up to $87K, and then a higher rate of 37% kicks in on income above $87K.
Maurice *******
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@Glen ********
yea i dont intend or have any income in australia
Glen *********
Maurice Behan but if you have any income within Australia such as super pension etc...then as Non-resident you are subject to 30% tax with no tax free threshold.

So unless all your income comes from sources outside Australia you will be worse off if you claim non-resident status in Australia, so it really depends where your income is derived.
Maurice *******
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its what people do when a country overtaxes its people, go 'live somewhere they dont.
Maurice *******
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tax free threshold is only worth 19 K , being a non resident and not liable for tax in Australia is more beneficial by far.
Glen *********
@Maurice ******
of Australia
Maurice *******
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Non Resident of Australia you mean or Thailand ?
Michael ********
For tax issues....Register as a NON resident with the ATO. Get a bank account outside of Oz and get your pay sent to it. Stay out of the country for 182 days a year. If you have a house in Oz, rent it out or sell it. Lodge a tax return every year. That is all I can think of...for visa....I don't know how old you are....
Michael ********
You have previously I recall... :)
Maurice *******
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Michael can i pm you pls ?
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