Do I need to show proof of onward travel to enter Thailand without a visa?

It would be very difficult to fly from the UK and not lose a day to Thailand, I wish I could show you my passport as proof.

@Al**

maybe you are just trolling, I am just trying to explain this as it is a common source of confusion, 30 days is 30 days but you have to count both the day you arrive and the day you leave in that 30 days, it's as simple as that and has nothing to do with anything else, time zones, length of your flight, the views of the consulate in Cardiff or your expat mates.

Have you been drinking the Thai whiskey

@Al**

no, that's irrelevant. All that matters is what day it is *in Thailand* when you stamp into Thailand. How long your flight took to get here or how many time zones or days it took or where you came from is completely irrelevant. You could get a boat here and take three weeks and you would still get 30 days on arrival.

Yes mate and it says +1day so it means flying from the UK we're actually losing a day , that's why it's 29 days.

@Al**

the time difference makes NO difference, it's irrelevant. Yes the 30 days is a single entry.

Time difference ok, and the lol 30 days is a single entry?

@Al**

how many days are there in a week? The way you put it is misleading, suggesting you "lose a day" because of the long flight from the UK. That's not the reason. It's simply counting the number of days. It makes no difference if you get on the flight from the UK the day before, or take a 1 hour flight the same day from Malaysia, or cross over a land border same day from Laos or Cambodia... in every case, you will get the same 30 days starting the day your passport is stamped. The law says 30 days, everyone gets 30 days, and the people who think it is 29 days are simply counting wrong. Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun - how many days is that? 6 or 7?

So how do you explain this when I know IV been veted in imagragion at survanarboon.

@Ivan ***********

my Thai consulate in Cardiff Wales told me numerous times, and all my expats friends agree with me , anyway it's a subject that all could talk about for a long time, xx

@Al**

the law says 30 days and 30 days is what you get. She can go out into Burma and return by land twice per year without issue without a visa, I did it myself twice this year. She can extend the 30 days to 60 in Thailand as well if she needed to. I agree with you the METV saves a lot of hassle and is very advisable if you think you want to stay longer than three months but she only wants to stay 3-4 weeks so she really doesn't need it. The site you quoted above is not the Thai consulate, it's some random blog that like many misunderstands how to count visa days.

@Ivan ***********

I'm just stating what the law says, uk and Thailand mate, thanks for the education ok.

Ok mate but it's what my local Thai consulate briefs me on every time I visit Thailand , and if

@Karen *****************

has a 30 day stay,lol it's called a one entry so if she goes out of the country , say Burma the chances are they won't let her back into Thailand, etc, personally I would get a multi visa for a year, it's 125 pound and there's now worries about crossing borders , I hope this has been a help xx

@Al**

the way that site puts it is misleading, it's not "actually just 29 days". It's 30 days. It's just that people count that 30 days wrong.

Put it this way: if you arrive on a Monday, and stay until Sunday, how many days is that? It's 6 nights but it's 7 days, and it is the days that are being counted. Any part of a day counts. The point is you can't just add 30 to the date you arrive, but that doesn't mean it's "officially" one thing and "actually just" another, it means that people can't count right.

This isn't a Thailand thing, every other country counts their visas the same way. It's just people don't realise how to count it. I don't blame them either it's not immediately obvious if you don't think about it and the natural thing is just to "add" the 30 days. But that would mean you would be 31 days in the country.

Do you agree mate, I was only told this last year and I was surprised.

A better way of putting it is that the day you arrive in the country is day 1, not day zero. You don't "lose a day" flying over, it starts from when your passport is stamped in Thailand and when you got on the plane is irrelevant. But many people just add 30 to their arrival date, not counting it (1+30=31).

Not I.

That photo is on thia visa advice on the photo page.

what I said I got of the thai customs page

@Jonathan ***************

. Was that at Swampy? Nothing is getting easier.

I actually saw signs like that when I arrived on Friday. Cant remember the exact wording of them though - wish Id taken a picture.

What the hell is your problem Ron? She pointed out that the company had closed and had a horrible reputation - why are you attacking her??

And another thing. Tell her not too send me message requests. I'm not interested in her.

Yeah real classy Ron. Your ass has been reported and blocked. Asshole!!!

Don't try and be clever with me you silly bitch.

You knew exactly what you was doing.

Your not that smart or you would teaching in the US rather than here like the rest of the failures that cannot get a job back where you came from.

Thanks,

@Jonathan ***************

. Some people. SMDH

Ron...she literally posted a link to a review website that said fly onwards is a terrible company. She is not promoting them - she is warning people to stay away from them. Im not sure where the confusion is coming in?

AGAIN!

Yeah looks like I'M the one posting it.

Right 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

I need to read nothing carefully. Your posting links helping people to buy fake tickets.

@Ron ******

I posted links that showed Fly Onward is NOT reliable in response to people who were promoting them. Read carefully next time before you start accusing!!!

But your quite happy to post links to fake ticket sites?

It truly is a roll of the dice. Up to OP whether she wants to play Russian Roulette. Me personally, I would hate to stand in that immigration queue and sweat as if I've a kilo of blow up my arse. 😂

Maybe you will get asked to show it maybe not.

That's what it says

Karen, it's a visa exempt!

@Karen *****************

. Didn't know that they sold E visa yet.

Craig, a tv is good for 60 days so one would hardly be expected to show an onward ticket after just 30,would they?!

@Jim ******

. Good idea that one

I've had a visa everytime, and was asked only once leaving NZ,and by what seemed to be new check-in person.Just explained that the Thai embassy sold it to me having viewed my itinerary. Not a problem then. There's always the option of signing a waver too.

So maybe they are one of the countries that don't check or the staff was not trained. Good to know

That's not true. I left Malaysia, went into Thailand without presenting them any return flight. I left Canada, flew to Thailand, and they did not ask for a return flight.

Don't lose your phone karen

You can always change your ticket I did

LHR too

Funny all the long staying tourists in this group ;-)

@Dario *********

same here. 12 years on metv and tourist 30 days.. never asked for return ticket..

10 years coming with METV. Never once had a return booked.

I have been asked a number of times from Perth Australia with Thai airways.

Flew in from Chennai in October on Thai Airways. Nobody asked. It may depend on your nationality too, as the Thai consulate in Chennai asks for it if you apply for a visa there.

My pleasure and safe travels.

I’ve been lucky over 30 times... Wow, I should start doing the lottery.

Karen, you should check with your airline for the most accurate answer.

From which airports in those countries? Not all follow the same policies...

You've been lucky, that's all.

I do believe they will let you fly with a 60 day visa in your passport without a return ticket.

but no visa you might not get of the ground.