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Can you obtain a Pink ID card in Thailand while on a non-resident DTV visa?
Has anyone managed to get a Pink ID card (not the blue one for Thais) while living in Thailand on a non-resident visa such as DTV?
I need one solely for some identity verification as my Thai driving lisences are no longer accepted like before. I understand this would have to be done through an agency if possible but atm I'm assuming it can't be done unless you have resident status? I also own a property here so not sure if that helps. Thanks. Expecting plenty of laughing emojis but I need to ask just incase 🙂.
I need one solely for some identity verification as my Thai driving lisences are no longer accepted like before. I understand this would have to be done through an agency if possible but atm I'm assuming it can't be done unless you have resident status? I also own a property here so not sure if that helps. Thanks. Expecting plenty of laughing emojis but I need to ask just incase 🙂.
Answer summary
The discussion focuses on whether expats can acquire a Pink ID card while on a non-resident DTV visa in Thailand. It seems that obtaining a Yellow House Book is a crucial first step, which sometimes requires a valid visa or residency status. However, experiences vary by location; some individuals have reported successfully receiving a Pink ID with a DTV visa if they meet certain requirements, like owning property. Different Amphur offices may have differing rules, and assistance from a Thai friend or spouse can be beneficial.
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John ********
Every Amphur has its own rules. In my case it was all done in a few hours. Get the yellow book and then get the pink card. I went with my Thai wife who has a blue book which is a big advantage. This was just 2 years ago. But it will depend on the local official and what the local rules are.
Andrew ********
I have a pink id card and yellow house book with just 12 month retirement visa. Took a few visits and the head of the villages recommendation but got there eventually. Good luck. Not easy to get nowadays. Mine was a few years ago. 😎🌞⚓
Simon *********
If you own a property, you should have a yellow house book. Part of the process for the yellow book, is registering you on the thai ID system. The yellow book is registered to your thai id number. The pink id card is usually issued with the yellow book, but if not, you can take the yellow book to the amphur and ask for a pink ID
DorkyB******
On the back of the pink card it actually says that the card is not official identification, lol
Fred ******
Biggest hassle getting a yellow book is going to yr embassy, get certified copy of yr passport,off to Ministry of Foreign Affairs have certified passport copy translated to thai,lodge the paperwork then have it sent to yr home address.
Damo ******
Why is your Thai driving licence not accepted as valid ID ?
Dino ***********
Been waiting for pink ID card first you need a yellow book then pink card can be issued straight away the thing you need to apply for is a yellow book
David *******
I'm on a LTR visa. Got a yellow book (requirements were Thai translation of birth certificate and passport, and several trips to the District office). Once i was given the yellow book, they gave me the pink ID card. With that i was able to get a loan and buy a car in my name (30% down. Normally 25% down for foreigners, but since i'm over 60 had to put 30% down).
Kalle *************
Yes
David *******
If you have a housebook.
Lance *******
Yes it easy
Bennett ********
Related question: we own a condo in BKK, both foreigners, and we were given a blue book, not a yellow one. Does this matter? (Our condo was last sold so long ago it didn't have a blue book. You need the account number to report in to immigration.) Our building manager took us to the local office, they issued a blue book. Clearly they saw we are both foreigners, with foreign passports. No mention of yellow. Any idea? Thanks!
John ***********
One thing you do need is your birth certificate
Darren ********************
OPJohn Parkinson Original? Mine is back in the Uk. I guess. I've not needed it for a very long time.
John ***********
Darren 'Griff' Griffiths I had to get in touch with Somerset House to get a copy
If you are in Pattaya they are very helpful just ask if it will be acceptable
But if you have to go to Banglamung like I did not so helpful
If you are in Pattaya they are very helpful just ask if it will be acceptable
But if you have to go to Banglamung like I did not so helpful
Todd *********
these are always interesting. Do you have a specific use planned for it? We are here 6 years and have yet to see a possible use for it?
เดแคลน ***********
Go to your local Amphere with your yellow book and request a pink ID. In theory you shouldn't have any issues getting one but like everything in thailand it depends on not just the person you see but also the location you go to as to whether you will be able to actually get it.
I know a couple of people who managed to get one while on a VE, and i know 1 who couldn't get one on a VE and was told to go get a long term visa first.
I know a couple of people who managed to get one while on a VE, and i know 1 who couldn't get one on a VE and was told to go get a long term visa first.
John *******
Get a yellow book then same day get your pink id
Got my Dtv in Jan may got driving licence June got my motorbike yellow book pink id
Yes last year da
Got my Dtv in Jan may got driving licence June got my motorbike yellow book pink id
Yes last year da
Max ********
I have a pink I D card and all I have ever been is a tourist also have a yellow house book.
Paul *******
Max Murray so your not a tourist then
Max ********
Paul Jones so what would you say I was,I do not have a visa and do not live in Thailand. The most time I have ever spent in Thailand in one year is about 87 days?
Robert **********
I would advise you take your blue book to your local Amphur and a Thai friend too and ask for thier requirements
Each Amphur may have differing requirements
Each Amphur may have differing requirements
Billy ********
Yes I have and yellow book
Darren ********************
OPBilly Dawson Which visa do you have? I'm curious if my DTV status restricts me despite owning property.
Duncan *******
You need a yellow tabian baan first and for that, you will need the support of the owner of where you are staying and, in my case, I also had to have the village head sign forms as well. It took me a month and multiple visits to the local district office. Once you get the yellow book, pink card is easy.
John *********
@Duncan ******
I got the yellow house book and they didn’t want it to get the I D card because they didn’t want to give me the pink ID with a Non-O marriage visa in my passport.I needed the mayor (village head) to go to the office to persuade them to give it to me. No money exchanged hands. Without the mayor I would not have been successful.
Gregory *******
@Duncan ******
and passport translation witch to do is 2 hours away.Mick *****
Look Ma finally a correct answer. I concur with this and yes it matters not what Visa you are on it depends entirely on your living situation. Yellow book took a while. The lady that did my yellow book actually prepared all the paperwork for pink ID too. All I had to do was come back on a Thursday - Bang Lamung only do Pink card on a Thursday after 3PM.
Darren ********************
OPMick Lor Thanks Mick. Bang Lamung would be my local office too having ownership of a condo in Pattaya which I also live in.
Jozef *********
@Duncan ******
how long is the pink card valid for?
Jørgen ********
Jozef Zygadlo I can not remember, but think it is 10 years. I was 70 when I got mine, and that is valid for the rest of my life.
Can not remember how old you have to be, for it to be Valid for the rest of your life.
Can not remember how old you have to be, for it to be Valid for the rest of your life.
Darren ********************
OP@Duncan ******
Do you mean the owner of my condo building? I'm the owner of my condo unit.
Scott ******
@Duncan ******
100% correct.Gerar ********
A DTV visa is a tourist visa and not accepted for a Pink ID card application.
You need at least a Non-O visa/extension.
And the yellow house etc etc.
You need at least a Non-O visa/extension.
And the yellow house etc etc.
Darren ********************
OPGerar Teuben Some here are saying I just need the yellow house book for the condo I own. Are you sure my DTV restricts me from getting the pink card?
Mick *****
Luck no. Official restriction no. Agents no. Yes having a long term visa is one path way of getting a yellow book it is not the one and only. if you are married to a Thai citizen and own free hold property you can apply without a long term visa. I am both married to a Thai citizen (12 years) and own free hold property. It was actually the lady at the Amphur that suggested we apply when we registered our marriage and got the Kor Ror 22. She did not seem to care about the visa at all, marriage was enough. A lot of people also believe there is also some regulation that you cannot open a bank account on a DTV. That is also not true under the right circumstances you can. There is nothing in law or regulation to say you can't although some banks do have a policy against it.
Roger **********
Darren 'Griff' Griffiths you need a yellow house book before a Pink Card will be considered. Both are issued at local Government level.
I cannot say about DTV, but is possible to get with the non-o visa. The documents are useful
Unfortunately, unlike the Thai blue id’s, the pink ones do not have electronic biometric chip.
I cannot say about DTV, but is possible to get with the non-o visa. The documents are useful
Unfortunately, unlike the Thai blue id’s, the pink ones do not have electronic biometric chip.
Mick *****
Nope absolutely wrong - I am on DTV and have my yellow book, pink ID and a full drivers license.
Darren ********************
OPMick Lor I also have a Thai drivers license on a DTV
Andrew **************
Gerar Teuben I am here on a DTV. I had no problem getting either the Yellow House book or the Pink ID card.
Steve******
Gerar Teuben I would bet that you cannot cite a single verifiable legal source, which supports your absolute statement. At least regarding the driving license.
Gerar ********
Then your very lucky as it isn’t officially allowed on a DTV visa but as mentioned some officials are more relaxed then others which is nothing unusual in Thailand. 😂
Gerar ********
So far I know yes, as you need a Non-O visa to get the pink ID card officially.
Same as you can’t get a full Thai driving license on a DTV visa.
But I would go to the land office so see if you can get the Yellow housebook and after check at the local city hall if you qualify for the pink ID card. You never know and I heard strangers stories. 😊
Same as you can’t get a full Thai driving license on a DTV visa.
But I would go to the land office so see if you can get the Yellow housebook and after check at the local city hall if you qualify for the pink ID card. You never know and I heard strangers stories. 😊
Elías ********
Gerar Teuben Are you sure? I'd assume that a DTVer with a yellow book wouldn't have trouble getting a pink card if they wanted?
Tim ******
I got one and didn’t even have a visa. Was in getting house registered/ change wife’s id address and guy asked if I wanted one. Pretty lucky just paid yea money and needed the village boss to sign some pictures and got another old guy to sign as a witness. Got yellow book and pink id.
You were lucky to get a license without one maybe
You were lucky to get a license without one maybe
Moses *********
I have a follow up question not exactly related to your question. Once one gets resident status does that automatically make one a ‘tax citizen’ of Thailand?
Jim *********
@Moses ********
If you are in Thailand for more than 180 days in a calendar year, you are supposed to get a Tax ID number and file income taxes here.
Hǝınz ***********
Jim McGowan more than 179 days to be precise. 😄
Moses *********
Jim McGowan
Thank you
Thank you
John **********
If you own a property, I assume a condo in your name, you can get a yellow house book. If you have a yellow house book you can get a pink ID card.
Ja***
@John *********
Not necessarily. Every Amphur has its own rules. In my case I was unable to get a yellow house book for a condo I own because my Amphur office requires a visa or extension of stay with a minimum 1 year stamp. Also, you don't need to own a condo to get a yellow house book. I've heard of people getting one while renting a property (with assistance from their landlord).John **********
James If you are married to a Thai you can also get one but if you're not it's difficult
Darren ********************
OP@John *********
Yes I own a condo in my name. Where do I obtain the yellow house book?
Adam *******
Darren 'Griff' Griffiths I had to go to land office for yellow book (long process) then to Amphur to get the pink id 🪪
Roger **********
Adam Brown That is correct - both Yellow Tabien Baan and pink card are from the Amphur. It is more complex to get, than wen I did years ago. The Amphur, responsible for Land tax, will also send you a tax bill (only a few THB worth)
Dino ***********
Adam Brown all done at the ampur for me yellow book and after pink card should hopefully be able to pick them up next month
Sean *************
Mine took about 6-8 months
Darren ********************
OPAdam Brown How long did it take from going to the land office to holding the pink card in your hand?
BC ********
Adam Brown was a long time ago in my case, but I also remember going to the land office for my yellow book and a later day going to the district office for the pink card.
There was also a house visit (condo visit) from 2 officials who verified everything, took pictures and needed a witness. They just sneakily coaxed someone from the juristic of my building to sign as my witness.
There was also a house visit (condo visit) from 2 officials who verified everything, took pictures and needed a witness. They just sneakily coaxed someone from the juristic of my building to sign as my witness.
John **********
@Darren *******************
When you bought the condo you probably (should have) got a blue book for the condo but with no name in it. That's because foreigners can't go in blue house books, they go in yellow house books. Your local Amphur should be able to sort you out. If they give you a yellow book just ask for the pink ID card at the same timeDarren ********************
OP@John *********
Yes I have the blue book. Ok thanks for that advice John 🙏 I'll look into the next steps.
Pui *****
Who is no longer accepting your Thai driver's license as ID?
Darren ********************
OPPui Suu My brokerage account that I've been using the past 2 years here.
Pui *****
Darren 'Griff' Griffiths may I ask why your brokerage account would need something other than your passport? If it is to show residence address, I imagine a certificate of residence from immigration would do the same thing.
Pui *****
Darren 'Griff' Griffiths I appreciate the clarification about the unusual circumstances why you would need it. Just wanted to be sure some major common government agency or other institution that accepted Thai driver's licenses as IDs didn't suddenly stop doing so.
Darren ********************
OPPui Suu Because I have two accounts and the other is already attached to my British passport. Long story why I need two accounts 🙂 Passport account is heavily restricted.
John ********
Doubt you can get on a dtv ... I needed things like yellow housebook blabla
Mick *****
I'm on DTV have my yellow book, pink ID.
Elías ********
John Fitton you can get a yellow house book on the DTV too, it doesn't matter what visa you're in actually, IF you meet the criteria for the yellow book
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