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Can I apply for a Thai Pass with a 60-day return ticket and a visa on arrival for 30 days?

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Mar 21, 2022

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Brendan ********

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Wondered if I bought a 60 day return ticket and applied for Thai pass under ‘visa on arrival’ which is 30 days renewable. Would it be declined? Would I need to have a two month insurance booked?

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The original question involves confusion between the types of entry into Thailand: 'visa on arrival' (VoA) and 'visa exemption'. The consensus is that a VoA is valid for only 15 days and non-renewable, while the visa exemption allows for a 30-day stay and can sometimes be extended. For entry on a visa exemption, insurance for 1 month is necessary, and a return ticket must align with the 30-day period to avoid issues.

Stan *******

I do wish people would stop calling a visa exemption a bloody ‘visa on arrival’. It’s NOT.

They are totally different things. A VoA is only for 15 days for a limited number of countries and has to be paid for and cannot be extended.

A Visa Exemption is for 30 days and is free for citizens of over 50 countries and can be extended ONCE for a further 30 days. Grrr! 😀

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You don't seem to understand what people are trying to tell you. You can't get a 30 day visa on arrival. There is no such thing. The visa on arrival is only 15 days and only about 20 countries qualify like India and China. Many more countries qualify for 30 day visa exempt entry, which is NOT a visa on arrival. It is a "no visa" option where you get stamped in without needing to buy a visa on arrival. The nationalities that require visa on arrival for 15 days have to PAY for a visa upon arrival in Thailand before being allowed in. You keep correcting people trying to explain this to you, that you entered before via 30 day visa exempt, NOT visa on arrival. Look in your passport. You didn't get a visa when you arrived. You just got stamped in that you were exempt from a visa.

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Martin *********

i know that your being pedantic. Call it a visa or what you like it gives you 30 days .i am in Thailand ive been coming here 25 years so i worded it wrong and you obviously never read his question. Read what he's asking ive just done excacly what he's asked 3 weeks ago

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@Martin ********

They're not being pedantic since some countries are only eligible for visa on arrival and not visa exemption, and we don't know where the op is from. You obviously didn't read the question either because the op stated they are entering on a "visa on arrival". The wording matters, and that is what they stated. If that is in fact the case the visa on arrival is only valid for 15 days, not 30 as you keep saying, and can only be extended by 7 days. What is essentially the extension denial and giving you an additional 7 days to make plans to leave the country. So if that is in fact what they are entering on it is pointless to book onward travel beyond that. But please continue to keep acting as if you know everything and everyone else on here correcting you is wrong.

You've been coming for 25 years and you don't even know the difference between visa on arrival and visa exemption or which one you have been entering on. If so many people keep correcting you saying the same thing, perhaps you should actually look into it instead of being stubborn, doubling down, and attacking people personally with these and other posts you've since deleted.

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Martin *********

Ive just done it no problems but you need the 60 day's insurance cover

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Brendan ********

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Thanks

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Garrett ***********

Visa on arrival is 15 days, not extendable. Visa exempt entry is 30 days. Your return ticket should match your initial entry validity date to avoid issues, refundable/changable tickets are fine.

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Wylie *******

@Martin ********

wow. I read your answer and have been through it. Yes, the check in staff ask because they are trying to interpret Thailands entry requirements. Just how educated do you think they are compared to the immigration officers when they have to read and interpret entry requirements for many, many countries?

You don't think that an immigration officer at the airport has the authority to ask the same questions? It's literally their one job. If they want to ask and demand you have a return ticket booked to leave before the entry stamp they give you expires they can. At that moment in time you are only legally allowed to stay for what they stamp you in for. There is no guarantee that you will be approved for an extension at a later date. Especially for an additional 60 days when the standard extension is 30. If it were they'd just stamp you in for 60 or 90 days right off the bat. It's likely, but no guarantee so if they're in a bad mood or simply just feel like it they can require you have a flight in that timeframe. The same goes for the requirement to have 20,000 baht or foreign equivalent in cash on you. I've never been asked and many, many others have never been asked. Yet, there are stories posted on here and other forums of people being denied entry because of it. Even showing they had money in the bank, even a Thai bank, wasn't adequate. They couldn't even go to an ATM and withdraw cash. Like I said both are rare, but it can and does happen.

You're sitting here getting all pissy and personal with people that obviously know more than you. Just because you and many others have never had a problem doesn't mean that is not the rule and that others haven't had a problem because of it. Grow up 🤡🤡🤡🤡

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Brendan ********

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@Garrett **********

Thanks for clarifying

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Steve *******

You'd only need 1 month insurance but you'd need return or onward travel within 30 days.

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Martin *********

he can exstend surely its better to have 60 days if you plan to extend

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Steve *******

@Martin ********

The OP CAN have 60 days but only 30 is required for the Thai Pass when entering visa exempt and insurance isnt required for the 30 days extention.

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Martin *********

no but advisable if you intended to stay longer surely.

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Steve *******

@Martin ********

Totally up to the OP but yes I agree, advisable.

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