Answereda year ago
Can DTV holders pay taxes and obtain a TIN in Thailand?
I have a question,
Has anyone on here successfully paid tax or got a TIN on a DTV ? Seems to be a lot of experts who can give clarity on the 180 day rule ext. but no one can say they have paid tax on a DTV.
I think all the people who are giving tax advice here are disgruntled Thailand keyboard warriors ๐ซก๐๐๐ฝ
Has anyone on here successfully paid tax or got a TIN on a DTV ? Seems to be a lot of experts who can give clarity on the 180 day rule ext. but no one can say they have paid tax on a DTV.
I think all the people who are giving tax advice here are disgruntled Thailand keyboard warriors ๐ซก๐๐๐ฝ
Answer summary
The discussion centers around the challenges and experiences of expats regarding paying taxes and obtaining a Tax Identification Number (TIN) while on a Thai DTV (Digital Nomad Visa). Some participants report successfully obtaining a TIN and filing taxes, while others believe that most expats on DTV will not need to pay taxes until 2026. There is skepticism regarding the benefits returned to expats for their taxes, as well as comments about the complexities of maintaining long-term residency with a DTV.
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Anonymous ******************
Last year, after staying in the Kingdom for 7 months on visa exemptions, went to the tax office with my gf and got a TIN (and paid taxes on the start of 2025). They looked at me weird - first farang that they have seen that wanted to do that but they didn't object. I was in and out in 30 minutes tops.
Anonymous ******************
They won't even let you open a bank account. What taxes? What are you kidding me?
Anonymous ******************
Yes and was even able to claim a tax refund.
Alex ********
But after paying these taxes, what does the government give us in return? Healthcare? Free schools for our farang children? Housing? Or a visa? Something else?
Anonymous ******************
@Alex *******
give back to the people! They build roads. Infrastructure and the country you live
Konstantin ******
@Alex *******
maybe that you live in the country and use the infrastructure Sherlock? ๐Alex ********
@Konstantin *****
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Hans-Georg ******
Would be difficult to stay > 180 days/year with DTV in Thailand. Therefore no tax resident.
Andrew ********
@Hans-Georg *****
very easy to spend more than 180 days in Thailand in the rax year on a DTV
Anonymous ******************
@Hans-Georg *****
Simply retain tax residency in your home country. After all, you're a tourist in Thailand, and tourists don't pay income tax
Craig *********
Anonymous participant 935 but โฆ if I file a P85 and revoke my tax residency. Then spend 180 days in Thailand then 180 in Indonesia , then a few days in Vietnam โฆ.. would I actually have to pay tax anywhere ?
Nick *******
Anonymous participant 935 ๐๐๐๐๐
Nick *******
Anonymous participant 935 you or him? I'm confused
Anonymous ******************
@Nick ******
Another fเธckwit! ๐๐๐Nick *******
@Hans-Georg *****
itโs not difficult at all. I donโt think you understand how DTV worksHans-Georg ******
@Nick ******
ok got it. Yes you are right.Nick *******
@Hans-Georg *****
probably best you donโt try to give advice on things you donโt understand - this group is meant to help people not mislead themAnonymous ******************
@Hans-Georg *****
why difficult? It's very easy actually
Elรญas ********
Participante anรณnimo 143 It depends on each person situation. For many DTVers, staying more than 180 days on a calendar year would be natural, while for many others, it's just not going to happen.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 143 It's 180 days in a calendar year, not 180 consecutive
Elรญas ********
Participante anรณnimo 143 It's not gonna happen because we/they don't have any intention to be continously here, not that the visa wouldn't allow it. 99.9% of the soft power MIGHT do that, but not common for the remote workers.
Anonymous ******************
@Elรญas *******
why? They just need to stay here 180 days, go out of the country and come back. I believe 99.9% of us will do it.Elรญas ********
By "giving tax advise" you mean those saying we need to pay, or those saying we don't need to pay? ๐คช
Pete *******
First tax filing for DTV holders will be by end of March 2026.
Anonymous ******************
Love it! "Successfully" paid tax!!! ๐ I've successfully avoided paying tax - does that count? ๐
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 308 You're amazing! ๐ Implementation of Taxation on Remittances from January 1, 2024. DTV Visa launched July 15, 2024... You're definitely an "expert" of tax evasion ๐ Keep doing for the next 10 years.
Mo *****
Anonymous participant 734 also draft awaiting royal decree to allow remittances tax free.. always best to keep ahead of the game
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 734 I know the difference between "tax avoidance" and "tax evasion" which means I'm well ahead of you. I've actually lived in Thailand for 15 years and never paid a single baht in income tax - and perfectly legal! Those that are so excited to pay tax go ahead, pay tax in Thailand - the government will love you! But you'll still need to leave every 180 days, and you'll still not be able to have a bank account! ๐๐๐
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 734 I only bring in pension money which is tax free in Australia. So effectively on money remitted to Thailand I've paid zero tax.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 308 Yeah. Since youโve already paid these in Australia, and because Australia has a treaty with Thailand, ๐ youโve effectively "avoided" paying the same taxes again in Thailand. Some people here might read it as if you never paid taxes anywhere.
Anonymous ******************
@Craig ********
I've lived in Thailand for 15 years but always retained tax residency in Australia and as my economic ties are closer to Australia I'm only required to pay tax there. I don't count days, I use other criteriaAnonymous ******************
@Craig ********
I've lived in Thailand for 15 years but always retained tax residency in Australia and as my economic ties are closer to Australia I'm only required to pay tax there. I don't count daysCraig *********
Anonymous participant 308 do mean leave then come back a few days later , or do you mean leave , do 183 days somewhere else then come back ?
Andi ***********
Majority will not have paid tax on a DTV. 2026 will be the year when most are due to pay if needed. Some DTVERS reported getting a TIN, posts should be in the threads.
Anonymous ******************
@Andi **********
You are aware that many DTV holders have lived for years in Thailand before switching visas?Anonymous ******************
@Andi **********
anyone who totalled over 180 days last year, even if that was party made of visa runs and DTV, could pay tax last year
Maksym ***********
@Andi **********
nothing changed this year.Anonymous ******************
Most of us should pay taxes of 2025, not 2024. It means we should do it probably to the end of March 2026.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 143 Your tax return due end March 2026. The bill will come later if you own anything.
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