What should I know about switching to a DTV visa after staying in Thailand for over 180 days on a tourist visa?

Nov 11, 2024
12 days ago
Tomas *********
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Anybody had this? ๐Ÿ™‚

Some years in a row i stayed in Thailand with tourist visa and border runs. And some years i was here more than 180days a year ๐Ÿ™‚ now emmigration dont like this and i want to make DTV visa ๐Ÿ™‚

It will not be an issue? Anybody done it?

Also if somebody stayed 180+ days, dont you have any problems with tax system (becoming Thailand tax residence)? ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks a lot for any advices
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The post discusses the individual's experience of staying in Thailand for several years with tourist visas and border runs, expressing concerns about switching to a DTV visa and potential tax issues related to long-term residency. The comments provide insights on the DTV application process, emphasizing the importance of proving financial support and legal residency during the visa transition. There's also discussion about the complications surrounding tax obligations for those staying over 180 days, with varying opinions on enforcement and implications for expats. Community members share their experiences, suggesting that compliance with immigration rules and having proper documentation can mitigate concerns.
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Michael ********
I donโ€™t think anyone can definitively answer it, but as long as you werenโ€™t staying ILLEGALLY then I think you should be fine to apply for DTVโ€ฆ
Tomas *********
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@Michael *******
always doing legally :)
Peter **************
Heaps of feed back in chats ..heaps ...
Jason **********
I stayed in thailand almost 2 years on 6 month tourist visas and such then recently switched to dtv. They will most likely ask you about your employment to make sure you aren't working illegally in thailand. I showed over a million baht in the bank and applied under soft power, but they asked for additional documents showing how I earned money outside of thailand and brought it in. I showed them deposits/withdrawals from my us bank I use to receive contracted work payments and that was enough. So long story short if you've been in thailand awhile be prepared to show how you have been and will continue to be able to support yourself without working illegally in thailand. As for taxes over 180 days you are responsible for filing taxes in thailand, but some countries have a tax treaty so everyone's situation is a little different. For usa we get credit for the taxes already paid on income in America and would be responsible to remit payment for anything owed beyond that based on thailands tax brackets.
Greg ********
Taxes is a complex subject and it gets emotional for many ๐Ÿ™‚If, and it is a big if, DTV Visa holders get caught up in the tax system it will be for 2025 and the March 2026 tax submission. Wait and see what happens to the 95% of Retirement Visa holders who will not be submitting a tax return for 2024 and do not have a TIN.
Tomas *********
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@Greg *******
so if i sent 2 million baht from my european bank to tmy thai account, nothing bad? :)
Greg ********
@Tomas ********
If you are not Tax Resident in Thailand I cannot see an issue with sending money in. A pal is sending in a lot more than that today to buy a condo and he is not tax resident so no issue.
Greg ********
@Tomas ********
I did not say that ๐Ÿ™‚ If you can prove that saving etc was earned prior to 2024 you can send it no problem. If it was earned after January 1st 2024 and you are Thai Tax resident it is assessable but subject to allowances and Double Taxation Agreements (THIS IS NOT TAX ADVICE) :-)
Paul *******
The tax thing is still unclear and not yet enforced (it might never be, or it might only be enforced in a few years...anyone's guess right now). The point is, immigration is most definitely not interested in it. It would be hilarious if they asked for tax proof while you're standing at a land border coming back in. If that ever happens, foreigners will stop coming to Thailand so I don't think that's something to worry about.
Luit *****************
@Paul ******
maybe they don't ask for tax proof, but it is of course possible tax office getting info from immigration about everybody staying over 180 days, then they match this with tax returns and people not doing their tax can be signalled and stopped at the border.

Technically very simple, but I think Thailand will not do, because it needs cooperation between different governmental organizations.
Roger ***********
I do stay full year and just pay my taxes in Thailand, no issue at all. Of course some try to not pay taxes at all, not my case
Toni *******
Came here
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, visa exempts and extensions,
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visited home country,
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came with TR and after that exempts and extensions.
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came back from vietnam, got a long lecture at passport control (i think because she saw my gf, and can lecture in thai), after that i went to school for 1year ED visa, left thailand
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applied dtv in
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and got approved and now Im here again.
Toni *******
The lady at the passport control didnt like my passport full of exempts, and that they were always extended
Roger ***********
@Toni ******
the day you have another immigration office, he can just refuse you and you can take a plane backโ€ฆ. Just get the right visa for you, will it be DTV or another one, like retirement
Toni *******
@Roger **********
im not 50, and I told already I have DTV now. Didnt have to buy elite visa thanks to dtv
Luigi ********
@Toni ******
which option for DTV visa did you do?
Toni *******
Roger ***********
@Toni ******
all fine then, enjoy Thailand ๐Ÿ‘
Toni *******
@Roger **********
always have always will โค๏ธ
Roger ***********
@Toni ******
same

Same

Here ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Toni *******
Oh, i was in finland 06-
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too, came back with TR and changed it to ED after i got here