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What are the tax implications for DTV holders residing in Thailand and how to find a local accountant knowledgeable in tax treaties?
Question here for the DTV holders currently residing in Thailand longer than 180 days per year therefore becoming liable for Thai income tax returns. Does anyone here have any experience dealing with a local agent that understands the situation and double tax treaties? I’m a full time online freelancer earning %100 of my income from Australian clients and pay Australian income taxes and GST. Any experience from others or recommendations for a local agent would be appreciated as we are intending to stay for 1 full year leaving the country only a few times between those 180 day periods for some other travel. From what I understand you’re only taxed on what is remitted into Thailand however it seems largely a grey area.
Answer summary
The discussion revolves around the tax obligations for Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) holders residing in Thailand for over 180 days, particularly focusing on their liability for Thai income tax while earning income from Australian clients. Participants emphasize the necessity for a knowledgeable Thai accountant familiar with double tax treaties and offer experiences with local tax policies. Key points raised include the exemption for the first 150,000 baht and challenges faced when accessing tax identification numbers and filing taxes, highlighting a generally unclear situation regarding taxation for expats.
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Danny *******
You will still pay Australian taxes
Danny *******
If you’re paying taxes in Australia why would they chase for taxes in Thailand ? There is a lot of complexity on tax and no confirmation they will even chase tax on a DTV
Rhys ******
OP@Danny ******
just asking because over 180 days and it’s technically a requirementRhys ******
OP@Danny ******
yes I’m aware of that, not my question
Rich *****
Is it even confirmed that Thailand will be taxing people who stay more than 180 days per year? Where is the source?
Greg ********
It also looks like foreign bank account owners in Thailand are going to have to declare their country of residence for tax purposes and their TIN. Started with Kasikorn Bank and now Bangkok Bank is asking. No doubt this will become standard. There are other rules being implemented too which will tie your Sim to your Passport to your Account.
Wannikea *********
Your possible tax liability is only on money remitted into Thailand. The first 150,000 baht is exempt, and there are other exemptions that you could possibly qualify for.
Rhys ******
OP@Wannikea ********
is there an accountant you recommend? By remit is this into a Thai bank account or any withdrawals and transfers?Wannikea *********
@Rhys *****
definitely transfers into a Thai bank from abroad, possibly ATM cash withdrawals, and surely you can search Google for a Thai tax accountant. I have no recommendations.
Diego ****
@Wannikea ********
according to chatgpt money spent using your foreign card via card payments or cash withdrawals is not considered as remitted since it doesn't get to circulate into the Thai banking system therefore not due to tax. I wonder how they could track this flow of funds anywayRhys ******
OP@Wannikea ********
you can transfer directly to a Thai bank from Revolut or wiseWannikea *********
@Diego ***
if you don't have a Thai bank account, then you aren't going to be sending money to Thailand. The only other possible method is cash withdrawals at an ATM might be viewed as incoming funds from abroad. Money in Wise or similar is not relevant.
Sly *******
@Diego ***
I don’t think simply having money in your wise would count as remitted into Thailand, but the moment you pay/withdraw using wise in Thailand you are bringing money in. This is just my understanding, I could be wrong.Diego ****
@Wannikea ********
if one doesn't have a Thai bank account, is money transferred into your wise or revolut account considered money remitted to Thailand therefore taxable?
Alex *******
Don't worry about it bro, nothing will happen
Rhys ******
OP@Alex ******
just go about business as usual and don’t submit anything?Alex *******
@Rh**
I'm Australian as well. I have lived in Thailand for 3 years. I'm not doing a tax return here. Everyone I know that lives here more than 180 days is not doing one.At worst, let's say they do end up trying to tax us here. Australia already has a tax agreement with Thailand so we get a tax credit anyway
Greg ********
Visa Agents do not usually deal in twx matters. You need a Thai Accountant with knowledge in this area or one of the larger global tax advisors used to dealing with this. For example this company is what my last company outsourced expat tax matters too. Might be over the top for you but example of the types of org about
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Toni *******
I went to jomtien revenue office 2 weeks ago to ask for the tax id so i could do it online. I had translator with me. They told that need to give 2024 bank statements and pay everything right there, so I said goodbye. They didnt know what they doing I think, I only needed the id number so i can make the report aftet i get one from my home country (have dta, i get it late march)
Rhys ******
OP@Toni ******
sounds like it’s going to be a headache!Toni *******
@Rhys *****
i think more easy to transfer the money thru gf/wife if have one 🤣 luckily i transferred most of my assets in 2023Toni *******
@Rhys *****
it really is, if i do corrections to mine in my home country, its around august i will get the final one
Michael *******
@Toni ******
it will not be easy as you may have no income remitted to thailand, and so no tin number and tax report in thailand ..., how they can manage this at the airport?!James ********
@Toni ******
in fact, reported this week that the Thai government is reviewing the recent tax return issue. Possibly to change it again to lessen the issue.Toni *******
@James *******
yet 🤣James ********
@Toni ******
not connected.James ********
@Toni ******
nobody will ask you for a tax 🆔 when you depart Thailand.Toni *******
@Rhys *****
nothing guaranteed here, they can ask and check what they want 😅 choose male officer, they dont have bad time every month 😆Rhys ******
OP@Toni ******
I have no idea, it’s all new to me. If I don’t have a Thai bank think it will be okToni *******
@Rhys *****
i actually got a message recently from bangkok bank that i need to verify my SIM with the operator. I have no idea what it means since they scan our passports for SIMs. Theres been new money laundering laws coming in effect this year, maybe this all have everything to do with thatToni *******
@Rhys *****
i have lived here 3,5 years now on/off 9months a year, only thing me and my friends think, if they ask for the tax id when flying out. So we would like to get one. Dont want to start dealing with that at the airport. Never heard anyone experienced that, but still possible I thinkRhys ******
OP@Toni ******
I won’t even have a Thai bank account, going to be withdrawing from ATMs and making transfers through RevolutActivity
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