Is anyone here on DTV in Thailand, does not have a Thai bank account but has a Thai Tax ID?
A tax attorney, i just contacted to pay tax in Thailand, told me i need a Thai bank account to get a thai tax id and pay taxes. But I just used revolut to pay and get cash. From all i red i am pretty sure if i am in Thailand for more than 180 days i can get a thai tax id and pay taxes here.
Any advice?
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The user seeks advice on obtaining a Thai Tax ID without having a Thai bank account while on a Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) in Thailand. They have been informed by a tax attorney that a Thai bank account is necessary, but they have used Revolut for cash. The discussion touches on the criteria for tax residency after 180 days in Thailand, the process to register, and the complexities around paying taxes on foreign income versus remitted income.
It's not based only on where you live, but also on whether you remit money here. There are some legal requirements you must meet to pay taxes here. If you fulfill them, then yes, you must pay taxes. But it's not something you can choose only because the rate is lower than in your country. If your salary is not from here and you don't remit money here, you can't pay, even if you wanted to.
As this is a DTV group, I'm assuming you have a DTV, hence you're banned to make income from within Thailand. If you remit money, then you might end up paying tax but only for the remitted amount.
yeah that's what people don't understand, for a lot of people it's better to 'pay' some tax in Thailand even if low, so you have some tax certificate to show your home country if they ever ask. If I may ask, what tax attorney did you contact? I have some questions regarding taxation. Anyways, good luck with all this, I'm considering moving to Thailand next year under dtv but it's kinda difficult to pay tax when creating a Thai bank account is hard under dtv
I have no income from Thailand and I remit no money, so I don't have to pay taxes here. Period. I do pay a lot of taxes in my home country, even if I don't physically live there, as my salary is from there.
I have income but my country. I get my salary every month there. But I pay my expenses in Thailand with the Thai QR linked to my home country bank account, so the money goes straight from my home country bank account to the Thai vendor. I haven't done any remittance, and only withdrew cash from the ATM once, to try if it worked.
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Sorry to jump in.
So if you have a business in the UK but work remotely in Thailand and have been in Thailand more than 180 days, you must pay tax?
Question 2,
How do you register
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Participante anĂłnimo 391 yeah after the 180 day u will
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Anonymous participant 391 180 days in Thailand deems you a Thai tax resident. However, if you meet the criteria to also be a UK tax resident, you then become a dual tax resident. In this case, the DTA will determine which tax residency rules apply.
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Anonymous participant 391
Q1) 180 days in a calendar year inside the Kingdom makes you tax resident and Thai tax law applies to any foreign sourced income. Whether you will actually pay any tax depends on your personal financial circumstances.
Q2) You register at your local tax office, bring your passport and proof of address.
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By Thai law you are required to obtain a TIN within 60 days of receiving assessable income. Foreign sourced income is only assessable for Thai tax when remitted once you are a Thai tax resident. Not all foreign sourced income is assessable whilst tax resident, it depends on your source of funds and the wording of any exemptions in your countryâs DTA. Everyoneâs tax status will depend on their personal financial circumstances.
DTV_Be*******
Itâs super hard to get a refund or pay money if you donât have a Thai bank acct
Greg ********
DTV_Begpacker Thai tax refunds do not go to your own bank account. At least they did not back in 2021 when I got one. They use a certain bank and you have to go to that one with the cheque and mess around. Eventually they gave me an ATM card with the amount of the rebate on it.
DTV_Begpacker It was another Thai feck about. At first they woukd do nothing as wanted WP as well as passport. I had a Thai with me who said that was just stupid. She went over to next tower and got copies of WP from company office. Nope, wanted the WP book. In the end I took the ATM card and withdrew every Baht and went back in the bank and gave it back. I then got on Skytrain one stop to Emporium and bought a Naim Muso2 with the rebate. Used daily :-(
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Who in their right mind goes rushing to pay tax, not even knowing if they have a tax liability?
Plenty have already done it. They've buckled under the fear mongering tax agents who are spreading their bs with glee!
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Jason **********
To apply for a TIN, expats will need to complete Form L.P. 10.1.
Supporting Documents
Valid Passport with a valid visa or visa exemption
Proof of address â A house registration book, lease or rental agreement accompanied by a copy of the landlordâs ID card.
Copies of the above
Where to Apply
Once the documents are assembled, expats should apply for their TIN at their local tax office. Many foreigners have reported language issues at some offices, so if you are going to tackle applying yourself and cannot speak Thai, it might be useful to take along a friend who can assist you.
Easiest is just to get an accountant to do it for you. I seem to remebwr all I handed over was Passportand WP. As you say language issues at some and to be honest some want to avoid dealing with foreigners if not an everyday thing lol
yes thats what my plan was and the tax attorney i got from my german friend who lives here for long time says i need to have money coming from my homecountry bank account in my name to a thai bank account in my name. She refers to the part that i have to bring money into Thailand to pay tax on but i dont think thats really true. Money taken out of the atm or money sent to my landlord from my homecountry bank account does not countâŠ
My own view is the Thai Tax Authorities are not really looking out for people in your position or for say retirees bringing in money from outside. They might care for 2024 if it was 100's of thousands of USA but still not seen anyone reporting they have been taxed. They are now looking to change the rules again so you can bring in outside money earned and not be taxed.
False, any remittance whether via ATM, physically or electronically may be subject to taxation depending on the source of the funds, any DTA in place and your resident status at time of remittance. Fire your tax attorney.
thank you very much for the information. I will work with that! đđ»
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0 point in being proactive paying taxes into Thailand if you are remitting funds.
The latest news they are probably giving at least a 1 year exemption for remitted funds anyway
Maybe have some savings available if the issue does arise but itâs very unlikely and the only probable penalty will be - unable to enter Thailand until you pay
We are already contributing 2-3x is spending power to Thai economy than normal Thais and receive no benefits âŠâŠlike free healthcare, cheaper BTS tickets, double pricing, no drinkable water, âŠ.
are you seriously gonna be happy giving Thai government 10% of what you earn and get back absolutely nothing in return
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Anonymous participant 402 i will be very happy to pay 10% tax yes thats why i ask this question đđ»