Why was my DTV application rejected while holding a tourist visa in Thailand?

wait so i have 40 days left on my visa if leave thailand tmrw to go to laos and apply for my DTV will i get denied? doesn’t it end once i exit thailand?

Gonna be honest, this is clearly explained multiple times while you go through the application.

No you don’t. You just don’t k ow how to do it. I was approved in Hanoi. Cost me $5 for round trip flight + stay + 5000 beers on Bier street in Vietnam. You’re doing it wrong bro lol

And in case the DTV was rejected, when can you apply for this again after ?

Typically, I have seen where once you apply for the new visa —they will automatically cancel your previous Visa. This is the first time I’ve seen a denial while on a different Visa, but as we know, processes change in Thailand so be diligent about making sure you tie up loose ends And recheck your requirements/qualifications before applying for a new visa

Essentially you can stay in Thailand currently until 30th May after that date exit and then reapply for DTV

Are your flights changeable - most are but with a change fee and fare difference but least you still persevere the original cost of your ticket

your still currently have an active METV visa thats valid for 6 months . you only used 60 days and went all the way back to USA. you couldve hopped over to vietnam for a week and returned to thailand for another 60 days with the METV. you can still return to thailand and get 60 days

go vietnam and make DTV great again 😅

That is correct👍

If you enter Thailand on tourist visa isnt it auto cancelled once you exit the country?

flew in with my metv recently that’s still valid for 4 months. the immigration agent told me i needed to get a dtv if i wanted come back lmao

It’s normal

You don’t need to have residence in the neighboring countries to apply like you do with the Thai embassies in the US and Europe

It is possible to actively terminate an existing visa. I don't know the exact process, but a friend had to do it recently so he could get his work visa. I think he did it at local immigration services. So you could have done it when you exited thailand, but I guess it's too late for that now. Anyway, research ways to cancel an existing visa before expiry date, it is possible.

Sorry, but does this also apply for a Non-Immigrant ED Visa as well?

I’m outside Thailand, and applying for an ED Visa while my multiple entry tourist visa is still valid until May 30th🤔

Thanks for the heads up

It's best to work with an agent who will guide you through these steps

Can't be clever and apply for DTV if you already have a tourist visa in Thailand.

You can't collect visas like pokémon cards. Did you ever stop to think, I have a visa, I think I'll get another one while this one is still valid, no need to research if that's allowed or not.

Best do your homework buddy

My first DTV application was rejected however, they have provided me with a free tourist visa valid for 90 days. I went to apply for DTV again and it was approved. It’s depending on the embassy you applied for you DTV actually. The tourist visa can be cancelled.

So, catch your flights and when your tourist visa expires, fly to Hanoi or Vientiane and apply there. It’s probably a smoother process than in the US and a good opportunity to visit a neighbouring country.

Well, I was in thailand on a tourist visa while my dtv got approved. Guess I was lucky then.

Did you ask them about your visa rejection via email?

Or they sent it to you by themselves after rejection?

I'm curious because I have two rejections and no one explained to me why

So what kind of tourist visa do you currently have, can you switch or cancel one visa to acquire the other? I have the DTV and am considering switching over to the LTR, before my DTV ends, I was told by an agent that this is possible to do.🤷🏾‍♀️

"I did it with an active ED on another passport. For the DTV, I used a new one without any issue. I just left the country with the old passport where the ED visa stamp was. I didn't officially tell the school or immigration, and everything was OK.

I thought when you arrive you get a visa? I have APEC so I should still get 90 days.

Look up the rules first, next time.

So funny that we are using an automated computer systems to slap users fingers and steel their money.

I would think that in most countries if you get a new Visa that invalidates your previous Visa. There you go problem solved....

At least that's how it works in China for various tourist visas.

Why is it when we use computers we create systems which are not human friendly?

I'm a computer guy but the way the DTV application is working is not how I think.

Like if a scan your passport machine readable data and it doesn't match what you typed in they think. And this is more common than people know because of character sets from different countries and trans gravation to the machine readable the rules which are not clear to users. The machine should really just use it to highlight to the use of it maybe what you entered isn't correct because it doesn't match because the computer can tell you that when it looks at it.

Basically the system should just not accept you to continue to the next stage unless the data matches. It's meant to verify and help you to get it right. It's not meant to slap you on the fingers and kick you out.

You have to be outside of Thailand to apply for DTV if you where doing soft power anyway you can consider and change to ED visa in country

@Devin ******

thank you Devin for heads up.

Yeah you can cancel your tourist visa before applying for another tourist visa.

You can’t apply for a DTV Visa while you are still in Thailand you dolt!

Thailand 2026

Change the date on your application to be after your tourist visa expires

Go Vietnam from Bangkok!

Soon as you leave Thailand any visa you have finishes unless you have multiple entry, so this don't make sense as if your applying for DTV, your obviously outside of Thailand which means you have no visa as it would be cancelled when you left, as you cannot apply for DTV whilst in Thailand

So you been winging it living here on a metv they tried to get dtv ?

I thought everyone knew this😅

Understand your frustration but why does it cost you $1000s for flight? Even if you didn’t have a valid tourist visa, did you assume you would be granted a DTV for certainty?

It's an American guys.. not the brightest people.. have some compassion for them 🤣🤣

Should of asked 🙄

Your tourist visa still allows entry, so flights not wasted.

Can't apply for visa while in the country. 555

Correct

Can’t have 2 active visa’s.

You’re an imbecile

Australian government is the same, won’t take an application for a second visa while an existing visa is still current

yea no Shh...you cant have two valid, different visas at same time 🤦🏻‍♀️

Of course bc they wanna make sure you can't enter the country while applying

Why don’t you just stamp out and go to Laos and get another visa.

Yes who could have known🙄

I still think the best starting point for new Thailand expats is a tourist visa to enter country and then to apply for an education visa and course in the country via an agent. Then after a year of learning the language when your visa expires, leave the country and apply for Dtv if you still want to stay in Thailand. Thailand has so much red tape to understand when it comes to their immigration policies so it's a great way to get a feel for it all and the country and culture before applying for the Dtv. Unless you get it 100% right and read everything in detail and do your research and apply at an embassy in your own country before you leave.

Wait, did you apply for both at the same time? That was dumb.

This is common sense that if you have valid visa you can extend or upgrade it just before it expires

I never got mines denied nor did I have trouble

Obviously that is your fault. You cannot hold 2 visas.

How do you lose thousands on flights?

I changed to DTV from my retirement visa, no problem at all

This was done in Australia

Your issue may be due to the embassy you applied at

Yes you can't apply from within Thailand...

so go on your active visa?

You're a sausage. How do you even have money?

They’re trying to help you save money bro so you can extract the maximum value from your current visa just like the ladyboys will extract maximum juice from you when you return 🇹🇭❤️

You brake the Rules

yOu KneW thEy rEseRve tHe RiGhT tO rEjEcT aNy aPpliCaTiOn wiThoUt ReAson Be GratefuL yOu GoT a ReAson Just ApPly AgAin LaTeR😀

You ready have a visa. And you're making an issue of bullsht.

FYI, if you speak with the consulate, they may be able to cancel your active one and start your DTV instead.

did you apply while you were in thailand?

Thai logic.. you can't be in Thailand while application is in system therefore you can't be using the tourist visa ..

How wonderful evisa portal is until human interference

Well lesson learned

Yes, you are only allowed to have one visa at a time. What type of tourist visa do you have? Single entry or multiple entry? When did you get a tourist visa? From the same embassy?

The burden is not on the embassy. It's on you.

OF COURSE! 🤓

With all AI like ChatGPT / Claude app, It takes minute to ask of such basic questions before your trip....

I am sure that this very frustrating news seems a bit overwhelming at the moment. Well it is inconvenient, you can pop over to a nearby country like Laos or Vietnam. There you can apply for your DTV in person. The process in time will be faster and a 2-week vacation in Vietnam is much less expensive than flying all the way home. I hope you're able to get this sorted out.

thousands of dollars for flights? Since you have a valid visa you just can use your booked flights.

Just go to Lao or another close by country and apply from there

Why not continue on the tourist visa and after fly to Vietnam or somewhere in Asia to reapply for the DTV?

Ok I'll bite: why did it cost you thousands of dollars for flights? Either enter on that tourist visa, or get the tourist visa cancelled at a Thai embassy or consulate. Or get a new passport.

Your fault you need to do more research before applying for a visa, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that in 99% of cases, you can only be on one visa at a time.

That's normal. You can only have one visa at a time.

You have to cancel that other visa first. I read that while doing research. They do allow you to cancel it instead of having to wait for it to expire

Yes, as per conditions. Mentioned on embassies' websites but a lot ignore it.

IMO that’s a basic question someone should ask or research.