What visa should I apply for if my wife is a Thai citizen by descent but currently lacks a Thai passport or ID?

This has gone far enough.

1. > My wife is Thai with no thai ID or Passport. She was born In Thailand but has lived in Germany all her life and is a German and Thai citizen. Her mom is a thai citizen and has a thai ID and Passport.

This is not a "How do I get a Thai passport" group. Your wife can enter Thailand on her German passport, and get a one year extension of stay based on being a former Thai citizen. She will need proof that she is a Thai citizen though.

2. > What we don’t want to is to apply for a visa that cannot be changed to a marriage visa.

You can apply for a single entry tourist visa, and it can be changed into a Non-O visa based on marriage IF the immigration office is willing to sell the in-country Non-O visa, and you meet the legal requirements (Marriage is reregister in Thailand, you have the 400K THB, etc.). I do not know if you can get a one year extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai national if the wife is on a one year extension of stay based on being a Thai citizen.

Go to Thai embassy in Germany with birth certificate and parents ID and apply for Thai ID card first and for Thai passport. I’d imagine If she arrives in thailand 🇹🇭 on a foreign passport she will be subject to same restrictions as any foreigner.

I found that out when I arrived in the UK on my Aussie passport when my UK one had expired. Was told I was not permitted to stay in the UK longer than 6 months even tho I was born and raised there was also not allowed to work or gain access to public funds (unemployment) or housing.

My Thai wife didn’t have a current ID card when they updated to microchip version she was issued one on the spot in Sydney.

okay, the wife's situation can be sorted out by contacting the thai consulate/embassy in Germany AND seeing as a thai doesn't need a visa to get in that's all I'm gonna say about that. 😮

You on the other hand can apply for a 90 day single entry Non-O visa based on being married to a thai. Then come in get stamped in for 90 days and after that apply for the year marriage extension.

OR

come in on a visa exempt or a 60 day tourist visa, apply for the in country 90 day Non-O visa based on marriage at your local immigration office and then apply for the yearly extension of stay.

She can get a temporary passport at the Thai embassy or Consulate. With this passport she can enter Thailand and get the ID card and the permanent passport.

if she is born to a Thai mother, she is automatically a Thai citizen and can apply for a Thai passport at the embassy in your country. She will need her birth certificate, her mothers ID and some other documents. Only the Thai embassy will be able to tell you how to proceed

Contact to Thai embassy there to check if she can get a Thai ID and passport.

If she can have a Thai ID and she enters Thailand on whatever passport other than Thai, she can apply for an extension being Thai national.

Or, if she cannot get a Thai ID nor passport, prepare the documents to prove the relationship with her Thai mother, there is the extension called (or translated to) "In the case of a person who used to have Thai nationality or whose parent is or was of Thai nationality visiting relatives or returning to his or her original homeland:"

If you want/need to apply for a visa (not entering a visa-exempt scheme), SETV is the most flexible one for you.

If she is Thai nationality. Then she can apply for Thai id card at royal thai embassy Germany and get Thai id card. The system is connected worldwide.

Except that she only has Thai blood but not registered in Thailand system. Then she is only German.

@Tod ********

will be here in the morning.

With registered on mothers place …

Then …. All easy to apply for Thai ID card

Surely we will need to apply for a Thai passport. That will be the best option long term

Regarding her situation, I'd say a visit to the Thai consulate in Berlin should get her a Thai passport if she is Thai citizen - but without ID surely it will be needed more paperwork.

Maybe she could just travel to Thailand under her German passport, and arrange everything (ID and passport) while in the country, what surely will be easier. Then travel back to Germany (to get the out stamp) and back to Thailand with her new Thai passport

Witch passport she has… if German she need to come in with a 60 days tourist… and here going to here birth village or and with her mother … to get a Thai birth certificate

Ok

The first thing is that she has a Thai mother … she need a Geburtsurkunde… is her mother in Germany or here?

If here