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What steps should I take to apply for my first Non-O visa if I turn 50 soon?
Dave Toseland
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If your approaching 50. And want to apply for your first visa based on that is it the same situation. I need to be ahead of the game and start doing the transfers now? I’m 50 in July , won’t be able to get 12 months in by then
posted in another thread
If your approaching 50. And want to apply for your first visa based on that is it the same situation. I need to be ahead of the game and start doing the transfers now? I’m 50 in July , won’t be able to get 12 months in by then
Answer summary
The discussion centers around applying for a Non-O visa in Thailand as an expatriate turning 50 years old. The initial question is about the need for prior financial transfers when applying for the visa, especially since the individual is currently on a tourist visa and wants to ensure they qualify for the Non-O visa extension. Key points discussed include the importance of having several months of financial evidence before applying, the nuances of the immigration process at different offices in Thailand, and the prerequisites for converting a tourist visa to a Non-O visa.
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Jim ***********
So arriving on TR Visa then get Non O not possible?
Tod *********
OP@Jim **********
Totally possible to do IF you meet the requirements to apply for an in country Non-O. Jim ***********
@Tod ********
thank you, yes I meet requirements 
Zach *******
At phuket immigration they did not accept my 1 year of money transfers.
I was told it must be a pension..
I was told it must be a pension..
Dave **********
@Zach ******
really that is bad news . I can do the 800k but to be honest I didn’t want to tie that amount up in a Thai bank account that isn’t providing any or very little return . 
David *********
@Dave *********
the 800K is the best method, needs to be in your Thai Account for 2 full months before you apply! I had the same thought as you about having 800K sitting here, but I have an Account in Australia with identical amount one the best interest available, and it still only returns a miserable $7.50 a month!
The 800K will give you peace of mind.
Bobby ********
David Purcell. I don't know if it's the "best" method. I prefer the 65k/month because the money can be spent on rent, entertainment, food, travel, hotels etc, unlike the 800k which has to just sit there blowin' in the wind!
Bobby ********
Zach Fauth. Actually Phuket initially knocked back a German friend of mine in the similar situation because apparently the German embassy still issues the affidavits for pension. He appealed and was allowed the bank transfers but was told next time he will need the affidavit. It might be one of those local idiosyncrasies that pop up with different offices
Tod *********
OP@Bobby *******
The rule has always been IF your consualte issues the affidavit of income notary letter you get it, you can't use monthly income. Your friend was lucky, I had a Canadian at Chaengwattana in Bangkok get knocked back even though he had the monthly transfers for the previous year because the canadian embassy issues the letter.
Bobby ********
Dave Toseland. That's not a problem. UK embassy won't do affidavits so you're allowed to show 65k baht per month foreign transfer.
Dave **********
@Bobby *******
im from the UK. it isnt pension money coming in , just money from the UKBobby ********
Tod Daniels. Yes that's what they told him. He thinks they went easy on him because he acted dumb and polite, but was assured it's a one-off only. I don't know which country the OP is from, but this might be the same scenario
Tod *********
OPKeep in mind
@David ********
, the O/P does NOT have a 90 day non-O visa based on retirement yet, and the seasoning you mention is for the year extension NOT the initial 90 day Non-O. The only requirement using banked money to get the Non-O issued in country is that it has to transfer in from abroad. Once it's here you can apply for the 90 day Non-O at most immigration offices because they know that the money WILL be seasoned the 2 months by the time you go to get your year extension when that 90 day stamp runs down. Dave **********
@Bobby *******
you think they would be bending over backwards to allow people to stay at the moment Bobby ********
Dave Toseland. Agreed, especially when it means 65k is coming into the country. The affidavit merely means it's there but in another country. But sometimes logic doesn't always follow
Tod *********
OPAnd sadly
Sorry that happened,
@Zach ******
that is between you and the immigration office :( There is nothing in the rules that states it has to be pension, it states a minimum monthly transfer of 65K baht a month from abroad into a thai bank account in your name only. I would have told them I wanted to file a written appeal. Sorry that happened,
Tod *********
OPThen I answered:
If you're gonna use monthly income you need to be ahead of the game because (while there is a paragraph in the police order concerning your FIRST yearly extension using monthly transfers) I have rarely seen any immigration offices follow it
Plus you're on a tourist visa entry now, AND you need to get the in country 90 day Non-O visa before you can get the year extension.
It is my experience that people using monthly income applying for the 90 day Non-O visa need 4 or 5 months of previous transfers before immigrations will even consider issuing the visa in country.
Once you get that 90 day Non-O then it comes down to whether the immigration office will let you get the year extension without a full year of transfers (seeing as it's your first retirement visa / extension).
Those are questions for your immigration office, both the section that issues in country visas and then the section that issues yearly extensions.
@Da**
, @Ma***
brings up an excellent point. (y)If you're gonna use monthly income you need to be ahead of the game because (while there is a paragraph in the police order concerning your FIRST yearly extension using monthly transfers) I have rarely seen any immigration offices follow it
Plus you're on a tourist visa entry now, AND you need to get the in country 90 day Non-O visa before you can get the year extension.
It is my experience that people using monthly income applying for the 90 day Non-O visa need 4 or 5 months of previous transfers before immigrations will even consider issuing the visa in country.
Once you get that 90 day Non-O then it comes down to whether the immigration office will let you get the year extension without a full year of transfers (seeing as it's your first retirement visa / extension).
Those are questions for your immigration office, both the section that issues in country visas and then the section that issues yearly extensions.
Tod *********
OP@Ma***
asked:Are you currently outside Thailand? What visa are you applying for? Or are you already inside Thailand?
@Da**
replied:i came back in on Single entry tourist visa about a month ago (only way in for me at the time)
@Ma***
replied:I think this relevant to your question about the 12 months but
@T**
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