What should I do after experiencing severe complications following medical treatment in Thailand?

Dec 21, 2023
a year ago
Barry ********
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EDIT. I appreciate the comments regarding why didnt I do this or that hindsight eh?

Hello Admin please approve.

This is a real story, which I hope will benefit others. After a concussion in England, I returned to Pattaya in September and went to a well known hospital in North Pattaya whose HQ is in Bangkok. I saw a neurologist who was recommended by a number of people on Facebook. He was 45 minutes late looking dishevelled, not at all like a doctor. I went alone and after a hurried consultation, he somehow decided I needed injections in my neck and back to deal with concussion. Before he explained what he was going to do or give me the opportunity to ask questions, he started to give me injections in neck and back, every one went in 2.5cm. The pain from every injections was indescribable but by the time he had finished he had given me 31 trigger point Injections. Halfway through, he got me to sign a piece of paper giving authorisation I guess. I don't speak Thai and him and his nurse didn't talk to me much about the injections or talk about aftercare. This was 13 weeks ago. I left the hospital in great pain and since then I have been back to that hospital 3 times to see him, 2 times to see another neurologist, 2 times to see a gastroenterologist and once to see a physiotherapist. They gave me a free MRI on my neck and brain because i complained that the injections affected me badly. They are all covering up for the initial guy who gave me the injections. I have massive shaking in my arms legs and feet, pain in my neck, back and shoulders. I have lost sense of feeling in my arms, I cannot walk because my legs hurt so much. I have lost every muscle in my body, legs arms, the lot and have lost 12kg in weight. I feel sick all the time and have diarrhoea 20 times a day on average. My kidneys have started playing up and I am peeing brown blood urine. My diabetis is now totally out pf control as are the problems with my pancreas and blood pressure. I have been to 2 other hospitals, both saying they could not help, after I paid for treatment. Because of my age and previous history I could not get insurance so I self pay. Despite spending a fortune on treatment, the hospital are denying liability, it feels like I am terminally ill and I am gutted. Had I know this would be the outcome I would not have gone anywhere near that hospital and would urge anyone reading this to avoid this hospital unless essential. So my message is:

1 Don't use this hospital for any treatment

2 If you decide to use them always go with someone

3 Do not agree to any treatment on the day at any hospital

4 If you do have treatment there or anywhere, do research on the doctor, what treatment he is going to do and the side effects of any proposed medicines or injections to be used

5 Do not sign anything at all other than to pay your bill

6 Do not take recommendations from others on facebook or anywhere else do your own research.

I have attached photos for others to see my treatment and after effects, before and after these injections. Apart from the odd headache, I was physically fit and strong with reasonable muscle shape, which has all disappeared and I feel shockingly ill every day.

This is a desperate plea. If anyone out there can please help me to locate a doctor or hospital that is reasonably priced that can save my life I would be most grateful. While I said don't take recommendations from others, I have nothing to lose as I'm dying and would willingly pay for someone who can help with my issues ASAP.

I am really upset with myself for rushing into treatment, which I know is killing me, so please avoid doing the same at all costs.

Please refrain from telling me how stupid I have been. I know and have regretted every minute for the last 13 weeks. I am too ill to travel back and I would give anything to get my life back.

Thanks Barry
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A harrowing account of a patient who underwent treatment for a concussion in Pattaya, Thailand, resulting in severe complications, including significant weight loss, muscle degeneration, and abnormal kidney function. The patient expresses regret over the rushed decision for treatment and shares detailed after-effects, urging others to avoid similar experiences. Commenters suggest seeking reputable hospitals, obtaining medical records, possibly pursuing legal recourse for malpractice, and emphasizing the importance of being cautious with medical treatments abroad. The overarching theme stresses the necessity for thorough research before medical procedures in foreign health systems.
Galenus ******
To be honest you behaved like an immature little child. The doctor could treat you like dead meat?? Don't blame the hospital but yourself. Do you know the word "No"? Why you didn't leave the room? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Russell *********
oh man.. hope you will be ok. I have never seen such quick action at this hospital .. they usually give u some options for treatment, and nothing actually has to be done that day
Chika *******
Please go back to your country and have this sorted out. By God's grace you will be fine šŸ™
Mark *********
@Chika ******
Note all my comments about lack of free NHS service in all but very few cases where the patient has worked overseas for a British connected business. Otherwise free NHS goes after 2 years. It is resdience not nationality, passport of National Insurance contribution-based. It isn't good advice to go to a country wheer private costs are not at US or Japanese levels, but nonetheless are very high. The same is true for legal fees - wildly high.
Leslie *****
please check yr Dm ..
Aki *******
I hope you're ok. Let us know you've got some help.
Russell *******
I would go back to the UK and before you go see a lawyer medical lawyer here in Thailand to register the situation.

Wishing you the best
Mark *********
@Russell ******
Note my point about no free NHS access if out of UK for 2years or more. Entitlement is based on residencce, not nationality, passport of National Insurance contributions. The one exception is if you have been overseas working for a firm with a British Connection. Why do Brits keep continuing a belief in a fantasy rather than checking reality in healthcare before leaving the country? Residence is now the be all to end all and not just in health care, but, as an example accessing public housing.
Kal *********
U had a concussion in UK but decided to come to Thailand to take care of it ?
Eddie ****
my brain hurts again
Claus *********
Hi Barry, thanks for sharing .. I

And i feel sorry for you.. Iā€™m working with the healthcare system in Thailand and though this is rare it can happen.. normally a private hospital is highly concerned about their reputation (and good you donā€™t mention name here

Regarding the injections you mention in the comments, Kenalog (Triamcinolone acetonide) is a corticosteroid used to treat inflammation and Chirocaine (Levobupivacaine) is an anesthetic used for pain relief. The combination could be used for therapeutic purposes, but their use must be carefully considered by a medical professional based on the individual case.

For the symptoms youā€™re experiencing, including loss of sensation and muscle mass, itā€™s important to seek immediate medical attention. Specialists in neurology or internal medicine might be able to provide an assessment and suggest a course of action.

You should probably pursue legal Action and Complaints:

1. Legal Consultation: Consult with a local lawyer who specializes in medical malpractice. They can provide specific advice based on Thai law and the details of your case.

2. Hospital Complaints Board: File a formal complaint with the hospitalā€™s internal complaint board or patient advocacy service if they have one.

3. Medical Council or Board: In Thailand, thereā€™s likely a medical council or board that oversees medical practice and ethics. File a complaint with them regarding the treatment you received.

4. Consumer Protection Agency: Thailand has consumer protection agencies that might offer avenues for complaints against services, including medical services.

5. Embassy or Consular Assistance: Contact your countryā€™s embassy or consulate in Thailand. They can provide guidance, especially if thereā€™s a language barrier or legal complexities.

6. Documentation: Keep detailed records of all your medical treatments, interactions with doctors, and any communications related to your case.

In Thailand, medical malpractice claims can be filed in Thai courts, and they are based on liability for wrongful acts. To pursue a medical malpractice claim, you would need to establish that a medical practitioner acted negligently or unlawfully, failing to meet established standards of medical practice, and that this resulted in injury or death. It's essential to have evidence in the form of a medical opinion from a practitioner attesting to this negligence [oai_citation:1,Medical Malpractice Claims in Thailand | Siam Legal International](
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The Consumer Case Procedure Act 2551 and the Consumer Protection Act in Thailand define a consumer as any person receiving medical services, from either a government or a private hospital. If damages from medical malpractice occur, a consumer can file a Consumer Case in court. This approach can be beneficial as it often allows for a faster court procedure without court fees [oai_citation:2,Medical Malpractice in Thailand](
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Regarding the timeframe, the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code stipulates that a claim for damages arising from a wrongful act must be filed within 1 year from when the wrongful act and the person responsible became known to the injured person, or within 10 years from the day of committing the wrongful act. If the claim for damages also falls under criminal law, which may provide a longer statute of limitations, then the longer period applies [oai_citation:3,Medical Malpractice in Thailand](
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In terms of the legal process, damages awarded in medical malpractice cases in Thailand are typically based on quantifiable losses, such as expenses and lost income. Intangible losses like pain and suffering are less commonly awarded compared to Western legal systems. Additionally, medical negligence claims usually require expert testimony from qualified medical professionals [oai_citation:4,Medical Malpractice in Thailand | Bangkok Lawyers](
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Given the complexity of medical malpractice cases in Thailand, it is advisable to consult with a qualified lawyer who can provide specific guidance and ensure that your claim is filed within the appropriate timeframe. They can also assist in gathering and submitting all relevant evidence to support your case.

This is my best advice .. if you want to share more of your medical information, feel free to PM me..
Naja ***********
I'd just like to say I'm really sorry for what has happened to you.

It must be a really terrible and scary time for you.

What happened to you should not have happened.

What's done is done.

All one can do now is make the best of what cards life has dealt you.

I find the most useful thing to do in such helpless and treacherous situations is to practice daily gratitude. That's all you can do to enjoy what you have and cope with the hard stuff.

My heart really goes out to you.

I can't believe I'm the only one here that actually has some empathy towards you, while you're in such a tragic situation.

This is so sad for me how cold and cruel people really are.

I mean, honestly, not 1 person here has a heart for an old man suffering?

What a bunch of psychopaths.

I wish you all would grow a human soul.

It's people that do this that makes our world so hard and horrible for everyone.

Cmon ppl, let's make the world a better place. Let's start with love and care.
Amber *********
Oh shit! Please follow up with a lawyer back in your home land immediately to get (medical) instructions from a legal standpoint. Compensation lawyer.
Amber *********
Wishing you all the best in your recovery and seeking justice.
Amber *********
Ps i had positive experiences at Bunrungrad.
Detlef ***********
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Lawrance **********
Sorry to hear that you're suffering Barry, I would recommend you get a full blood test done, then with that results, go to one of the well known Hospitals to see a doctor.
Aki *******
Gosh, there's too much going on here. Why a concussion? Why the injections? I just don't understand. You need to firstly stop the diarrhea, get medicine. Take electrolytes. Go to drs or call Dr to help you get well enough to travel back home. Get your will in order!!! Otherwise your family will get stick with the aftermath and mess
Lucian **********
Patty *******
Hi, it might be worth it to get an appointment online with any of neurologist on staff (Usually they are professor doctors who teach interns at the hospital) at Chulalongkorn or Ramathibodi hospital in BKK for second opinion. After you received a confirmed appt., before you go, please get your medical record from Bangkok hospital at Pattaya and bring it along. Chulalongkorn, Siriraj hospital or Ramathibodi hospital in BKK are reputable teaching hospitals, you could be treated there with affordable fees.
Otto *********
That hospital is known to be extremely expensive, but not known for good treatment. They really are under constant pressure to generate profit for the hospital company...
AxMdob *******
Farangs are just animals 40 millions come each year in the country and with themselves tons of money, why every body can t have a partvof this money, they just take money from people that have a lot and usually farangs love that because they come back each year.
Johann *********
Good luck.
Frank ***********
The bloke is asking for help, not idiots that have got nothing else to do than play billy big bollocks on the Internet,
Steve *************
Why is it that some people get on here and just aim to criticize and condemn when people genuinely ask for help? Itā€™s no wonder the world is in such an awful situationā€¦.
CN ****
So much for the state of art medical care that Thailand takes credit for. I hope you somehow recover from what this terrible hospital did to you.
Prieto ****
Dude, why not go back to the UK? If you are confused with the doctors here, with the NHS at least you have free care and no cultural barriers
Mark *********
@Prieto ***
and others If any good comes out of this let it be Brits understanding that if out of UK for 2+ years they have lost free access to NHS. You pay as a foreigner and sometimes NHS is more expensive than private, if probably mostly not. Entitlement is through residence not nationality, passport or having paid National Insurance. The one exception to the two year rule is if while overseas you have been working for a British firm.
Peter ********
@Prieto ***
He says heā€™s too ill to travel. Catch 22. But yes.
Andy **********
@Peter *******
According to what he said, he feels too ill to travel, not an airline decision
Peter ********
@Andy *********
Yes. He says a lot of things. As my mother would have said. And I will also say that if I was this ill I wouldnā€™t be posting this kind of thing. Iā€™d be getting my sisters who are both doctors to get me fixed or air freighted to the US or UK. I really like a lot of expats. They have great entertainment value.
Larry *******
@Prieto ***
yup your right pal next plane out straight to his local hospital he will get sorted out but that is one scary story
Kev **********
Book into a military hospital .
Steve **********
@Kev *********
ya, room with Thaksin.

It's a staffed suite with kitchen, lounge etc
Bent *************
Honestly - I donā€™t believe this!
Peter ********
@Bent ************
I tend to concur with you. I had an excellent experience at this hospital. But this doesnā€™t mean that every experience is excellent. I donā€™t really know what to say. If he had insurance maybe he could get home by air ambulance.
Barry ********
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Neville *******
Good luck Barry

I have had four different experinces.

Three were absolutely fantastic.

The fourth was a disaster...fortunately only a very minor problem. No matter how much I complained they just didn't want to know.

My advice is ALWAYS check on the history of the doctor who is treating you.
Steve **********
Went to a few optomologists for prescriptions.

1st 2, even without exam said stage 2 Cataracts and pulled out appt book for surgery. Both spent more time explaining why they recommend anesthesia for the surgery than the surgery.

Same town 18 years later..just bought 1st pair of readers.

eyesight fine.

Ask many references, trust few.

It's a business like any other !
Joeg ******
Bummer hope you figure out what is the matter and get help soon.

I've never been to Pattaya and will never go.

But one think I was taught by people who've traveled S.E.A is always get traveler's insurance.

Thank goodness I've never had to use it.

I've had the typical upset stomach or something minor but I know if I have to leave in an emergency my traveler's insurance will pick up the bill.

Hope you find a resolution to your health issues.
Andy **********
@Joeg *****
Travellers insurance won't cover expats
Joeg ******
@Andy *********
I'm not an expat yet.

But I know that their is insurance that you can purchase monthly in Thailand
Andy **********
@Joeg *****
Yeah, expat insurance. Global annual travel insurance gives 30 days coverage per country, and probably won't cover things like cancer treatment. It will just cover enough to get you well enough for medevac.
Joeg ******
@Andy *********
good to know.

Good information for those who are looking to be expats.
Steve **********
What was name of Hospital and Dr ?
Kevin *********
I have been in Bangkok and Pattaya 10 years.

Never heard anything remotely like this.

You are saying it's Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.

This hospital has a good reputation with standard professional procedures and English speaking staff.

And for most Pattaya Expats it's the first choice.

A dishevelled Doctor???

Didn't speak English??

Even though Medical Schools in Thailand use American textbooks?

No consultation before treatment???

No Q&A with written notes??

No explanation of the treatment???

You had concussion but flew to Thailand???

IF there is truth in the story try Bumrungrad Hospital Bangkok.

It's in the World Top Twenty most years.
Barry ********
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@Kevin ********
its true I didn't say he couldn't speak english he spoke very little to me spoke with nurse in Thai gave me no explanation he was in a hurry became was late I should hae stopped him and asked what the plan was
Andrew ********
Corticosteroids mixed with some diabetic meds can cause moderate to severe side effects. I believe you need to consult a physician asap. Chokdee.
Andy **********
@Andrew *******
Generally the effect is to reduce the effectiveness of diabetic meds for a short period.
Andrew ********
@Andy *********
, Iā€™d see a specialist(doctor). Edited to help others have a better understanding of what a specialist is.
Andy **********
@Andrew *******
Or a doctor.........
Andrew ********
@Andy *********
isnā€™t that the same , Jesus!
Andrew ********
@Andy *********
symptoms can last for days. With amount of shots heā€™s received, Iā€™d talk to a physician specialist that deals with diabetes.
Andy **********
@Andrew *******
Its been 13 weeks so he says. He's has multiple shots from one pre-filled syringe, relatively low dose. The steroid is long out of his system.
Barry ********
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@Andrew *******
I have been getting nowhere going from hospital to hospital
Juntima ****************
Is this a malpractice? Maybe complaining at the hospital facebook page will help. Iā€™m feeling sorry for you. If this happens to Thai people , they would have gone on TV news show. Only then, the hospital will try to take a responsibility. I wish you get well soon. Sorry that this happened to you.
Durrant ********
Well.. You will listen to Facebook
John ******
Is this story even true ????
Barry ********
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@John *****
I wish it wasn't I'd swap with anyone
Barry ********
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It's poison in my system affecting all my vital organs it would appear pancreas kidneys liver immune system etc
John ******
What you have now bud does not sound like a concussion bud ? I am not a doctor however.
Ticha *****************
Get medical history from the hospital and visit public hospital or university hospital. Burapha University Hospital would be nearest university hospital. Chonburi hospital. Queen Savang Vadhana Memorial Hospital.
Barry ********
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@Ticha ****************
I fear its too late but thanks
Burnard ************
@Barry *******
Never too late until you stop trying
Alistair **********
@Barry *******
would agree with this, public hospitals whilst woeful conditions actually deal with complex cases. Private is about simple cases and making money.
Jae **********
To detox your kidneys make sure to drink one teaspoon to a tablespoon of apple cide vinegar in a glass of water everyday this would help balance blood sugar levels and reduce blood pressure and flush out toxin in your kidneys at this point make sure your learn some remedies at home while on the search for a great doctor , it sounds like you know some of the issue your having so do research on that
Philip *******
Drink as much water that is safe too look up the recommended fluid in take .
Barry ********
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@Philip ******
13 weeks ago
Tenzin ******
Hope you heal soon. Perhaps look to natural means? Your kidneys need to hold up while the stuffs pass out of your system and more drugs will mean it will work even harder than how it is right now as evident from your urine color. Diet and rest is crucial.
Barry ********
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@Tenzin *****
thanks 13 weeks now I've been fighting this
Philip *******
Lignocaine toxicity look this up may help you. Also seems a lot of injections if each one had a mixture of both drugs seems far to many . Kenalog dose is max 100mg daily .
Barry ********
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@Philip ******
I agree he didn't know what he was doing is my guess
Andy **********
@Barry *******
The doctor gave you 5mg and 10mg of each, according to a previous reply you gave. You say you aren't bad mouthing doctors, yet here you are with some sort of lie. What that doctor gave you is a perfectly normal dose at the low end.
Philip *******
Kenalog 40 comes in 40mg in one ml. So it wouldn't take long to reach 100mg .
Duncanc **********
BKK hospital is famous for upselling their patients with treatments that are unnecessary (like BRG they have a quota of sales that each doctor much achieve)

I hope you get the treatment you need asap.
Tim *********
I'm so sorry Barry. I hope someone finds you the help you need ā¤ļø
Barry ********
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@Tim ********
I'm praying for a miracle šŸ™
Roger *******
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Andy *********
Name and Shame the particular hospital and doctor so others may give them a wide berth. You have nothing to lose if you feel your terminally ill.
Jan **********
you can go request a copy of your file, the hospital is legally bound to give this and contact The Medical Council of Thailand.
Barry ********
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Been to 2 other hospitals had bo idea what to do
Barry ********
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@Jan *********
thanks no help to me now
Ian *******
@Barry *******
You get the file which will explain exactly what treatment you had.

The doctor involved, you then take your info to the next hospital.

If you say youā€™re sitting on the toilet all day and canā€™t get out to another hospital, how you gonna get fixed.

Gets some physical help
Barry ********
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@Ian ******
been to 2 other hospitals no idea what to do
Ron *******
What a load of bollox. There isn't a single member of staff there, from the lowest nursing staff, to the top consultants that cannot speak English.

You are certainly not given anything in Thai to sign or read that you cannot understand.

Even your prescription and bill are written in English for non Thai customers.

The whole post is garbage
Chris ******
@Ron ******
Funnily enough after reading this one word sprung to mind: Bollox..šŸ¤ 
Steve **********
@R**
my experience as well. Itā€™s the only hospital I have been to in Pattaya for the last 8 years and have always been spoken to in English and presented any documentation in 100% English.
Barry ********
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@Ron ******
up to you
Dave ****************
That said hospital wanted to do a full prostatectomy...after I went to complain of not being able to urinate ...one ultra sound and I was added if I have the money they can do it tomorrow...I did not feel right about how quickly he came to a diagnosis and as quickly talking about money . I returned home to Canada...and after many ct scans , ultrasound and mri , they found a large cancer tumour pushing against my urethra blocking my peeing ...I had a 12 hour surgery ...to remove it after many consultants of cancer surgeons ....

If I had gone for the quick conclusion of enlarge prostate ...I would be dead today

My only advise ..yes , broken bones , flu etc ...go to that hospital ....but never take them seriously...on serious health matters ...get another opinion
Stephen *********
'Halfway through, he got me to sign a piece of paper giving authorisation I guess. I don't speak Thai'.

I assume that you have had it translated since so that you are aware of what you signed!
Barry ********
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@Stephen ********
didn't get copy
Andy **********
With Google Glass no excuse now about not understanding a form
Stephen *********
So you just handed over the money?

From my experience of Thai hospitals, I've had reason to be an in -patient a couple of times upon payment you are given a copy of everything and 5* treatment.

I hope you get to the bottom of your health problems and get well soon.
Sidney *********
You must have the paperwork with the treatment and type of injections they gave you when you paid the bill etc.
Steve ********
What was injected ?
Barry ********
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Steve ********
@Barry *******
what substance did they inject into you
Barry ********
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@Steve *******
kanolane 10mg and chalicaine 5 mg
Steve ********
@Barry *******
are these spellings correct
Alistair **********
@Steve *******
yep, it's lidocaine for pain then kenalog. Corticosteroid.
Andy **********
@Alistair *********
It's an accepted method for selective nerve root block. Kenalog is now banned in the UK as it suppresses the immune system Any steroid will increase blood sugar and blood pressure. I don't understand how someone is diagnosed with concussion in the UK and isn't subsequently treated. And, no, waiting lists would not have been a factor.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
can I survive this ?
Andy **********
@Barry *******
I dunno. Besides being a diabetic (T1 or T2) what else is in your history? Kenalog or triamcinolone is an old medication, often used for hayfever. You shouldn't take it if you have certain types of spreading cancer. What were the reasons for the airline to deny you boarding in Thailand?
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
kenalog ?
Andy **********
@Barry *******
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Barry ********
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@Andy *********
they didn't deny boarding I didn't go
Andy **********
@Barry *******
Get yourself back to the UK
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
what can be done if anything
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
I know you are not a doctor but can you tell me if my muscles will keep reducing and my organs packing up please
Andy **********
@Barry *******
Well I am a Doctor of Microbiology. But my answer would be the same as a MD; no, I and they could not tell you that your muscles will continue to atrophy and that you will enter organ failure based on what you have said. You board a flight, and in 11 hours , take yourself to St Barts. Or, with a VPN, try out the NHS 111 online service. Its actually quite good at triaging, though I suspect it wll say take yourself to hospital. Your initial post was odd, first bad mouthing a nameless doctor and hospital, and then saying you're dying.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
didn't bad mouth any doctor stated facts and I feel like I'm dying every day when I wake up I can't get up because I feel so sick
Barry ********
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Not sure what this is about
Andy **********
@Barry *******
Well, you have been less than forthcoming about all the facts. You were in relatively poor health before being knocked out in the UK (how? fight? car crash? sports), you left without seeking advice while there, you not said when the diagnosis of concussion was actually made (the diagnosis needs to be done right away). You were well enough to be sarcastic to an honest question. You were slow to reveal the medication given, which turns out to be entirely normal for pain management. You've been repeatedly told these drugs would only be in your system a few weeks, but keep ignoring that. You did bad mouth a doctor, because you criticised his appearance, and then accused others of covering up. Given the frailty of your health (diabetes, no gall bladder, possible pancreatic cancer) before coming back to Thailand, you should have stayed in the UK. As it is, unless you see a doctor, you are likely to further deteriorate. No Facebook Miracle.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
I can't change your prejudged opinion I was looking for help
Andy **********
@Barry *******
Offering help. Help being either see a local doctor or get on a plane and see a UK doctor. And use NHS online service to get some kind of triage.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
correct hindsight and all that trying not to feel sorry myself and sharing so others don't make my mistakes but everyone can have their own opinion I've felt like death these 13 weeks evert minute of every day and night
Andy **********
@Barry *******
Explain why you are not reconsidering getting back to the UK. You think you are dying, so what is 11 hours of discomfort compared to having a fighting chance. You will still be in discomfort sitting at home. In worst case scenario, you have pancreatic cancer. It might have been there years, but is triggered by stress (being knocked out). If so, you might have 12-16 weeks left. Of course, it's probably not that. Could well be a parasitic worm.
Barry ********
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@Alistair *********
31 of these injections right in back and neck left me in pain and shock
Burnard ************
@Barry *******
I have known people who have had this treatment in the USA and they also had bad reactions. You take a risk anytime you jab needles into the CNS (Central Nervous System). The pain you felt from the injections would seem to indicate you was injecting directly into the nerves.

The only symptoms I have heard of, 3rd hand, is more, long lasting, pain. But, to be fair, I wouldn't know of the good results of this treatment because people only talk about medical treatments if they go wrong.

I hope he didn't confuse what he injected you with. You did say he looked, out-of-sorts.
Alistair **********
@Barry *******
the injections when given are incredibly painful, I've had them before. It's odd that it's resulted in these side effects.
Marc ********
@Alistair *********
Corticosteroid shouldn't do anything
Steve ********
@Marc *******
there are plenty of possible adverse reactions to it.
Alistair **********
@Marc *******
yeah it's odd
Barry ********
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@Marc *******
yes shouldn't have I've been told or it didn't I was told by hospital
Marc ********
@Barry *******
maybe the other substance was the problem. But not the corticosteroid
Barry ********
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@Marc *******
I'm praying it will come out of my body whatever it is but 13 weeks no hope I think my muscles gone completely I have dodgy pancreas and no gall bladder told this was a reason ?
Alistair **********
@Marc *******
the other ones just lidocaine for numbing
Marc ********
@Alistair *********
Lidocaine I don't know but corticosteroid I was given many times.

Relief of allergies, scars, bumps
Barry ********
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Evan ******
Praying for you.
John *********
@Evan *****
That'll work.
Chris *******
Why did you leave UK knowing you had a concussion?
Barry ********
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Survivable or not ?
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
not stopped didn't check in. I had his test because the hospital ordered it as part of tests to see what was wrong i was knocked out in UK doctor in Thailand told me the muscles started falling off a week after injections
Andy **********
@Chris ******
He says he is too ill to travel but a week ago was asking about going back to the UK.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
you seem very knowledgeable can I live through this will these injections ever leave my body I didn't do this on purpose I'm scared oit my wits and looking for a miracle
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
yes and I was too ill to travel get it ?
Andy **********
@Barry *******
How come you were well enough to travel from the UK with diagnosed concussion? No doctor would allow that. Which A&E department diagnosed you with concussion and then allowed you to walk out. Did you inform the airline in the UK you had concussion. You had the nerve block treatment in September, and until just a week ago were only concerned about renewing a visa. The lidocaine and steroid would only stay in your system for 2-3 weeks. I think your sudden weight loss is not due to that. There could be a variety of reasons including cancer or HIV infection. You need to see a doctor not consult Facebook.
Barry ********
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@Andy *********
not hiv could be cancer now a week ago I was desperate to go back to England now I'm too ill thanks my question was is this survivable you seem to be knowledgeable I keep losing muscle and sugar levels up pancreas not working
Wayne ******
@Barry *******
as a diabetic myself...you should be monitoring your glucose levels and adjust your diet accordingly....as for the Diarrhea you can get immodium ...and make sure you are hydrated ...which you are not as you say your pee is brown...2hich says your kidneys are failing...please go see a doctor who can save your kidneys ...you need 3 litres of fluid day .
Andy **********
@Barry *******
The airline stopped you boarding? Why do you feel the need to regularly hiv test. Is it something about your lifestyle that flags that? There's a 100 reasons for the sudden weight loss. How did you suffer concussion, and how did you know you had it?
Barry ********
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@Step ****
no hiv but thanks
Step *****
@Barry *******
why did you erase my comment? Itā€™s your 8 Covid shots and booster your problem, your immune system is dead
Jim ********
@Step ****
Don't turn this post into your conspiracy bullshit
Lynnette *******
Could this have been a type of Botox injections? Do they use this for some sort headache treatment? It's used in some cases of brain problems.
Barbara *********
@Lynnette ******
That is my guess too. Botox is given for chronic migraine pains.

Everything is in his medical report. He should get a copy of it and seek a second opinion at any of the other hospitals many have suggested to him. I think he should go it quickly. His leg does not look so good.
Marc ********
If you don't tell us the name of the hospital how can we know not to go there?

A crow will never pick out another crow's eye
Marcel *******
@Marc *******
A hospital that is in Pattaya and whose headquarters is in Bkk. Is not difficult. Bangkok hospital Pattaya . However, I have only had good experiences there
Nigel **************
Lynnette *******
Not sure why you'd have injections for concussion. If the doctor didn't speak English how did you explain your medical condition? I've had concussion and it can take a long time to recover from, but I didn't have any medical intervention for it.
Jake *******
@Lynnette ******
Exactly. I've never heard of anyone getting injections to treat a concussion, especially trigger point injections...
Alistair **********
Siriraj is a highly regarded public hospital that tends to deal with complex cases. They have a private hospital connected called Siriraj Piyamaharajkarun Hospital, might be worth consideration.
Barry ********
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Cab hardly get off toilet
Nigel **************
Bangkok Pattaya Hospital on Sukhumvit Road. If it is this hospital then your awful experience comes as a great shock as this hospital has a great reputation. I do my annual check up there every year and never had reason to question anything they did. Can u get to Bkk and go to Bumrungrad or Samitivej hospital for advice?
Malasee *******
@Nigel *************
I would rush to bumrungrad.
Nigel **************
@Malasee ******
yep I suggested he do that too
Malasee *******
@Nigel *************
Iā€™m a nurse it almost sounds like he is going through a form of rhabdomyolysis ļ漚Ÿ˜“šŸ˜“
Kenny **********
If I was you I would get some tests made to check your infection parameters. Especially check for staff infections of various types. This could explain your symptoms.
Kenny **********
@Nigel *************
I been there myself and I also had a crap experience.
Peter *********
Why didn't you take your thai wife with to translate?
Barry ********
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@Peter ********
hindsight eh
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@Doc *******
maybe you could help with this.
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