How should one prepare for living in Thailand (Bangkok) for a year? Health Insurance, Bank stuff, etc.
Coming from US + my income will still be USD. Any advice would be great.
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Preparing for a year of living in Bangkok involves several practical steps: 1) **Health Insurance**: Purchase local health insurance that allows direct payment to hospitals to avoid upfront costs. 2) **Banking**: Maintain two US bank accounts and establish a Thai bank account for easier transactions. Use Wise for money transfers. 3) **Phone and SIM**: Get a local SIM card to facilitate communication and verification processes with your US bank. 4) **Cultural Awareness**: Understand Thai culture to avoid confrontations and foster respect. 5) **Money Management**: Be mindful of currency exchange and have a reliable international banking solution. 6) **Prepare for Culture Shock**: Acknowledge potential emotional adjustments and stay connected with supportive communities. 7) **Logistics**: Organize mail forwarding and keep a stateside phone number where necessary.
Anyone has experience with Bangkok Bank health insurance?
Terry ********
Change it to Thai baht.
Walker *********
Get a Charles Schwab bank account and atm card. They reimburse all international ATM fees forever, and it does add up.
Get a local health insurance in Thailand or an international plan. No need for US coverage, and the international or local is
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the price or less. Or just pay cash bc everything is so much cheaper. Get a basic emergency travel insurance in case you're out cold and don't have the option to research hospitals but if you are conscious you can find affordable treatment for virtually anything.
When you arrive go to the US Embassy and write you address on a form and tell them that its correct and they will notarize it. You can use this to go to Bangkok Bank and get a local bank account and debit card without further requirements. The other banks all require work visas (unless you get lucky at some branch that waives that requirement.) With a Thai bank account you can pay with your phone "pay scan" and it makes transactions much easier bc many places don't accept credit cards for small payments or they charge a fee. Also you can shop on Shoppee which doesn't work for US cards, and more importantly you can shop at local vendors you find on instagram or facebook like the Thai, and get great prices on good stuff.
Prepare for visa runs every 3 months or put in the effort to arrange a medical tourism visa or thai language school visa.
I remember one who said "why you forget me?"... š¤£š¤£š¤£
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Greg ********
How about your forwarding mail address? Do you have a virtual mailbox? Did you make one in a state that has state income taxes? Can that state claim you have residency there and therefore must pay state income taxes? Florida and texas do not have state income tax so setting one up there lessens the chance of any problems in the future. Use skype app for calling the usa 800 numbers. Its free and i can guarantee you will need it to sort out banking or tax messes
I went through that hassle with North Carolina. I think every state will be different. Basically, NC felt that since my mailing address was NC I needed to pay NC taxes. I raised complaint and they told me I could go to the other jurisdiction and request a credit. That was stupid advice but my taxes aren't their problem.
This year I moved to a virtual mailbox in Texas and have none of the state taxes deducted. The point really is the address on the W2 is key. Also, getting money from a government body is more difficult than paying them.
I may be able avoid federal taxes but that would require I pay taxes in Thailand, which requires work, which requires work permit, which require....
I will collect Social Security from the Federal government so I am content to continue to pay federal taxes.
If you have proper visa you probably can open a Thai bank account. I just transfer my living expenses to my Thai bank account monthly. I can not deposit checks to my US bank account, (you know photo of the check uploaded in the phone). My bank detects I am not in the US and they don't allow it. Virtual Credit Card is a service my bank offers but only kinda works in Thailand. Most of the day-to-day stuff will be cash based. I pay rent in cash, buy groceries cash, etc. etc.
when you deposit checks online using the banking app you are doing it over the internet. I think maybe you need a vpn. Try going to airplane mode and connect to wifi. Also, when checks get sent to your virtual mailbox have them scanned. You can print out the check and endorse it and deposit it online. Wait until its accepted *posted transaction, by the bank then have your mailbox shred it. No need to pay international mail to send original check
I did recently deposit a check from my virtual mailbox. They have a form to fill out and then the check gets sent to the bank. It takes a bit longer and I am not sure how reliable it is, but the one time I did it, it worked.
yea thats what they call check cashing service and its something like $10 for each check. My bank does not accept the service for some reason but its a very small bank
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Melissa *********
I would add to some off the banking advice above... I found that parts of my bank's app and website did not work out of the US even with a VPN. I lost the ability to transfer money between banks with Zelle. Every time I called the bank to try to figure out why it was happened they didn't know why... it took a lot of work to figure it out. If you can know these things in advance its so helpful.
Find out if your American credit cards have 3D protection- its the international standard for security and most Thai apps don't seem to work if the card doesn't have it. So for example, Chase credits cards are a problem on grab but not in person.
And I completely agree with an above comment about US phone numbers. You can find out in advance if your bank requires two factors authentication for certain things. I ported my US phone number to a VOIP service. Some text messages do not come though there. Most banks/companies I have been able to figure out how to make it work but it was a painful process to sort though it. It was really convexity to keep the same US number and just transfer it to the VOIP service.
Culture shock was mentioned somewhere also- if you can learn about culture shock and reverse culture shock in advance, it can be helpful. Knowing what is normal and what to expect in the different layers of this experience is helpful in understanding your responses to things.
try different vpnās when that happens. I had the same thing happen and found out the hard way that not all vpnās are the same. Also, banks are getting better at spotting virtual numbers and blocking them. My advice is to keep your usa cell service just for banking and other two step verifications
l remember when l opened my bank account they asked if l had a US passport they seemed happy when l said Australian. Think US passport creates more work for them.
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Mark ********
I was there for a year and used lazada.com like crazy. They usually accepted my American debit card for payments. So that's an option if you need some things delivered like Amazon is in America. They may require you to have a thai phone number though.
me too, my house is difficult to find. The house numbers are not sequential where I live, my street doesn't exist on google maps and none of the sois around me are named. Making the delivery drivers do cash on delivery, makes them try harder to find me, instead of them disposing of a prepaid package. Has worked every time and I have never had an item undelivered
Yes. I never fully understood Thai addresses. I just wrote my wife's address as best as I could and hoped they'd find it. But I'd get calls needing more details and I had no idea how to tell them anything more. Addresses in the US are so simple and short.
my understanding is that Thai street numbers are allocated in the order that the plot of land was bought ie not sequentially as in Western countries. My house number is
they call you to your number on file to make sure you are home. If you do not answer, they do not come. Sometimes the seller does not do COD, then I look for another one. I try not to give my credit card number, but then, it is my own paranoia... š¤£
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Arnie ************
Run the garden hose with spray attachment into your toilet, and practice, practice, practice.
Marriage is highly over-rated, regardless of country.
And there are plenty of places far more suitable for seeking true love than Pattaya.
Still, it DOES happen here from time to time. Rare enough to be remarkable, true. Itās the exception that proves the rule: NEVER fall in love with a bar girl.
But if you do get lucky and find a good one (against all odds), youāre in for the time of your life.
Just a girl from Sisaket that works for krungsri in Bangkok. And itās a good time š. reason for me to marry is that she could inherit without losing 50% on taxes and for easy visa.
actually, her family will become your family, and the great expectation is that you will be the provider for them all. After all, all farangs are rich, even if they are not.
I've personally seen people bleeding from busted foreheads (off low door frames) and clipped toes (off moving rolling gates). No need to walk around egg shells but do proceed slowly and with an abundance of caution. Some people have not recovered well, some, not at all.
am only glad the locals forgave me for all my transgressions so far, but am well aware my good luck can run out, so I always look and think before I open my mouth (how would *they* proceed if they were in my place"). That's the reason for the old adage, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" š
I forgot to mention the lady co-worker who suffered scrapes on both legs after falling through a rain drainage hole (the metal screen was oxidized and weakened). Danger is just around the corner. We are not in Kansas anymore. š¤£
A quick rabbit like brain? Hare brained? Or hair for brains? Dead hair. English doesn't always make sense.
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Damien ********
Why not google YouTube Thailand expats where thereās stacks of people who detail who where what cost etc ā¦.One should prepare by doing some research yourself
Thatās a good point and bold of you to not assume I did not already. However, itās different when I have real accessible people responding to me in real time with updated information
Perfect. Thank you for being another resource for me. Will come to you for any additional advice I need
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Jason **********
One of the few *exemplary* responses for those who just want to know the ropes before making such a big move. In my book, your posts are much needed in these forums,
Thank you for the advice ,coming in Nov ,will adhere to it
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Also be aware you may experience "culture shock". It creeps up on you as an episode of unexplained anger. It may come after 6 weeks or 6 months but we al get over it.
I experienced just the opposite- I was shocked at how much the USA had changed in just a year and a half away. When I visited briefly I couldnāt get back to Thailand fast enough!
the two are worlds apart and "dance to the beat of a different drummer". I also find just about eveything in LOS moves at a snail's pace. It is only now that we can smoke pot, a roadside weed, without fear of a long holiday at the "BKK Hilton" š¤£
And funny as well because it's true even after 8years
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James ***********
Currency exchange is very good these days...USD conversion here = good buying power here. But always stay aware of the rates. Make sure you an international bank account that will facilitate transfer of funds -- Chase is good.
James ************
Cancel your car insurance at home and maybe council tax ,heating ,
Kev **********
Thank you for this post very helpful to me as well.
1. Buy health insurance from a Thai company (Only a tiny percentage of western insurance companies have a direct pay to hospital agreement with Thai hospitals, which means you have to pay the bill in full and hope your insurance pays you back). Most hospitals have a list of insurance carriers who they accept direct payment from. Check out the lists from a couple hospitals you might use before signing up for insurance.
2. Keep two US bank accounts. (in case one gets closed - US banks often dislike customers who spend too much time abroad and will cut you off given the slightest excuse). Also, make sure you set up the online banking ap BEFORE leaving the US. See above.
3. Get a Thai bank account with a good ap and a debit card. Can be done with any type of visa but you may have to try a few different branches. I find Bangkok Bank the easiest but there are other good choices too.
4. Use Wise to transfer money from your US bank to Thai bank.
5. ALWAYS have a plan B. And plan C.
6. Make sure you inform your US bank(s) of your travel itinerary so they donāt decline your credit or debit card when you try to use it here. You can usually do that in the bank ap.
7. Get a Thai SIM card and phone number upon arrival. Make sure the ap is set up properly on your phone before leaving the shop.
8. If possible, try to keep a USA phone number for banking business, verifications, etc. Be aware that financial institutions actively seek to block usage of virtual phone #s for any kind of āofficialā changes or verifications. Even resetting a password or changing a PIN can become a huge problem if you donāt have a working US phone number that is deemed acceptable.
9. Set up a VPN before leaving the USA and use it religiously on all your devices. And setting one up from outside the US can be tricky.
10. Have your mail receiving, scanning and forwarding via email sorted before you leave. Either with a VERY trusted relative or friend, or use a commercial virtual mailbox with an address in a state that has no income tax.
11. If youāre planning on working to cover your expenses while here, make sure you have a firm grasp of Thai immigration policies, Visa and work permits. If you choose to break the rules, first understand the potential risks and consequences of doing so.
12. Thais are a completely different culture from Americans. Understand basic social and cultural protocols here to avoid possible rough situations. They have kings and queens, prime minister and other officials who took power via a coup and can be very touchy about things you wouldnāt expect. From bar security staff to motorcycle taxi drivers to Thai boyfriends to the PoPo, they WILL fuck you up if you show too much ass and get confrontational. But they can also be surprisingly forgiving and helpful if you show a little respect, humility and courtesy.
13. Most westerners find the language to be extremely difficult to learn. But give it a serious shot. You CAN get by with zero Thai language skillls, but most Thais really appreciate it when falangs at least try. Plus itās good to know what theyāre saying about you when they think you donāt understand.
14. Stay far away from toxic expats who whine about every damn trivial thing and ridicule everything Thai constantly. Not every expat suffers from this ugly disease, so cultivate friendships with those who actually like Thailand and its people.
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Not sure if this was on the list...but a good repair person. Everybody says "yes...can do"...even if they have never done it before. Ask around as there is no need to vet another "can do" guy.
And then when they are doing the "repair, painting, plumbing or electrical work just be around to poke your head over a shoulder every once in a while. The stories I have heard or seen at my place would be a book or...3...of WTF moments in the history of home repairs.
Bathrooms showers that still do not drain after 2nd time of them trying...even with a laser leveler. Electrical plugs put in spots that were told not to...and even crossing out their markings on the wall with an arrow to the exact spot I wanted it. Curtains that were screwed into drywall with nothing behind it to hold...all they needed was maybe just a second screw closer than the 1.5 or 2 meters apart. And this was after I had to supply the step ladder and screwdriver that they forgot when bringing the new curtains to install. Interior sliding door railing that was riveted into an aircon metal duct that pulled through and some how then broke the glass in the door....more to the list but my head is throbbing now.
No. 14! š¤£š¤£ There really is nothing worse than sitting in a bar lstening to an old expat moaning about everything Thai, while sitting in a Thai bar, drinking Thai beer, whilst all the time desperatly trying to think of ways to save 5 baht! Go back to your own country then you miserable tight old fart! š¤£
I can believe that. Of course, itās a rapidly changing world, and especially vis-a-vis the USA, the government has become far more intrusive into our affairs, and a lot of previously uncomplicated things are now . . .complicated.
My health insurance david shield has a debt card they gave me works anywhere in the world I pay directly to Thai hospitals with it no reinvestment necessary