What is the process for extending a retirement visa in Thailand, and how long must funds be held in the account?

May 28, 2024
7 months ago
Russell *******
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Changawattana Retirement annual extension done today.

* Booked online for 2pm

* Absolutely no parking made a 100 baht donation to park in a vip spot

* In and out in under 1 hour
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The user successfully completed their retirement visa extension at the Changwattana Immigration Office in under one hour after booking an appointment online. They faced parking challenges, resorting to a donation for a VIP spot. The comments reflect interest in the financial requirements for the retirement visa extension, particularly the 800K fund, and curiosity about the efficiency of using an agent for the process.
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James *******
Wow you're so flash!
Todd *********
So you went to your bank, collected all the necessary documents. Drove all the way to CM for your appt. Drove around looking for parking and finally paid 100 baht. Then drove back home in BKK traffic. I wonder how much an agent charges so I don't have to bother and can just enjoy my retirement?
Damo ***********
@Todd ********
Here is an idea.. get off the keyboard (and off your ar$3) and go speak to an agent and find out the cost.. then come back and tell everyone your discovery? f00l!
Peter *********
@Damo **********
very well said đź‘Ź
Russell *******
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@Todd ********
The beauty of Thailand is you have options. You do you. I'm posting this info for the those who do it themselves.
Peter *********
@Todd ********
agent
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baht compared to 1900 baht him doing it himself
John ********
@Peter ********
If guys aren't bothered about paying an agent it's Upto them. I suspect there's a lot of sour grapes by expats who think it's my way or the highway.
Todd *********
@Peter ********
14-16k more likely. And you leave 800k at home making 5% = 40k annually so you profit about 24k annually by using an agent. Versus losing 1900 baht standing in line... There is a fairly compelling financial argument for using agent. I know i would prefer 24k in my pocket than losing 1900 to immigration
Stuart ***********
@Todd ********
and what if the immigration officer is convicted for taking bribes and your visa cancelled? Yes it does happen, there was a guy complaining about this a week or two ago and he had to start the whole visa process again. It might be rare, but not worth the risk. You can always convert to the 65,000 baht monthly method instead.
Peter *********
Kool *******
@Todd ********
here is something to consider, and dealing with real numbers, if you are making your 5% with your bt800,000 staying in Canada, then you also have to take into account the math of the inflation rate in Canada to get your true profit on your 5% interest growth on your bt800,000 of 3%, giving you a real profit of just 2%, but that is gross profit before taxes. Without the tax consideration you are at a bt16,000 gross profit, before taxes. If you keep that same bt800,000 in a Thai bank you do not make your 5% profit, but, just as in Canada, if you just hold onto that as cash, you lose what the inflation rate is in money value. You would lose 3% (bt24,000), without any investment in Canada. This is just an example to better illustrate the real numbers. Your bt800,000 in a Thai bank account would draw no interest, or 2% at the most (I'm not sure why, but one of my Thai accounts draws interest). At no interest you would lose what the inflation rate is for Thailand, and I know it's hard to believe, but the year on year inflation rate for Thailand in just 0.19%. What's that, about bt2500? I won't bore you with the rest of the math, but if you can not get an agent to get your extension for less than bt16,000, as that is the break even point between keeping the money in Canada, or leaving it in a Thai bank. At bt25,000 for an agent you lose bt9000 by keeping your money in Canada because of the differences in the inflation rates in each country. Keep your money in Thailand, and lose just 0.19%, or keep it in Canada, and lose 1+% by using an agent. Most forget about inflation, and it's effect on real costs, and that it is not the same in every country.
Todd *********
@Kool ******
i like where you are headed with the math but you missing some key factors as well. First and foremost, the currency exchange costs as well as transfer fees to send the money to die in Thailand.

For clarity, I leave money in high interest countries. Currently Mexico where it makes 8% and federal govt tax withholds at 10% so net gain is 7.2% annually. PLUS the peso added an additional 6%. So net 13.2%. On 800k that’s 105,600 baht. Agent cost would be 16k. That’s a massive win. Imagine the poor sods trudging to immigration and the bank to stand in line!

The thinking around the inflation rate is sound! 3% or worse in Canada (my pensions indexing was actually 4.2%). However, that money isn’t being spent in Canada. It’s being spent in other countries including Thailand. So the applicable rate of inflation is that of the country where the money is being spent.
Borune ***********
@Todd ********
I guess you work as a an agent otherwise I don't understand your mathematics. You still have to show up in immigration in person.
Peter *********
@Todd ********
obviously you new the answer already why comment 🙄
Todd *********
@Peter ********
because as we see here.... there are a few chronic bullshitters here. You know it doesn't cost 25k but you that didn't stop you from a dishonest answer.
Chris *********************
@Todd ********
you at it again gob shite
Peter *********
@Todd ********
no some agents in Pattaya charging
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for a non o retirement visa so how I lie ?
Todd *********
@Peter ********
it’s possible… but certainly not the norm. Pattaya in general is the least expensive spot for agents because so many are there
Jan ******************
@Todd ********
I mean to recall you’re Canadian after some discussion you’ve done with other Canadians previously? As far as I know your embassy still offers to give you a affidavit letter to confirm your income and you therefore don’t need to prove any income or funds in any other way. Then it’s just 1900 baht for the extension and 200-300 baht for the affidavit letter.
Todd *********
@Jan *****************
yes - the embassy does still offer the letter of affidavit. Totally agree that the 65k method is an excellent way to go for anyway whose embassy supplies the letter. No banking headaches and no dead money (800k) sitting around.
Peter *********
@Todd ********
friend did it April used agent in Pattaya didn't have
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0 in thai bank and charged him
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baht
Phil ******
@Peter ********
some in Pattaya are ฿12,500 if you have your own bank account
Peter *********
@Phil *****
yes but if not have funds in bank
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Phil ******
Rz ***
Would you mind sharing the 800K how long does it need to be in the account for the retirement extension please? Thanks
Declan **********
@Rz **
2 months prior to the application for extension, and 3 months after, cannot drop below 400k for the remainder of your extension.
Rz ***
@Declan *********
thank you so much for this information was very helpful. By any chance would you happen to know the checklist of documents required for the extension please?
Ken ***********
Nice to hear
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