What happens if my Non-O visa funds dip below 800,000 THB for a few hours, and how would immigration know?

Aug 13, 2020
4 years ago
Andy ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I got a Non-O visa with a 12 month extension based on being over 50 recently and this required having 800k in the bank. I seem to recall I can not gi below 400k at all and the account must be above 800k for the first couple of months.

My question is twofold. First what are the implications of going below the 800k for a few hours (I have an auto payment going out and money from UK going in in the same day) so it may dip under by about 19k for a few hours.....

and secondly how would they ever know or just risky whenever I apply for a further 12 month extension?

many thanks.
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The Non-O visa requires maintaining a minimum balance of 800,000 THB for a specified period before and after visa renewal. If your account dips below this amount for a short time due to transactions, it can pose potential risks during renewal applications, as immigration offices may scrutinize bank statements and transaction history. While some offices may be lenient, others may require strict adherence to these financial requirements, and any instances of non-compliance can lead to complications such as having to restart the visa application process.
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Andy ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Well my Transfer from the UK came through early so all good but a lesson for me to keep a bigger buffer or as suggested a separate account for the 800k
Guy ***********
They look at the transactions and get confused instead of just looking down the balance column 🤔
Guy ***********
@Andy *******
good idea to keep it as a separate account. My office has a problem if it sees transactions during the year apart from t/f 400k to my daily account when it's available and back again when it's due !
Guy ***********
I once went under 800k by 49 BAHT for a few MINUTES and had to start the process from new which included a new visa from Malaysia. Very expensive mistake.
Guy ***********
Mae Sot (servicing Sukhothai at the time)
Colin **********
@Guy **********
which office?
Philip **********
They’ll simply check your bank statements ... it’s very easy for them .
Colin **********
On my Thaii Wife visa I took some money out of my account holding my 400KTHB seasoning fund, I put it back with 30 mins and it was OK with immigration, so i think it depends on the office
James ********
@Colin *********
not same same. Those that are required to maintain 800k are different from those on 400k Married...

Know the rules.

If your 800k drops below 800k first three months or two months before ectension time...

Or... falls below 400k all other months... before renewal...

Start over with new retirement application.

For Married 400k...

No requirement to keep 400k in bank AFTER first month of UNDER CONSIDERATION time period...

Other than two months before application.
Colin **********
@James *******
in Prachinburi you have to have 3 months after renewal, (ThaiWife) I know its not correct but its there rule, my point was more about it dropping below the required level where it was ok, seen as a mistake quickly put right.
James ********
@Colin *********
WOW...yep different rules among 70+ immigration offices.

Thanks for update info.
@Tod ********
Colin **********
Tod *********
yep and that seasoning is 2 months date to date NOT 60 days so if your money was at 800 on Jan 1st you couldn't apply until March 1st which is actually only 59 days :O Same for the 3 months after your extension is granted for the 800K to stay in the account, it's date to date AND it has nothing to do with any 90 day reporting.

IF you use an immigration office that requires you to come back they will give you a paper when you get your yearly extension that tells you when and states the rule about it like this
Tod *********
i know that says 90 day bank checking in engrish BUT the rule in thai is 3 months :P
Craig **********
I got rejected once because the date I went to renew was 1 day out from being 2 months.! saying that I have never been asked to return 3 months later.
Tod *********
the rules are simple IF you're using banked money for a yearly extension based on being over 50 (retirement) you need to have 800K baht in your account for 2 months before you apply, the 800K needs to stay in your account for 3 months after you get your extension and then the balance can't go below 400k baht for the rest of the year.

Some offices give you a paper that states you need to update your bank book and come back 3 months after you were granted the extension to show them you still have the 800K in the account BUT most do not.

The way they will check is they will have you bring in a year's worth of balance history when you get your next extension and look at the balance every month.

Now whether a mix up of that out/in funds thing like you outlined will mess you up or not I couldn't say BUT I'd sure move the dates of something so that you don't do that regularly.
Andy ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
one final question. Does the 3 month period start from when the extension was issued or from when the extention starts?
Tod *********
@Andy *******
the day you apply/get it stamped in is the date the 3 months starts, same as the 2 month seasoning before is before you APPLY not before your extension expires ;)
Andy ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
Brilliant, thank you👌
Andy ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
Thanks Todd. In Chiang Mai they never asked me to come back with my bank book after 3 months. I'll hold back my rental payment for a day and make sure I transfer more money earlier in future. I was being greedy with the exchange rate😄

Many thanks again👍
Claude **********
@Andy *******
I suggest you get a second bank account and use this one for payments, leave the first one with 800k and never touch it unless there is an emergency. That’s what I am doing.
Ian ******
@Claude *********
I do same mate.

Best thing.
Wannikea *********
@Andy *******
not trying the change the subject, but in Thailand you have 5 days to pay your rent.
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