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What bank letter do I need for my Thai non-O extension application to prove my international transfers?
Looking to renew my non-o extension retirement visa (1 year), I meet the monthly international transfer deposits of ฿65K (baht) per month actually I'm averaging around ±฿96K (baht) per month for the last 12 months of international transfers however I'm currently transferring over 35 times a month per month every month for the last 12 months, with an average transfer amount of ฿2740 (baht) & about 427 international transfers into my Thai bank account from my international bank, which shows up on my Thai bank account as a domestic transfer or 'transfer deposit' and is labeled as 'trade finance' or 'transfer deposit' on my Thai bank statement.... my question is what bank letter do I need from my Thai bank that will satisfy (or meet the immigration requirements) so that it shows or proves or is evident that the bank acknowledges & certifies that these 427 transfer deposits are in fact 'international transfers' & not domestic transfers into my account... is it one certification letter from the bank or do I need the bank to certify & confirm that each separate transfer is an international transfer... what will satisfy immigration requirements that must be provided by the bank in order for the immigration to approve or accept the bank's verification of such transfers? Is it a bank certification letter an official bank verification certificate letter & what shall the wording on the letter be for immigration to verify & accept the bank letter into my visa application for further processing of my non-o visa 1-year extension? Please only comment if you have 1st hand or direct experience with this scenario before & what you had to provide to immigration from your Thai bank so as to satisfy immigration requirements for further processing (& approval) of your non-o extension visa? Please do not comment if you're only speculating rather only comment if you know what is required to produce from the Thai bank for me to take to immigration along with my application & necessary supporting documentation... khàwp khun khráp 🙏
Answer summary
The user seeks advice on obtaining a bank letter to satisfy Thai immigration requirements for renewing their non-O retirement visa based on monthly international transfers. They currently meet the transfer criteria with an average of ฿96K but have been labeled as domestic transfers. They are unsure whether one letter suffices or if individual confirmations are needed for each transfer to validate them as international. Community feedback highlights the necessity of a bank confirmation letter validating the international nature of the funds, emphasizing practical solutions and the importance of complying with immigration rules for a successful application.
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Talented*********
OPThanks for all your comments... (except for a few nasties towards the end) ... turning off commenting now as I know the way forward... khàwp khun khráp 🙏
John *********
It’s not what you are doing, it’s how you are doing it.
Talented*********
OPJohn N Kwan please elaborate
Todd *********
Chok Dee. You are gonna need it. Meanwhile - try a good agent to facilitate this year
John **********
You have put yourself in quite a predicament with such a convoluted arrangement. Both the bank and immigration will be somewhat pissed off. As things stand ONLY the transfers that show in your bank as international transfers will count towards the 65k per month transfer requirement. For each of the other transfers to count you will need to go to the bank where the funds entered Thailand and ask them to provide a "Confirmation letter of International Funds Transfer", without that those marked as domestic transfers can't be used for an extension of stay.
Additionally if your current extension of stay was based on the 800k baht method then you must also show you met the terms of that extension, so a minimum of 800k baht in your account for the 1st 3 months and never dropping below 400k baht at any point for the duration of the extension or you won't get your next extension in any case.
Additionally if your current extension of stay was based on the 800k baht method then you must also show you met the terms of that extension, so a minimum of 800k baht in your account for the 1st 3 months and never dropping below 400k baht at any point for the duration of the extension or you won't get your next extension in any case.
Talented*********
OP@John *********
oh really well that never happened... off to immigration now to get clarity & confirmation... It's not possible to leave that amount in the bank untouched since I live off those funds in any rateJohn **********
TalentedZebra1189 if you haven't met the terms of your current extension of stay you won't get the next extension regardless of meeting the criteria for monthly transfers
Talented*********
OP@John *********
I've met all the requirements put forth to me by my current visa conditions & I've complied with every visa stipulation put forth to me thus far
Keith ************
The way immigration verifies foreign transactions is typically by looking at the code on the bank statements. If yours aren't coded as foreign transactions, you may need to get what's called credit advice on each transaction. That doesn't seem practical.
The bank letter is basically the bank saying that the account is yours and the balance is as shown. You can try to see if the bank can issue some other sort of letter, but I don't think they will.
You can also go to immigration and plead your case. But in my experience they just point at the rulebook.
Most of us that have been here a while take the attitude that the less hassle we make it for immigration, the less trouble we have. If I were you, I'd pay an agent this time and set yourself up for next year.
If you have the option, start making your deposits to a non Thai bank now. Then, once a month, transfer 65k or more into Thailand. Make sure it's coded as a foreign transaction. Consider having a separate bank account for this, so all that immigration sees is international transfers, one per month, for the year.
The bank letter is basically the bank saying that the account is yours and the balance is as shown. You can try to see if the bank can issue some other sort of letter, but I don't think they will.
You can also go to immigration and plead your case. But in my experience they just point at the rulebook.
Most of us that have been here a while take the attitude that the less hassle we make it for immigration, the less trouble we have. If I were you, I'd pay an agent this time and set yourself up for next year.
If you have the option, start making your deposits to a non Thai bank now. Then, once a month, transfer 65k or more into Thailand. Make sure it's coded as a foreign transaction. Consider having a separate bank account for this, so all that immigration sees is international transfers, one per month, for the year.
Rose *****
LOL well if you aren't willing to follow the rules they set then why are you even here? This post is absurd. Go back to your nation state and you don't have to follow any immigration rules.
Talented*********
OPKeith Livingston yep ideally that would be the case ... however one needs to understand or be willing to understand that not everyone lives in an ideal world or in an ideal circumstance regarding this issue & thus steps had to be taken to make sure the requirements were at least met as well as provide myself a good amount of disposable capital so that I could enjoy my life living here as I have done in 12 other countries in the past (each place has a different capital requirement or visa requirement system) so I have tried to adopt & adhere to the Thai requirement system since that is where I currently am
Graham ******
You are not going to be polular when the Immigration Officer has to add 35 transfers for each of the 12 months to ensure you meet the 65k requirement. How did you get your extension last year, 800k or 65k and, if 800k, did you maintain the 800k for 3 months into the extension them never drop below 400k for the rest of the year?
Talented*********
OPGraham Seal that's also one of my concerns plus the fact that the current bank statement printout doesn't label or show 'international transfer' so I have to show the sending bank bank statement so that the IO can reconcile the paperwork if they wish to ... there's no other way to show it really... so far I've printed out more than 200 pages of bank statements & the only way to reconcile them is to go through all 427 transfers one by one line item by line item & I doubt that will happen too
Greg ***********
TalentedZebra1189 Immigration will refuse to check your application. Just maintain the minimum of 800,000 THB in your account and refrain from switching to the bank transfer method
Talented*********
OPGraham Seal it's irrelevant what occurred previously... all that's relevant which I'm focusing on is my current visa which I have carried through successfully to completion is about to expire hence a renewal of extension is required (If I would like to remain here) & I made the decision 12 months ago to switch to the monthly transfer method which I've managed to do quite substantially (by 30K more on avg) & that has always been my intention from that time on which I have completed with great consistency dedication discipline & determination so let's see how that plays out with immigration's requirements (& understanding) going forward ... it wasn't a walk in the park to do it that way but it was the best way for me to meet the required monthly amount ... I knew that I would be in this predicament some 3-4 months ago yet could change nothing since the decision was made already from the beginning as the only way I was prepared to meet the necessary requirements
Talented*********
OPGraham Seal I'll take it one step at a time next step see what immigration says & see what the bank can provide in that regard ... thanks for your constructive input & feedback
Graham ******
TalentedZebra1189 so your current extension was based on 800k which you maintained for the first 3 months of the extension and never dropped below 400k for the rest of the year while you have been doing these 12 months of transfers?
Graham ******
TalentedZebra1189 Time for a plan B maybe
Talented*********
OPGreg Alexander that's not possible as I rely on the monthly bank transfer method as I set out to do 12 months ago & besides I need to reapply in 2 weeks so the 800K method will not suffice now either anyway so that's out of the question now
Alasdair ******
I care. However, my renewal was rejected and it took me 200k, many trips etc to fix. Best of luck
Talented*********
OPAlasdair Munn totalling over ฿1.5 million over 15 months (all expensed out)... if that's not worth it or acceptable then nothing will be ... really
Talented*********
OPAlasdair Munn thanks 200K is out of the question... if transferring 96K per month on average is not acceptable then nothing will be really in the long run & then I'll have to make a more eternal decision which may have to be made
Alan **********
I know nobody cares, but i am officially ignoring posts with 20+ lines without any blank lines to break it up to make it readable, AND posts and/or comments made with NICKNAMES. 🤣
Talented*********
OPAlan Rothwell let me explain it in a few short point form lines so you can read & understand it easier
- currently transferring an average of ±฿96K per month into my Thai bank account
- Average international transfer is ±฿2,740 averaging over 35 transfers per month for the last 12 months
The question (I'm asking) is ...
What bank letter or bank certification letter is needed for me from the bank that immigration will accept to process my application because under the current requirements I qualify (just need to prove it to immigration via a bank certification & verification letter)
Follow up question... what wording should the letter contain? For example is 'this letter confirms & certifies through official verification procedures that the transfers and/or deposits into the beneficiary's account were all international transfers made by the beneficiary from his international account' acceptable & good enough for immigration to continue with the processing of my visa extension application?
Would it be any benefit to use an agent & forfeit an additional up to ฿19,000 in costs (to the agent) to process the visa extension on my behalf given the same information & records of proof that I have mentioned here?
Hope this clears up the clarity issue & precise nature of the potential problem I forsee
- currently transferring an average of ±฿96K per month into my Thai bank account
- Average international transfer is ±฿2,740 averaging over 35 transfers per month for the last 12 months
The question (I'm asking) is ...
What bank letter or bank certification letter is needed for me from the bank that immigration will accept to process my application because under the current requirements I qualify (just need to prove it to immigration via a bank certification & verification letter)
Follow up question... what wording should the letter contain? For example is 'this letter confirms & certifies through official verification procedures that the transfers and/or deposits into the beneficiary's account were all international transfers made by the beneficiary from his international account' acceptable & good enough for immigration to continue with the processing of my visa extension application?
Would it be any benefit to use an agent & forfeit an additional up to ฿19,000 in costs (to the agent) to process the visa extension on my behalf given the same information & records of proof that I have mentioned here?
Hope this clears up the clarity issue & precise nature of the potential problem I forsee
Lynnette *******
Alan Rothwell and no punctuation. . Hard to make sense of it.
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