What evidence can I provide to prove the source of my international transfers for my retirement stamp in Thailand?

Jan 9, 2025
9 days ago
Nick ************
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I am attempting to move from banked money to monthly payments for my retirement stamp due next month. I have 12 monthly payments shown as ftt in my Bangkok bank book. I also have 12 monthly payments showing as international transfer on my bank statements. However, my immigration Officer is insisting that I provide proof of where the transfers came from. I explained my embassy would not provide any evidence or letter.

Has anyone else had this experience and, if so, what evidence did you provide?

The Officer freely admitted it was the first time a foreigner had used this method of obtaining a stamp at her office.
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The user is facing challenges in proving the source of their funds for a retirement stamp application in Thailand, specifically regarding monthly international transfers to their Bangkok bank. Immigration officials are insisting on proof of the origin of these transfers. Responses suggest that a bank letter or deposit summary showing the history of transfers is required, rather than just bank statements. Other users share that providing evidence such as pension statements, transactions from the originating bank, or a credit advice receipt may also help. It is noted that demonstrating a consistent bank balance of at least 400,000 THB is still necessary, regardless of the payment method used.
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Terry ********
I just did this. Used my Social Security benefits letter.
Nick ************
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@Terry *******
thankyou but I don't have one.
Bob **********
If you have a pension so your statement
Stephen *******
You transferred it from somewhere! Where is that bank statement?
Nick ************
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@Stephen ******
I have my UK bank statements to show them but the transfers all went through Wise so it is a bit complicated.
Tim *********
you would also have statements from whoever makes the pension payments to show your entitlements
Nick ************
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@Tim ********
no. Just the receipts on my bank statements for the payments.
Loma ******
Just show the home bank transactions, you should be able to print those. And match those up to the Credit Advice Receipt (which shows the source of the funds) issued by Bangkok Bank. And ask BBL to issue a Credit Advice summary letter, which details all 12 transfers.
John ***********
I Am also doing my first extension (OA) in Feb and faced with a similar problem. Not quite sure how to prove for 12 months as we arrived in March but were only able to open Bank accounts in April and used cash USD converted to Thai Baht for first month. For this I still have the documents showing the purchase of USD in South Africa and then the conversion to Baht from Kungsri. I intend to use my Monthly payslips from my Pension provider (private) as source of fund and then show copies of the actual forex transfer transactions from my Home bank (South Africa) to Bangkok Bank. Local statements will show deposits into BB.
Jack ****************
@Nick ***********
hey man... First, good luck. Second, please let me know how it all plays out. I will be attempting the same thing in about 6 months. I've been doing the transfers for years. All of this vague I'll defined stuff is embarrassing.
Kool *******
You can not use your monthly bank statements. You must get a deposit summary from your bank showing all 12 months of deposits coming from overseas, and the bank letter stating it is your account. That is the only thing immigration accepts if you don't have an embassy letter. Also be aware that you still must show that your bank balance never dropped below bt400,000 for the time until you apply for your next extension, even though you are changing to the monthly payment method. It was required for your last year's extension.
Michael *******
Which immig office Nick ?
Nick ************
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@Michael ******
Nakhon Phanom (say no more!)
Michael *******
Graham ******
I think they are referring to the bank letter which is also needed.
Nick ************
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@Graham *****
I have had no problem with the bank letter using banked
*****
0 baht. What bank letter is required for monthly transfers and from which bank?
John **********
@Nick ***********
it's a different format of letter and confirms your monthly overseas transfers listing each transfer for the past 12 months
Graham ******
@Nick ***********
the Thai bank with you account
John **********
@Graham *****
the letter is different for monthly transfers so maybe
Brandon ************
Some immigration offices do in fact require proof of source of funds if you are trying to use monthly transfers. They want to see you're receiving a pension or some other retirement income and that's what your transfers are.
Michael *******
@Brandon ***********
so a foreign bank statement would suffice showing source? I am converting this year and UK embassy won’t help…..
Steve ********
@Michael ******
I transfer using Wise and provide a copy of the Wise documentation pertaining to that transfer and cross reference to my Kbank bank statement. Never had a problem at Hua Hin.
Nick ************
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@Steve *******
I haven't mentioned Wise yet a I believe that will further complicate the situation. A Wise transfer does not prove where the money has come from which is what I am being asked for. They are scrutinising my uk bank statements right now along with Bangkok bank statements. There are two anomalies which they will probably pick up on.
Steve ********
@Nick ***********
My Wise transfers show the name and overseas address of the sender, which is me. The amount of foreign currency exchanged, the exchange rate and the amount of Thai baht remitted to my specific Thai bank account and my name and Thai address. All of which tie up with the paperwork associated with my visa extension application. This is acceptable at Hua Hin Immigration. Obviously, this is not the case at your local office, which must be annoying and shows the ludicrous inconsistencies between offices. Good luck with your application.
Jim ********
@Michael ******
Bangkok generally don't ask, but two years ago they wanted to see my pension statement from Australia. Didn't need to be notarised or anything like that. Last time the subject didn't come up
Nick ************
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@Michael ******
I am PRINTING UK bank statements right now to see if they will accept money going out of UK coinciding with money showing in thai bank but it shows as going to Wise first.
Wayne ********
@Nick ***********
when transferring money using Wise did you check the box sending for Visa? Because I believe the way it works is when you use Wise they send it to a local bank that they are in partners with and then that bank transfers it to your bank so it shows as a domestic transfer not a foreign transfer, but if you check the box sending for a retirement visa or something of that nature can’t remember the exact words it will go as an FTT transfer so I assume they would then send it directly to your bank, just an assumption on my part, based on the amount of research that I have done
Michael *******
@Nick ***********
good luck I also use wise but I will show them my bank statements (if necessary) detailing income and it’s source as well as my tax return if necessary that has all the detail…..wondering if it applies to Phuket haven’t heard of any problEMS here.
Brandon ************
@Michael ******
what will work is whatever the immigration office says will work. If they require it, they'll decide what they will and won't accept
Michael *******
@Brandon ***********
best way to drive folks to agents - part of a cunning plan….I will find out in Oct I guess, will keep the 800k just in case……
John **********
@Brandon ***********
I assumed that was normally for those whose embassy still provides the income affidavit/certificate. Even with the certificate I've seen them asking but suspect it's more of a check on the embassy than the individual
Brandon ************
@John *********
no, some immigration offices want it for monthly transfers. I assume it's so you're not just transferring the same money out and in every month
Wayne ********
@Brandon ***********
wouldn’t that be clearly obvious from his bank book transferring in ฿45,000 and then transferring out ฿45,000 every month?
Jim ********
@Wayne *******
You can withdraw cash and get someone else to return it to home country, but it's only 65k, what are people living on?
Brandon ************
@Wayne *******
I'm only giving my guess. I don't make the rules
Wayne ********
@Brandon ***********
I realize you don’t make the rules Brandon I was commenting on the statement you made, “I assume it's so you're not just transferring the same money out and in every month”
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