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What are the steps and requirements to obtain a Non-O visa in Thailand, and how do 90-day reports work after leaving the country?
Non-O VisaVisa ExtensionThai ImmigrationRe-entry Permit90-Day ReportingIncome RequirementChiang Mai ImmigrationExpat Experiences
Jan 13, 2023
3 years ago
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTERA long story and a couple of questions.
Just want to share my Non-"O" experience at Chiang Mai Immigration because I find this forum quite helpful.
Arrived from Canada on a 45 day stamp Nov.2nd and wanted to apply for a Non-O. Had to do one 30 day extension first (1,900). Don't know why ($maybe) but done.
As required for my Non-"O", on Dec. 23 I finally provided the following documents over a number of visits. Busy place.
1. TM87 Application for Visa. ✅
2. Copy of passport details including the 30 extension stamp. ✅
3. 4*6 cm photo ✅
4. A very non-committal guarantee letter from the Canadian Consulate for IIRC 1,000 baht, saying that I've shown them documentation and signed an affidavit stating that I meet the 65,000 baht/month income threshold. They requested Immigration "afford me assistance as may be necessary". NOTE - The income did NOT have to be deposited into a Thai bank at any point. ✅
5. A signed acknowledgement of Penalties for a Visa overstay form. ✅
6. And last but not least a 2,000 baht application fee. ✅
My call-back day for consideration was today (Jan. 13th). I got my Non-"O" valid until April 11th, yay! Was told that I could renew/extend up to 45 days prior to that date and be given a 1 year visa at that time requiring 90 day reports (another 1,900 baht I assume) which I will do.
QUESTION - Assuming no issues arise could I buy a single re-entry permit, leave Thailand on April 19th and not return until November and the visa still be valid? Would the 90 day reports kick in again at that point or am I knackered?
The end, almost. When I left Immigration someone had liberated my motorbike helmet and I got a ticket on my way to the shop for a new one. Some days just go like 😔.
Cheers!
Just want to share my Non-"O" experience at Chiang Mai Immigration because I find this forum quite helpful.
Arrived from Canada on a 45 day stamp Nov.2nd and wanted to apply for a Non-O. Had to do one 30 day extension first (1,900). Don't know why ($maybe) but done.
As required for my Non-"O", on Dec. 23 I finally provided the following documents over a number of visits. Busy place.
1. TM87 Application for Visa. ✅
2. Copy of passport details including the 30 extension stamp. ✅
3. 4*6 cm photo ✅
4. A very non-committal guarantee letter from the Canadian Consulate for IIRC 1,000 baht, saying that I've shown them documentation and signed an affidavit stating that I meet the 65,000 baht/month income threshold. They requested Immigration "afford me assistance as may be necessary". NOTE - The income did NOT have to be deposited into a Thai bank at any point. ✅
5. A signed acknowledgement of Penalties for a Visa overstay form. ✅
6. And last but not least a 2,000 baht application fee. ✅
My call-back day for consideration was today (Jan. 13th). I got my Non-"O" valid until April 11th, yay! Was told that I could renew/extend up to 45 days prior to that date and be given a 1 year visa at that time requiring 90 day reports (another 1,900 baht I assume) which I will do.
QUESTION - Assuming no issues arise could I buy a single re-entry permit, leave Thailand on April 19th and not return until November and the visa still be valid? Would the 90 day reports kick in again at that point or am I knackered?
The end, almost. When I left Immigration someone had liberated my motorbike helmet and I got a ticket on my way to the shop for a new one. Some days just go like 😔.
Cheers!
TLDR : Answer Summary
The poster shares their successful experience of obtaining a Non-O visa in Chiang Mai, Thailand, detailing the required documents and processes involved, such as applying for a 30-day tourism extension and gathering necessary paperwork, including an income guarantee from the Canadian Consulate. They inquire about the implications of leaving Thailand with a re-entry permit and how it affects the 90-day reporting requirement. Comments provide additional insights about the visa process, advising on the re-entry rules and confirming the need for proper documentation for extension applications.
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Tod *********
and on that note I think we've taken this thread as far as we can.
Good luck to the O/P in getting their year extension (y)
Thank you for the update and relating how the process went for you 🙂
Good luck to the O/P in getting their year extension (y)
Thank you for the update and relating how the process went for you 🙂
Tod *********
Congrats that you got the Non-O
So this means any time AFTER Feb 25th you can apply for the year extension.
Hopefully the immigration office gave you back a stamped copy of that income affidavit because if not you'll need another one from your embassy
So this means any time AFTER Feb 25th you can apply for the year extension.
Hopefully the immigration office gave you back a stamped copy of that income affidavit because if not you'll need another one from your embassy
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
They did not. That might interrupt the flow of moula.Tod *********
@Greg ********
then you need to get another affidavit from the Canadian Embassy for proof of monthly income..Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
There's a 1,000 baht life lesson for me right there. Thanks.Tod *********
@Greg ********
this is the only time you need TWO of those, (one for the Non-O visa and one for the year extension) because after this you will just do yearly extensions one after another and only need one affidavit 🙂Reply to
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KC *****
Re #4 what did you show them to substantiate the $65k/ month please?
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@KC ****
Copy of bank statement showing pension deposits.Tod *********
@Greg ********
you could have done it all online thru the bangkok embassy of canada without any issue at all. most people do that now,Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
It was all last minute, Tod. I had all the paperwork for my usual O-A visa that I normally get in 2-3 days in Ottawa. This year the E-Visa game began and required 15 business days which I didn't have and couldn't get through to the Embassy in Ottawa or Consulate in Vancouver. Higher than normal call volumes and all that.Thanks for the heads-up. I'm an old dog learning new tricks.
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@Greg ********
and over how many months worth of proofs do they need? Tks.Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@KC ****
I actually pulled up my online banking on my phone and showed perhaps 2 or 3 months worth of deposits. I really don't recall, sorry.KC *****
@Greg ********
ok thats good enough I just wasn’t sure if they needed a full years worthReply to
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Tod *********
@Greg ********
you showed that to the embassy here to get the affidavit of income notary letter rightImmigrations did not require a copy of it correct?
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
Right, Immigration only wanted the guarantee letter from the Canadian Consulate office.
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Tod *********
@KC ****
Canada is one of the countries whose embassy here still issues the affidavit of income from abroad notary letter (they do it all by email now) That's all you need to show to show you have the funds from abroad
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tod ********
I had to go to the Consulate office, Tod. At least I thought I did.KC *****
@Tod ********
ok thats good to know thank youReply to
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Ellie *******
Congratulations on your success on an in-country Non-O retirement visa.
First, a couple of information. You had to apply for 30 days tourism extension because you most likely didn't have enough remaining days with your entry stamp as of application day. Chiang Mai requires you to have minimum 15 working days with your stamp when applying for an in-country visa. Usually, it's 21 calendar days but longer when there are holidays.
The 1-year extension application fee is 1,900 thb. 90 days report is free.
Q. Assuming no issues arise could I buy a single re-entry permit, leave Thailand on April 19th and not return until November and the visa still be valid?
> As long as you have a valid extension and a re-entry permit, and be back in Thailand within that validation, you will be fine.
Q. Would the 90 day reports kick in again at that point or am I knackered?
> Your 90 days count stops when you leave Thailand, and restart on the day you arrive in Thailand as day 1.
First, a couple of information. You had to apply for 30 days tourism extension because you most likely didn't have enough remaining days with your entry stamp as of application day. Chiang Mai requires you to have minimum 15 working days with your stamp when applying for an in-country visa. Usually, it's 21 calendar days but longer when there are holidays.
The 1-year extension application fee is 1,900 thb. 90 days report is free.
Q. Assuming no issues arise could I buy a single re-entry permit, leave Thailand on April 19th and not return until November and the visa still be valid?
> As long as you have a valid extension and a re-entry permit, and be back in Thailand within that validation, you will be fine.
Q. Would the 90 day reports kick in again at that point or am I knackered?
> Your 90 days count stops when you leave Thailand, and restart on the day you arrive in Thailand as day 1.
Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Ellie ******
The silly season might explain the lack of working days I needed and the need for that initial extension.Graham ******
For clarification, where
@El***
says restarts she means resets to day one when you re-enterGreg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Graham *****
So, if I leave while only 8 days into my first 90 day reporting cycle I'd come back to 82 remaining days or would a new 90 day cycle begin?Ellie *******
@Greg ********
no, it would start from day 1 when you arrive in Thailand again.Greg *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Ellie ******
Excellent, thank you Ellie.Reply to
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