What do I need to know about reporting and renewing my Non-OA visa in Thailand?

Sep 5, 2023
a year ago
Johnson *****
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Hi guys, I'm from Malaysia, above 50 and upon further consideration, I have decided to apply for the non-OA immigrant visa.

After downloading the visa application form online, I made sure I got all the relevant documents prepared. They are as follows:

1. Completed application form (downloaded from the embassy website);

2. Original passport plus copy of the photo page (my passport will only expire in 2026, so no issues there);

3. Documentary evidence I'm a permanent resident in my country. In my case, I showed them my house title (plus copy);

4. Certificate of good conduct applied and issued by my country's foreign ministry;

5. Bank statements certified by my home bank branch that I have at least 800,000 baht in my account;

6. Got my family doctor to examine me and certified I'm free from the 5 diseases stated in the form. ie. leprosy, tuberculosis, elephantiasis, 3rd stage syphilis and drug addiction;

7. I have a life and medical insurance policy in my home country which is more than the required 400,000 baht minimum. I got the insurance company to fill out the form which I downloaded online and got the manager to sign it; and

8. Passport sized photo with white background not less than 6 months old

I went online to book my appointment 2 weeks ago and I got scheduled yesterday at 11.30am. Arrived and submitted all my documents. The officer asked me why didn't I show proof of monthly income of 65000 baht? I told her I'm already retired, hence do not have this. I said the amount in the bank statements showed more than 800,000 baht which should be sufficient. She went to check with the consul and told me everything's fine. I can collect my passport with the visa the next day. She issued me a letter which I had to bring along when collecting the passport.

I felt very happy as the entire process took less than 45 minutes (including the waiting time) to complete.

When I got home, I received a call from the embassy requesting for additional information. She said the consul upon further review of my case decided that I need to show I have sufficient money to spend for my living expenses in Thailand.

I informed her I have a condo in Bangkok which is currently being rented out. She requested for me to furnish a copy of the title and the lease agreement via email. To be on the safe side, I also added an additional bank statement showing my fixed deposit too. Emailed the documents and didn't hear from them anymore.

I went to collect my passport today at 3.30pm. Took me less than 2 minutes since it was practically empty!

So now I have the 1 year non-OA visa in hand with multiple entry.

For the time being, I will be going in and out of Thailand on a monthly basis. ie. 3 weeks in Bangkok and 1 week in Kuala Lumpur.

My questions are as follows:

1. If I am not going to stay for more than 90 days, I guess I do not need to do the 90 day reporting, am I right?

2. Other than the TM30 form, what else do I have to do?

3. I'm also assuming that 1 month before the expiry of this visa, I'll go to the embassy again in Kuala Lumpur to apply for a new OA visa using the same requirements. Is this assumption correct? If so, there's no issue of renewal at all but a fresh application each time.

Thanks in advance for any sensible clarification.
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The user successfully applied for a Non-OA visa in Thailand, following the necessary procedures and document submissions, including proof of residence and financial stability. After granting the visa, they sought clarification on a few points, including the 90-day reporting requirement if not staying more than 90 days, obligations related to the TM30 form, and the process for renewing the visa before it expires.
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Brook ********
Why did you choose NonOA over the much better (IMHO) NonO?

I’m curious.
Johnson *****
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@Brook *******
OA is multiple entry. I do not need to purchase any insurance as I can use my existing home country insurance.
Brook ********
@Johnson ****
A NonO (฿1900), with the addition of a multiple reentry permit (฿3800) provides multiple reentry, plus you are free to choose ANY health insurance policy, from any country, self insure, or have no insurance at all.

So is that why you chose the NonOA, so you could keep the insurance from your home country?!?

Have you looked at the current requirements for extending the NonOA visa in Thailand? You must choose from one of the 14 Thai health insurance companies and hope and pray they will accept your application. Many pre-existing conditions or age can completely disqualify you from coverage. Then what will you do?
Johnson *****
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@Brook *******
that's one of the reasons. The insurance that I have now never expires and covers my life and medical worldwide.
Brandon ************
2) Legally the property owner of wherever you are staying is required to file a TM30 for you within 24 hours of you returning. If it's your own property you do. Very easy if you register online.

Realistically, the ONLY time you will ever need proof of TM30 being filed is if you are going to your local immigration office for some service. Since you won't be doing that, you probably don't need to worry too much about the TM30 either for the time being.
Johnson *****
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@Brandon ***********
thank you. My property is rented out and I'm staying in a rented property myself. My agent is doing the TM 30 for me. Cheers! 😊
Ellie *******
Thank you for the report.

1. -> Right. Only you need to 90 days report when you stay in Thailand for consecutive 90 days (or more).

2. -> Nothing visa-wise.

3. -> You can do that. However, as Non-OA is multiple entry, the "valid until date" on the visa sticker is the last day you can enter Thailand on Non-OA to be stamped for 365 days (or until the insurance expires if it's earlier). This is called the "second year from Non-OA" in this group. Once you are on this second year and after your Non-OA sticker expires, you can buy a (multiple) re-entry permit to keep that second-year stamp alive and enter again on it.
Johnson *****
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@Ellie ******
thank you for your clarification. The thing is, my insurance situation is a bit different. My insurance will never expire because I bought it as a package many years ago as a life and medical insurance coverage. In fact, I'm still paying the premiums annually until age 70. That's why I'm not sure if I'm able to "renew" the visa at all!
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