What Are the Rules for Unpaid Work on a Thai Work Permit When Renewing a Permission to Stay?

Jun 23, 2020
4 years ago
Grenville *********
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I recently had my wife's company added to my work permit so that I could legally help her, unpaid, with her business. The work permit addition went smoothly and no salary was necessary as the salary that goes with my primary job was sufficient. I am now being told by my employer's accountant that, in order to renew my one-year permission to stay (based on marriage), I will need to show a minimum of 40,000 baht for each job. This seems to go directly against the intent behind the recent relaxing of work permit rules, which I understood to mean that work permit holders could now add unpaid 'jobs' (eg condo management committee) to their work permits. Can anybody can shed light on this? My immigration office is Phuket.
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The user has added their wife's company to their work permit to assist her unpaid. They received contradictory information about needing to prove a minimum income for their permission to stay renewal, conflicting with recent relaxed work permit rules. Comments suggest that the user's accountant may not understand the complexities of multiple companies on a work permit, and it is advised to consult directly with the Phuket immigration office.
Tod *********
and we're done. Good luck to the O/P in their endeavor. I believe their primary employer's accountant has little or no experience with people who have multiple companies listed in the work permit book.

Just have your primary employer provide the documentation that they always do so you can go apply for your yearly extension like normal.
Tod *********
As far as I know, that is total b/s,

IF you are using monthly income by working legally in thailand it's 40K per month income.

You use the same documents and paperwork you used last year.

I'd go talk to the Phuket immigration office directly without the "accountant"

OR

Just just have the accountant give you the paperwork that you need to get the extension based on your primary employer (the one that GOT you the work permit and meets the requirements for your salary) like always.
Naja ***********
Unrelated question: How does this apply for work permit holders that are receiving a monthly salary below 40K? Like teachers etc? I'm probably missing too much info in this conversation.
Tod *********
@Naja-Lee **********
teachers are exempt from the minimum wage requirements for getting extensions of stays based on employment. We are talking about getting an extension based on marriage to a thai not employment. There is a minimum monthly income of 40K baht required for marriage extensions.
Naja ***********
@Tod ********
ah thank you for explaining ๐Ÿ‘
Grenville *********
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Thank you
@Tod ********
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Robert *******
The rules of the Ministry of Labor has absolute nothing to do with the rules of the Royal Thai Police Immigration Bureau.
Robert *******
@Stuart **************
I dealt with it for 16 years for myself and several staff. The rules are so easy that I can explain them to all of you on this page.
Benjamin ******
I think the hangup is this word: " a minimum of 40,000 baht *for each job*"

A person can have more than one job. My understanding is that it doesn't require 40K THB for each job, but the total income needs to add up to 40K THB. The OP has one job that makes 40K THB, and a second job that makes 0K THB, which gives the sum of 40K THB.
Grenville *********
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Yes I know all that. Thanks. I've been living and working here for 20+ years. My Q was very specific and has been answered by Tod Daniels. Thanks again.
Robert *******
To get and apply for a Work Permit there is no minimum wage set by the Ministry of Labor.

If you want to use this Work Permit to apply for an Extension of Stay at the Immigration Office there are a minimum wage, tax and sso payments as requirements.

Different things, different offices,
Grenville *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I'm aware of that. But this rule (if it's real) seems designed specifically to cut through the Ministry of Labour's intent. My question is if anybody knows whether this particular rule exists.
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