What are the best visa options for working remotely in Thailand after my student visa ends?

Feb 16, 2024
9 months ago
Tal *********
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Hi!

I want to move to Thailand, and I want to be ready as to what happens after student visa ends. I will work from remote. I do not have money to spend on elite visas.

What are my best options?
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The conversation outlines various options for transitioning from a student visa to another visa type while planning to work remotely in Thailand. Options discussed include applying for different visa types such as a work visa, extending through an educational visa (Ed visa), considering the LTR visa (Long-Term Resident), or eventually obtaining a marriage visa. Some commenters emphasize the difficulty of obtaining an LTR visa due to strict financial and employment requirements, while others suggest the possibility of working for a Thai company that can sponsor a work visa. There are also discussions on the implications of the Elite visa and suggestions to explore marrying a Thai citizen as a longer-term solution.
LONG TERM RESIDENT (LTR) VISA RESOURCES / SERVICES
Zoe ******
Maybe 4 yr Thai university and wait for other visa options in the future...have you thought about other SEA countries? You don't have to stay in your home country, there are always options. It's so ironic that some people act like Thailand belongs to them just because they have been here longer, even though they are all foreigners just like the rest of us and probably had the same questions when they tried to leave their countries. So many people lack self awareness.
Jarek ************
Spend under 180 days in TH and the rest in VN, Cambodia or PH... Even with Elite you will fall under tax residency and given the lack of details on how this will be handled I just wouldn't bother with it...
Rich **********
I'm on a 90 day O visa but need 60 more days to finish my holiday, flying out for a week to visit penang from Phuket. Will I need anything to enter Thailand on return
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marry Thai lady !
Jst *********
You can check out here
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Might be a good option
Jeremy *************
Ed visa. Learn Thai . Then teach English????
Adrià ********
If you don't qualify for LTR and you don't have enough money for Elite visa, the option left is a working visa. You can use a company to sponsor you for a working visa. Iglu is an example, but there are more.
Olibier ************
Hello, you can message me it's student visa 50k baht / 15 month as remote
Olibier ************
@Tal ********
I just asked them their is plenty pf choices depending of what you want to do. Apply from inside (thailand) or not. I can give you contact if you want then you can ask
John **********
There aren't many options if you discount the Elite visa until you reach 50. Get a job or marry a Thai. As you will work remotely there is the LTR visa but that has strict financial requirements, but it's the only option for remote work other than doing so illegally
Andy **********
@John *********
LTR Work from Thailand also has requirements about the nature of your employer (registration, revenue) but also the employees work experience (5 years experience in current field of employment). LTR has significant tax implications for the non-Thailand employer.
John **********
@Andy *********
I'm not sure why it would have tax implications for the employer?
Andy **********
@John *********
Its called Permanent Establishment, which is about whether an employee creates a tax liability. It depends on the employee's role in the company, and the risk that he or she may conduct business with Thai entities, thereby making the company liable to Thai corporation tax. The danger is the employee might think right now they don't do work with Thai customers, but they might. Said employee might be asked, because they are on the ground, to go and get a contract signed off. Big no no, because now you are involved in the sale. A lot will hinge on interpretation of PE defined in the tax treaty, and also the word "habitual" that appears in most of the texts. As employee, you might refuse, and it will impact on career progression. You're a senior manager, and now you are telling your employer they must never involve you in any Thai transaction. Few listed businesses with $50m in revenue will say they have no interest whatsoever in dealing with customers in Thailand, one of the key emerging economies. And then what happens if you are made redundant? You are not only out of work, but homeless, as you need to leave Thailand immediately. A company might also be asked to provide accounts to the Thai government, proving their Thai revenue, and how that revenue is not due to their LTR employee. If they don't, I believe the fine is 5% of global revenues..... The LTR requirements mean that you have to be an employee of a public company, with I think $150m in revenue over the last 3 years. Corporations of that size have to do due diligence when an employee requests working from Thailand, and it can fall apart then, because what is in it for the employer. Why should they pay the lawyers to identify the financial risks? Also, post COVID, many companies are allowing employees to work overseas, but many will only offer local level wages. That will be a big cut in salary for many in the West in the senior roles defined in the regulation. But as ever, you do need to check the requisate tax treaties. Not saying its not an option, but its not straightforward.
John **********
@Andy *********
so *could* have tax implications for the employer would be a better representation. I'm pretty sure any company of that size would do due diligence before allowing an employee to permanently work remotely in a foreign country
Andy **********
@John *********
Or they would say, no you cannot. Go find another job. No, it will have tax implications, because they have to react to the employee moving as assessing the risk of PE. A Public Company cannot do nothing. There is a cost. My employer, on the FTSE, says any employee wanting to do this is responsible for all the legal costs. PE is not yes or no. There might be no risk now. But the risk might change in 6 months, because business changes. And LTR is not permanent settlement; it offers no route to permanent risidence. The visa is issued initially for 5 years. There is an expectation that it will be extended then for a further 5 years. Its not an immigration visa. There is a risk that after 5 years, the Thai government has decided to cancel the scheme. Anyhow, looking at the OP, its clear that LTR is a complete irrelevance. He's got to get a job first with a relevant company, and demonstrate sufficient experience in his field.
John **********
@Andy *********
I don't think there is a requirement for the company to be public, just well established which they define by having 150m usd revenue over the last three years. But yes you're right it's probably totally irrelevant, I just wanted to highlight the potential illegality of what he was proposing
Andy **********
@John *********
Correct, the requirement is a Public Company or private company showing $150m in accounts over the last 3 years. Its the private company that needs to disclose revenues. And guess what, private companies, depending on the jurisdiction, don't really disclose revenues in the public domain. Thats why Bloomberg, Reuters and other resort to essentially guessing. I think you are right, his only real options are to marry a Thai or get a job in Thailand, but likely, given his role, he will be in competition with Thais for the job.
Chuck ************
I hope the admins take note and at the very minimum warn some of these disgusting people that create conflict with their useless and distasteful comments. How about learning where the scroll button is!!! Your keyboard access need to be suspended!!!
Jordi ********
@Chuck ***********
50k people in this group. Its just how it goes.
Chuck ************
Appreciate your apathy!
Selena ********
@Chuck ***********
this!!! Couldn't agree more.
Tal *********
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@Selena *******
Couldn't agree more, a simple question about visa turned to "how evil Israel is" kind of conversation.

Some people just need to learn how to scroll.
Sam *********
Bart Beemsterboer doesn't know his place
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Sam ********
Then remove him! Why do you allow such things to happen in your group??
Sam *********
@Tal ********
because I have no authority as I am not an administrator...
Dylan ********************
Work visa

volunteer visa

Missionary visa

Marriage visa

Retirement visa
Bob **********
Stay home and work and save your money so one day you’ll be able to live in Thailand
Pisuttha *************
You can do student visa. There are many languages that you can apply and you can learn Thai boxing as well. You can have Ed visa about 4-5 years. It depends on school where you apply.
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Pisuttha ************
My question is primarily on what happens after that student visa ends.
Wayne *********
@Tal ********
after your visa finishes.

Your choice is re-new or tourist visa,s or entry exempt and extension until immigration decide you are rorting the tourist system and refuse you entry.
Pisuttha *************
@Tal ********
Find a job then.
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Pisuttha *************
Lior *******
Save for elite visa.
Steve **********
@Lior ******
most from all income levels find a great life.

If you can get retirement visa ' O ', just relax and seek your own level .

Avoid the farang salesmen ie: real estate, agents, insurance, investments etc.
Peter *********
Stay home 🏡
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
It's insanely stupid how y'all managed to turn a question about visa to a conversation about how israel is bad.

Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Don't you have better things to do with your day other than to spread hate? It doesn't matter if you spread hate to Israel or Israeli people, it's all the same.
Ken ***********
@Tal ********
it is not hate about Israel and its people; it is about the actions of Israel government and military mass killing of innocent civilians. Innocent children and civilians being killed is wrong.
Chuck ************
@Tal ********
I have lived internationally for the last 10 years... I have watched from afar my country and the extreme attitudes toward muslims, latin americans, asians... so much hate that most of the haters don't even understand why they hate they just follow the crowd or the cult that they find themselves associated with. So many ignorant people that are so easily led to conclusions and conspiracies that are unfounded and serve no purpose. Most are pawns in someone else's desire for power and for money. So they come to forums like this and lash out because it makes them feel more HiSo than the life they have been gifted by the masters. They claim to be religious or intelligent but cannot recite a verse, perform a beatitude, or critically examine their own life let alone contribute or help someone else. They attacked you and they will attack me for writing this because it will strike a nerve and rather than repent they will feel better because they responded with anger rather than love. Their response is a testament to how far they have strayed from the basic nature of being a good human and showing any empathy for other humans. To all of them I say, Bless your hearts!
Tong *****
@Tal ********
it's the way of the internet nowadays. Smart ass comments are the norm 😟
Priscilla *******
@Peter ********
it’s always the old white guys throwing hate
Eric **********
@Priscilla ******
You need to hang with a different crowd…
Frank **********
@Priscilla ******
tell me you are a Snowflake without telling me. 5555
Zoe ******
@Frank *********
who still says snowflake nowadays? Guess you just showed your age without telling...5555
Frank **********
@Zoe *****
apparently you do not keep up on social media.. This shows your ignorance. Oh I see now, you're from Shitfornia.
Zoe ******
@Frank *********
Haha, when does not keeping up with social media make someone ignorant? Sorry my real life keeps me busy and happy. And yes, I'm from the largest sub-national economy in the world. Thanks for bringing it up. 😜

P.S: to still make fun of someone's background in today's environment is so unoriginal and sad.
Priscilla *******
@Frank *********
lol point proven 3 times over 😂😂
Zoe ******
@Priscilla ******
Oscar Wilde famously said that 'with age comes wisdom'. Fortunately for him, FB didn't exist back then 🤣🤣
Ken ***********
@Priscilla ******
stereotype much ? Does your father throw hate also ?
Priscilla *******
@Ken ******
like I said…it’s always the old white guys 🤪
Ken ***********
@Priscilla ******
Si la generación más joven no fuera tan ignorante e irrespetuosa, tendríamos menos de qué quejarnos.
Priscilla *******
@Ken ******
okay Ken 😂
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Peter ********
Not gonna happen.

And please, if you are not going to answer my question, do not reply.
Bart **************
@Tal ********
well whether that's gonna happen or not remains to be seen. You don't decide whether you have the right to stay in Thailand. And by your own story, you do not have the right.

Second, he DID answer your question. He gave you the only possible, realistic, reasonable advice. And you should follow it up.
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Peter ********
You antisemite have been reported. Good luck in your hating journey, may you find lucifer on your mary way.
John **********
@Tal ********
I hate the way anti semitism is now seen as anti Israel. The two are quite distinct. Not a comment against you personally just an observation
Ken ***********
@John *********
agreed. Passions are high due to the violence and genocide.
Ken ***********
@Tal ********
please show where he was anti-Semitic. It appears you are accusing someone without evidense
Sam *********
@Tal ********
Don't see anything he said that was anti semitic. Another case of people using that term when there is no reason for it. Boy who cried wolf.
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Sam ********
He deleted his comment.

He said something like "go live in gaza", which imlies he hates me and wants me to live as a refugee.
Sam *********
@Tal ********
well, at least you acknowledge that the situation in Gaza is dire.
Tal *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Sam ********
Of course it is. Though I also don't appreciate people telling me that I need to go there. It implies people want me to suffer.

Take care of that please, Sam.
Ken ***********
@Tal ********
I am from the U.S. and often people judge all of us as warmongers. Unfortunately, innocent Israelis are blamed for the genocide your government and military is conducting in Gaza. Hopefully, peace and humanity will prevail at some point.
Sam *********
@Tal ********
yea, people can be jerks
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