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Can my friend apply for a NON-O visa in Thailand if she receives an early pension due to injury?

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Aug 1, 2023
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I have a friend who is 50 years old and wishes to move to Thailand and apply for NON-O visa. She has early retirement from her home country. What she is worried about is whether it counts as a regular pension in Thailand?. In her home country she receives money every month as a regular pension. But on paper, it is not a regular pension that you get when you get old. How is the thai migration in Thailand with this that she has received an earlier pension because she has injured herself and cannot work any more in her life. She has saved 372000THB which she can deposit in a Thai bank to replay for NON-O visa one year.

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A 50-year-old woman seeking to move to Thailand and apply for a NON-O visa is concerned about whether her early retirement pension is recognized as regular pension income in Thailand. It's clarified that Thailand does not differentiate the source of income as long as it amounts to at least 65,000 THB per month, and this income must be deposited monthly into a Thai bank. If her embassy can certify her income, it may be considered sufficient for the visa application; otherwise, she'll need 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account for the visa.
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Rory ******
What is her home country? That might change some advice given. For example if she is Australian - the OX applied for from the Sydney Consulate if her income is $5000 AUD monthly.
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Rory ******
Yes 👍 (Sydney, Australia Consulate - specific current monthly requirement - applied for within Australia). I’ve not done it. Have just seen it spoken about extensively on Australians in Thailand FB group & checked the Consulate page.
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 that's 115,000/ mo
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Steve **********
Thailand doesn't care what the source of income is, as long as it exceeds 65k per month and is received monthly by a Thai bank as FFT ( foreign fund transfer ).
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 If it's transferred to a Thai bank as an international transfer there's no certification from embassy required
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@Roberto ********
 Don't think any country certifies anymore. US stopped years ago.
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Thailand doesn't care if it's a pension. The only way you can get a non-O visa in Thailand and apply for the first 1 year extension using income is if your embassy will certify your income. Many embassies stopped doing this years ago like the US, UK and Australian embassy.

So if your friend's embassy will not certify their income then the only way to get the non-O and first 1 year extension is with 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account.

If their embassy will certify their income then your friend needs to find out what type of income the embassy will certify. If they'll do it then that's all they need as proof of income 65,000 baht per month.
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 Thanks Brandon. Just to 100% clarify..So obtaining the OA visa in home country includes multi entry facility attached so when doing a border bounce just before OA visa expires there is no need to obtain a re-entry permit at departure airport to facilitate a return into Thailand after the bounce.
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 you can enter Thailand an unlimited number of times until the date written on the OA visa. Each time you enter you'll be stamped in for 1 year or until the end date of your insurance.
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, therefore in a lot of cases a better idea to apply for a Non-OA at the Thai Embassy in your home country as they are (normally) much more flexible on how to prove funds of either 800,000 THB on account or income of 65,000 THB NET per month.
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 but don't count on spending any of that 800,000 for 5 months. 2 months before entering Thailand and for three months after entering.
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, this is not the case with Non-OA, but with Non-O.
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@Henrik ***
 thanks for the correction.
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, if using the deposit method at the Embassy, the money needs to be on account 2-3 months before applying for the Non-OA. Check details with Embassy. When you have got the visa, the Embassy wishes you a safe flight and leaves you be until next time.
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 The Non-OA gets you a 12 month entry stamp and another 12 months with a border bounce if you have the insurance too. Any extensions beyond that require 800k in a Thai account.
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 Non OA, second year, insurance must be from a thai company?
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, not necessarily.
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 Hi. Just to clarify, I obtain my OA with insurance which gives me 12 months stay in Thailand. Border bounce near the end of 12 months, making sure have a re entry permit AND another 12 months worth of insurance before doing the border bounce..and this combined will give another year in Thailand. So effectively 24 month stay off a 12 month OA visa. Tia.
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 no you cannot purchase a re-entry permit while the visa is still valid because it's a multiple entry visa. But if you want to leave during the 2nd year after the visa has expired you would need a re-entry permit
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, yes. So in the worst case, you will have to return to your home country every second year to get a new Non-OA. For many ppl this is a more easy way forward than getting 800k on account in Thailand or proving 65k every month in Thailand. Most Thai embassies will accept the annual tax report as proof of income.
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 💯 % correct.
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