What are the requirements for a NON-OA retirement visa in Thailand based on monthly income?

Aug 24, 2022
2 years ago
Louise *********
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We are applying for a non O-A retirement visa for my Husband from our home Country of New Zealand based on monthly income of at least 65000 baht. Can you confirm that if we are granted this Visa then the requirement continues to be 65000 baht transferred from overseas to a Thai bank account every month, and there is no need for 800000 baht deposit? Thank you for your help.
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The post discusses the requirements for obtaining a NON-OA retirement visa in Thailand, specifically for a New Zealand expat. The user seeks clarification on whether the ongoing requirement is to transfer 65,000 baht monthly from overseas to a Thai bank account, negating the need for an 800,000 baht deposit. Various comments provide insights about visa stipulations, including the possibility of obtaining the OA visa in New Zealand, needing an 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account for the first year, and the ongoing need for monthly transfers during the second year to qualify for extensions.
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Tod *********
Okay
@Louise ********
let's see if we can get this train wreck of a post back on the rails.

FIRST you need to understand HOW an OA visa works. That visa is good for a year from the date it's issued and is good for unlimited entries during that validity. EACH entry will get the holder stamped in for a year (or as long as their health insurance is valid for up to a year).

SO when your husband enters on the OA visa the first time, he will show his insurance policy and they will stamp him in until that date runs out (up to a year).

NOW after he's been in country 90 days he will have to file a 90 day report <- which is just a form that says he didn't leave the country and is free to do. There is NO requirement to proof funds or anything when filing a 90 day report. It's due 89 days from the date you enter the country and you can file one 2 weeks before up to 1 week after the due date at the immigration office in the area where you live.

The way people get TWO years of stay out of an OA visa that is valid for a year IS, just before the visa STICKER expires you exit/re-enter the country with a new year insurance policy and you will get another year entry stamp.

As far as meeting the proof of funds to get a yearly extension INSIDE the country at the immigration office by using monthly income method, IF you work that visa correctly <- get the 'free' second year. You wouldn't need to start transferring in the requisite 65K baht a month until after you'd been here 10 months or so because the requirement to get a year extension is you need to transfer in a minimum of 65K baht, each month, every month into a thai bank account in your name only from abroad for the previous 12 months before you apply for your yearly extension <- and IF you get two years out of that visa you wouldn't apply for a yearly extension for almost 2 years after your original entry. You'd need to start bringing in the funds just as the FIRST year stay is running out so that when the second year stay runs down you have 12 months of transfers to go get a yearly extension.
Louise *********
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@Tod ********
πŸ™ thank you! Sorry for the train wreck but you are correct, I had got myself very confused. Thank you for your clear instructions, I totally understand now. Thanks again 😊
Tod *********
@Louise ********
I just didn't want you to bring in the monthly transfers needlessly (without actually being required to do so) until you needed them for the FIRST yearly extension you'll get at the immigration office which if you do it right wouldn't be until the end of the second year you're here
Louise *********
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@Tod ********
perfect, thanks 😊
Steve ********
As Kiwis you may be eligible for the magic OX visa from the Sydney Consulate. It's worth checking out. Gives you five years without requirement of transferring money into Thai bank account
Steve ********
@Louise ********
If you can apply through the Sydney consulate you can use funds held in an Australian account, no need to transfer.
Louise *********
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@Steve *******
my Husband can get the OX visa but he has to have either 3 million baht deposited or annual income to a Thai account of at least 1.2 million baht
James ********
I chatted with
@Tod ********
..

Let's suggest this option for you BOTH to consider...

.. BOTH get the OA visa in New Zealand before you fly to Thailand.

.....Both plan carefully and get a SECOND YEAR Free from your OA visa...

.....DURING the months ending in the FIRST year .. begin to transfer 65,000 Thai baht EACH into a Thai bank account in EACH name only.

.....Then EACH of you get the One year extension of stay as retired under the OA based visa ...

.....Repeat annually...

.....OR return to home country New Zealand to get a new OA visa every TWO years.

Hope this helps you with your planning.
James ********
Thanks All for your helpful replies... especially
@John *********
. They are now set for their Entry into Thailand as retired.

Comments Closed.
Louise *********
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@James *******
thanks so much for your reply. It’s just my Husband that has the OA visa as I am not 50 yet. I thought that when he arrives on the OA that he gets a 90 day stamp and has to go to immigration within those 90 days to prove funds. Or does the OA issued from NZ give one year (or two if planned carefully) without having to prove funds? Also can you explain more about how we can get 2 years out of the first OA? Thank you πŸ™
James ********
@Louise ********
wonderful 😊

Safe travels and Enjoy Thailand
Louise *********
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@James *******
thank you, we can’t wait to arrive in October ❀️
James ********
@Louise ********
Great time to enter Thailand.
James ********
@Louise ********
understood.

BUT the key question is can you get the trailing spouse extension of stay? Your Non O Visa will give you 90 days STAMP on arrival into Thailand. I await Tod's reply.
Louise *********
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@James *******
I hope so πŸ™
James ********
@Louise ********
I chatted with
@Tod ********
and you will get the trailing spouse extension to match the ending date of your husband's OA stamp.

"Once they jump they the get the marriage certificate certified hoops"

So bring your marriage certificate with you to Thai immigration office when you apply for the trailing spouse extension of stay.

"And when he bounces out next year (with his OA) and gets his 2nd year stamp she goes back to the immigration office again and gets another matching extension"
Louise *********
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@James *******
thanks so much 😊 I have had to get my marriage certificate authenticated by the NZ immigration department for my application to the Thai consulate in NZ. I will bring all of these documents to Thailand for any extensions πŸ‘
John **********
@Louise ********
are you coming too? What visa are you coming on?
Louise *********
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@John *********
non immigration O
James ********
@Louise ********
And you are not age 50
Louise *********
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@James *******
no, my Husband is in his 50’s but I’m not there yet, so he’s will have the OA visa and I will have the O visa
John **********
@Louise ********
you will get 90 days so you will need to go for an extension before it expires.
James ********
@John *********
what extension?
John **********
@James *******
I assumed the Non-O was for a trailing spouse so she could get an extension matching her husband's permission to stay?
James ********
@John *********
I am thinking that's possible too...but have asked for confirmation.
Louise *********
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@John *********
yes this is correct
James ********
@John *********
I have asked Tod Daniels that question. As he is entering with the OA... and she's not yet age 50....I await Tod's reply.
Louise *********
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@John *********
thanks πŸ™
Wannikea *********
Arriving on an OA would get you 2 years in Thailand if you time your last entry accordingly, without any need to prove funds till the first extension is necessary which would be after almost 2 years in Thailand and applying for the extension for year 3. I'm fairly sure I have that correct.
James ********
Louise *********
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If we arrive in October with a OA visa am I correct in understanding that for the first 12 month extension we will require a two month seasoned
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0 baht in a Thai bank account. If we then transfer
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baht per month for 12 months, we could then apply for our next 12 month extension based on the monthly income and would not need the
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0 baht deposit?
John *********
Does the NZ Embassy offer the Income Affidavit?
Louise *********
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@John ********
I don’t think so
James ********
@Louise ********
NOW you say that you BOTH are entering Thailand with the OA Visa.

By doing that... Yes you will need TWICE the required financial requirements needed to get a one Year extension of stay with the OA based retirement.
Louise *********
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@James *******
sorry I meant only my Husband on the OA as I am not 50 yet.
James ********
James ********
The OA visa with planning can get you up to two years of stay in Thailand.

To extend it inside Thailand has its requirements.

See the graphic for the common found extension requirements.

Proof of at least 65,000 Thai baht transferred ...by in international transfer...each month for the 12 months prior to the extension ending date is required.

Or deposit of 800,000 Thai baht in a Thai bank account in your sole name only is required.

Or you return to your home country and obtain a new OA Visa for retirement.
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