Can I switch from a Non-Immigrant OA visa to a Non-Immigrant O visa in Thailand without leaving the country?

Nov 9, 2021
3 years ago
Patrick *********
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Is it possible to change from a Non immigrant OA visa to a Non imm O visa(retirement) without leaving Thailand??

I'm on the first year of the OA visa ,it has never been extended and I have the necessary funds for the O visa.
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The inquiry is about the possibility of changing from a Non-Immigrant OA visa to a Non-Immigrant O visa (retirement) without leaving Thailand. Responses indicate that immigration officials usually require individuals to exit Thailand and re-enter with the new visa type. Some users mention complexities and risks associated with the visa change process and the possibility of obtaining a retirement visa through other means.
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Emma ****************
Ok yes it does sound particularly complex at this time. Even border hopping could be a bit risky. Will you do that then Patrick?
Emma ****************
Personally i'm not leaving with the volunteer visa December move on to 2 month extns via ED in Bankok. They didn't specify what it's called..just that my passport should be with them by the 13th if my visa expires on 22nd Dec, price 10,000. One year other ED visa 50.
Emma ****************
I know someone in KT who got the retirement visa last year Patrick. I could ask him which agency..? πŸ˜‰
Steve *******
Nope.
Bobby ********
Non-O retirement or married to a Thai?
Bobby ********
Patrick Sweeney. To save 1900 baht for an in-country extension?
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
Sort of looks like that, thanks for your input.

Why do you seem to think an agent couldn't change you from OA to O......I was under the impression that if you paid them enough you could get anything.
Bobby ********
Patrick Sweeney. I don't know the exact reason, but I know many who have tried. Same goes for STV. Agents won't touch it. I guess there are some things which are "out of bounds"
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
πŸ‘πŸ‘
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
but I wouldn't have to meet the "money in the bank" requirements or the insurance.
Bobby ********
Patrick Sweeney. Ok, so it's now too late to meet the financial requirement, so you're coming to the end of your stay. The covid extension will probably not be available in December, so I guess you've no choice but to leave and re-enter on a new visa, whatever that may be. Other than getting an ED visa I can't see any other option
Emma ****************
@Bobby *******
2 months or one year via ED through two agencies that i know of.
Bobby ********
Emma Tydeman-Ashton. There's no dodgy ED or volunteer visas being issued at this time. All the immigration heads have been moved around, so all bogus visas are on hold until the dust settles. I get the impression the OP needs something quickly
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
retirement
Patrick *********
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Ok, thanks for the reply.

If I was to leave the country for a "visa run" is there any countries in the region that we can get in to from Thailand without having to quarantine??
Bobby ********
Patrick Sweeney. If fully vaxxed you could probably do Singapore, but can I ask you why you would want to do that?
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
yes fully vaccinated...
Patrick *********
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@Bobby *******
because my current OA visa which expires in Dec is multiple entry so if I go out and back in before then I will get stamped in for another year.
Meno *****
Patrick Sweeney ... Hi. Does getting another year still apply currently if one leaves thailand & them re-enter?

I'm on an OA Visa, which started July 2018 & currently on my 1st OA Visa extension.
Bobby ********
Patrick Sweeney. Then the answer is no, you cannot change from OA to O, without leaving the country and allowing the OA to expire, and re-entering either on a non-O obtained overseas, or on a tourist visa or visa exempt and obtaining the O in-country
Stephan ***********
@Bobby *******
You can't even change from an expired O/A without leaving, no? The retirement extension is still "based on O/A" and you're trapped with this... :-(
Bobby ********
Stephan Studtmann. If it's expired, I assume you're on an OA extension of stay?
Stephan ***********
@Bobby *******
Visa run last year mid march, extension by entry, then this year extended (retirement) at Immigration. They told me I can't change to anything else here (Non-O marriage or retirement) without leaving first. It's always "based on O/A" with all the money and insurance requirements.

Of course... an "Agency" could fix my problem, but that's not the way I want to go... ;-)
Bobby ********
Stephan Studtmann. So you're on an OA extension of stay? An agent cannot change it, you have to leave the country, but there's no real benefit.
Stephan ***********
@Bobby *******
Some agents can solve everything...πŸ˜‰ But as mentioned... I don't want to try it out...

My last valid Visa was an O/A, expired in March 2020. Border run, one more year "permission of stay". Now I'm on a retirement extension since March this year.

And just because of this expired O/A I have to buy this "we don't pay for anything" insurance from the specific Thai companies list, the same extension based on Non-O don't need to do that... why ever...

Nobody can or want to explain the reason for that. Also I can't change from this extension to the marriage extension. Same here... why ever...

That's weird... one could think that a valid extension is a valid extension, what's the point with this "based on" and different rules?

So it looks like that I have to do what they want... leave, come back with exempt or TR, apply for the Non-O and then apply for the next one year extension; retirement or marriage is to decide later.
Patrick *********
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@Stephan **********
you mentioned you they won't allow you change from the retirement extension to the marriage extension is that because a marriage extension can only be done on the O visa or is it because you are already on the retirement extension?
Bobby ********
Stephan Studtmann..First up, I can tell you categorically there is no agent in Thailand can change the OA to O (retirement), whether you like to think so or not, it's a fact. If you're on the OA extension you CAN change to O (married to a Thai). In due course the O (retirement) will also get an insurance requirement. It's coming. I buy a "useless" insurance for 7700 baht for twelve months, which I figure is cheap compared to flying to another country, and paying 4000 Baht for one night at a hotel whilst waiting for test results. But coming from a financial background, I base this on financial advantage only. Having lived in Thailand for many years, I long ago stopped looking for logic in immigration policies and procedures
Meno *****
@Bobby *******
... Hi Bobby, may I ask where you got your insurance for 7,700 b?

If you could share the contact, that would be great thanks
Bobby ********
Meno Lek. Contact Arawan Namak
Robert **********
@Bobby *******
It looks like since last week, anyone entering the country, including someone on a non- retirement extension, will need general medical as well as Covid insurance covering US $50,000. It has to be for the time you are stamped in. For a non-O you’re next visa extension due date. I’ve seen prices of 100,000 to 200,000 baht per year. Travel and return close to your extension date, it’s cheaper.
Stephan ***********
Immigration Phuket says "no", you have to leave first and come back with Exempt, Tourist Visa or Non-O. Keen to see if someone could tell something different... :-)
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