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Can I enter Thailand multiple times on a 6-month multiple entry visa, and how does the tax residency rule work for stays under 180 days?
With multy entry visa 6 months you can enter Thailand as many times as you want? also by bus as many times you want? or just by air?
You became TAX resident of Thailand if you stay more that 180 days - in tax year 1.1-31.12 or 365 days in any period?
If I stay for example in 2024 from 15.7 till 31.12 - cca 167 days and in 2025 I stay 175 days (for example from 1.1 to 1.3 and from .5.9 till 31.12) that would not qualify me to Thai tax residency? Thank you
You became TAX resident of Thailand if you stay more that 180 days - in tax year 1.1-31.12 or 365 days in any period?
If I stay for example in 2024 from 15.7 till 31.12 - cca 167 days and in 2025 I stay 175 days (for example from 1.1 to 1.3 and from .5.9 till 31.12) that would not qualify me to Thai tax residency? Thank you
Answer summary
A 6-month Multiple Entry Tourist Visa (METV) allows an unlimited number of entries into Thailand via any border—land, air, or sea—within its validity period. Regarding tax residency, one becomes a tax resident in Thailand if they stay for more than 180 days in a calendar year (January 1 to December 31). If you stay less than 180 days in one year and a similar duration in the next, you will not be classified as a tax resident, thus potentially avoiding Thai taxes. However, the tax implications may vary if there are treaties in place with your home country regarding taxation.
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Angelo ***********
If you are less than 180 days per year here, than you are not a tax resident. But why do you bother? I would prefer to be a tax resident in Thailand, as the taxes are jokingly low.
Peter *********
@Angelo **********
35 % over 4 million you call that low ?
Andreas *********
@Peter ********
1 Up to 2 million it is 25 percent. 2 to 5 million 30 percent. Over 5 million 35 percent.There are also many write-offs that can significantly reduce your income. Get a good tax advisor.
Peter *********
@Andreas ********
exactly mate this is Thailand 🇹🇭 👍Andreas *********
@Peter ********
Things are not as hot as they seem. It mainly concerns the big fish or companies that have deregistered in their country of origin and therefore do not pay any taxes at all. It will not affect all other countries with double taxation agreements significantly. Taxes here are cheaper than in Europe, so nothing can come of it. From the looks of it so far, a lot of hot air for nothing (if you have paid taxes up to now).Peter *********
@Andreas ********
no clarification what happening yet same as 30 day to 60 day visa excempt on arrival and no inferstructe in place to deal with millions of falangsBart **************
@Peter ********
that's fairly low compared to other countries indeed.Angelo ***********
@Peter ********
Yes, in Germany or any other country it would be much higher. And then you forget the tax brackets before you hit that point and the tax free brackets.
Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
my country does not have DTa with Thailand. In Thailand dividend tax is 10%, that is not low. I would have to pay it in my own country and in Thailand, my business would lose its senceAngelo ***********
@Marija ********
No, you do not have to pay in your country and Thailand. You are not a tax resident of YOUR country.Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
does not work out in Croatia. I tried few timesAngelo ***********
@Marija ********
yes, you do. You only need to announce it to the country, lolz. You are not supposed to be tax resident in more than one country, that is what the term means, but up to you if you want to make tax declarations in half a dozen of countries.Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
I am tax resident of Slovakia and Croatia already for 13 years, in both countries every year i need to pay taxes. You can have 2 or more tax residencies. You do not lose your residency just because you are out of the country for more than 185 days. You really have no clue 🤦♀️Angelo ***********
@Marija ********
It is extremely unlikely that you are tax resident in two countries. I suggest to check the rules. In two EU countries it is basically impossible, as the amount of days to be tax resident is 185 days, and for two countries that would be 370 days. The year only has *******
days. So ... who has no clue?Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
yes I am 🤦♀️Where is the logic? I lived in many countries and I was always tax resident of two countries. In Eu it was easy because of Dta so did not have to pay anything on top. Why do you give advices about something you have no clue?Angelo ***********
@Marija ********
it has. Google it.
Kim *********
@Marija ********
I googled it too and Croatia is not mentioned in any of the resultsKim *********
@Angelo **********
I googled it too - Croatia is not mentioned in any of the resultsMaria *********
OP@Angelo **********
please google it for me and send it to me. I spent more than 2 days googling it and did not find it. Even the embassy confirmed there is no dta. Thank you so muchAngelo ***********
@Marija ********
By google.Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
no it does not have. Nor Slovakia. Where did you find this info?Angelo ***********
@Marija ********
And Croatia most certainly has a dual tax agreement with Thailand. As soon as your tax residency is Thailand, your old tax residency is irrelevant.Maria *********
OP@Angelo **********
where? 😀I have Croatian passport and tax residency in SlovakiaBart **************
@Angelo **********
agree, most of us should aim for it rather than avoid. If the 180 days rule is even in play, because most income is usually attributed based on other factors in the respective tax treaties.However the TS found that her country does not have a double tax avoidance treaty. I think that in her case it would make sense to avoid tax residency.
Alan ******
If you make it to 90 years of age it might become too much to be coming and going. How much will you be paying in Tax and is all this travelling worthwhile and regardless of what's been said we don't even know if or it will happen Yet.
Bart **************
METV: enter as many times as you want, also by land border. The maximum of two per calendar year applies to exemption.
Tax year: that's a calendar year. So indeed, staying just under 180 days in 2024 and again just under 180 days in 2025 means you aren't a tax resident, even if you stayed in Thailand just under 360 days consecutively.
Tax year: that's a calendar year. So indeed, staying just under 180 days in 2024 and again just under 180 days in 2025 means you aren't a tax resident, even if you stayed in Thailand just under 360 days consecutively.
Alistair **********
If you stay over 180 days in a calendar year then yes you become a tax resident based.
However, if you have a DTA then that can override that. Especially on a tourist visa, you will likely be a tax resident of your home country as well. So will need to read your DTA and work out which country you are deemed a tax resident of.
However, if you have a DTA then that can override that. Especially on a tourist visa, you will likely be a tax resident of your home country as well. So will need to read your DTA and work out which country you are deemed a tax resident of.
Maria *********
OP@Alistair *********
no DTA
Greg ***********
@Marija ********
TR visa Multi Entry 6 months As a resident of Croatia, you need, among other documents, a financial proof of having deposited 5000.- Euro in your bank account for the past three months, for the application to the multi entry Tourist Visa.
The visa will be valid for 6 months starting from the date of its issue. This means that within these 6 months of visa validity, you can enter Thailand as many times as you wish – and whatever border you use - by land, by sea or by air - you will get stamped in for 60 days stay permit each and every time.
Before the 60-days stay permit expires, you can buy a 30-days extension on top of these 60 days at immigration, for 1900.- THB, or you can exit Thailand and activate the next 60-days stay permit by re-entering.
The implementation of the proposed taxation system is, at the moment, a bit unclear. Myself and we all need more time and need to follow on how it will be unravelled and implemented, before we can give you detailed & correct info.
And because we don’t exactly know what will be levied in this matter by next year, I suggest you stay in Thailand less than 180 days per calendar year.
With a 179-days stay, and only by this, you avoid being classed as a tax resident inside Thailand, even on a tourist visa!
Maria *********
OP@Greg **********
in consulate in Croatia they told me 5000 eur is not required any moreGreg ***********
@Marija ********
that's cool! Even the better! I was wondering about it, because the 5000.- Euro requirement got discontinued for Germans by October 30, 2023. No more financial requirements 😊 🙂 However you should not forget to buy a good travel insurance that covers the whole duration of your planned holiday
Stephan ***********
Tax year = calendar year... so... 01.01.-31.12.
Jan ******************
After you’re granted a METV you can come and go as you wish within six months at any border land or air.
These are the requirements for a METV. You’ll have to apply in person at the consulate in Zagreb Croatia.
These are the requirements for a METV. You’ll have to apply in person at the consulate in Zagreb Croatia.
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Maria *********
OPThank you. But in Thai consulate Croatia they told me that bank statement is not required any more
Jan ******************
@Marija ********
Ok good. I don’t have a complete overview and I know people just have proved monthly salary or pension for a METV if they require any financial proof.
Michael ********
Grey area not clarified yet
Bart **************
@Michael *******
it may be grey for you, but it's not for others.Michael ********
@Bart *************
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89/navigating-new-foreign-income-rules greyBart **************
@Michael *******
the question that is asked confuses no one but you two. Tax residency goes by calendar year. Been like that since before we were all born.Michael ********
@Bart *************
That is exactly his question, even tax department are confused by this, read the bangkok postPeter *********
@Bart *************
so says the young pup with vast ammount of knowledge lol 😆Bart **************
@Peter ********
you even put the laughters emoticon down. You know whose replies are the funny ones? It's your own. Dunning Kruger at its finest.Bart **************
@Peter ********
I may not know everything but if you knew the rule about tax residency yourself (and how old it is), which you clearly don't, you would understand how embarrassing your current replies really are.Peter *********
@Bart *************
the pup who think he knows everything lol 😆Bart **************
@Michael *******
that has nothing to do with the TS's question. If other topics are grey, it doesn't mean rules that exist since the stone age are suddenly also grey.And please, if you know so little about a subject, just refrain from answering instead of telling other people that repliers who know the answers can't have a clue.
Michael ********
@Bart *************
And seriously how would they collect it, you have to submit tax following januaryBart **************
@Michael *******
read further down; she does indeed already know about the double tax treaty in question, namely that there is none. Hence the 180 days rule is VERY much in play. If I were in her position I'd also avoid this liability, no matter how much of a challenge enforcement could be.Bart **************
@Michael *******
that's not the point, the point is how the count to be a Thai tax resident works. Maybe the TS wants to submit tax just to comply with the law? Maybe the TS can use this rule to avoid taxes in home country (although for that the question should have rather been about the respective tax treaty but suppose she already knows that this 180 days rule is in play?).Peter *********
@Bart *************
it's a visa which can be revoked anytime , a thai resendesie cannot so this will be a challenge for the thai lawyersBart **************
@Peter ********
then you wouldn't be talking nonsense about revoking of METVs.Peter *********
@Bart *************
smoking the same as you obviously lol 😆Bart **************
@Peter ********
not sure what you are smoking, but METVs getting revoked is not a thing.Peter *********
@Bart *************
exactly this is a very grey area I agree 👍Bart **************
@Peter ********
not at all. That's exactly my point. Maybe you don't know the answers, that's something else. But let others just answer then.
Pete *******
@Michael *******
not at all a grey area. If fact it’s quite clear. If you’re inside Thailand for 180 days or more in any given tax year you are automatically deemed as a Thai tax resident.Jan ******************
@Pete ******
But everything depends on the tax agreement your country has with Thailand.Michael ********
@Pete ******
so why provide a tourist visa thats over 180 days ? Great for lawyersMichael ********
@Nigel *************
period of stay is 60 days its valid for 180 days, same i have non o multiple entry period of stay is 90 days but validity is 1 year
Nigel **************
@Michael *******
because it is not a Visa for 180 days. You have to leave the country after 60 days and come back inActivity
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