What are the rules regarding the duration of stay for visa-exempt or tourist visa entries in Thailand?

Jan 10, 2024
a year ago
Stuart *********
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We see many posts on here asking about how many days can I stay in Thailand on visa exempt or tourist visa entries.

The fact is that there is no maximum number of days that you could stay.

There is a rule that land border entries using a visa exempt entry is limited to two per calendar year (Jan 1st to Dec 31st) but no set rule on air entries.

Any “limit” is determined by the immigration officer you hand your passport to on entry. It’s their decision. If they think you are trying to “milk” the tourist visa or exempt entry system then they can ask you to show proof of an onward ticket, proof of accommodation and 20,000 baht (or equivalent ) in cash.

Very few would be asked for any of these. They’d generally only ask if they are looking for a way to deny you entry. But you *could* be asked.

Some immigration officers may spout a rule of “maximum 180 days in Thailand” or “only 3 entries per year allowed”. That’s just not the case and there are no rules pertaining to those conditions.

A number of local consulates around the region will limit you to one tourist visa per year, but there’s nothing to stop you applying for a tourist visa from a different consulate.

There’s many people that enter Thailand an extensive number of times per year for legitimate reasons (family, marriage, work overseas, etc). There is no limit. But the immigration officer has control over whether they let you enter or not.

Very little recourse if they decide not to let you in. You’could ask for a supervisor but chances are slim that they’d be overruled.

99% of tourists will never be asked for this, so those of you that have been coming for 20+ years will never experience the questions (and possible rejection). Those that the immigration officer thinks that they may be working or milking the system may be.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The duration of stay in Thailand on a visa-exempt entry or tourist visa is primarily determined by the immigration officer upon entry, rather than a fixed maximum number of days. While land border entries are restricted to two per calendar year, air entries do not have a specific limit. Questions may arise regarding proof of onward travel and financial capacity, but most tourists are unlikely to face such inquiries. Local consulates may have their own restrictions on tourist visas, but it's possible to apply for a visa from a different consulate. A recent comment highlighted the importance of being aware of tax residency laws, which consider anyone spending more than 180 days in Thailand as a tax resident.
Garrett ***********
Thank you fornthe clarification
@Stu***
Peter ********
Great report / retort Stuart. Thanks, as always, for your enlightened remarks ! 🙏🙏.
Michael ********
I just wonder now from when reading up on tax laws "you are considered a tax resident if you spend more than 180 days of the year in the country" I know its nothing new but TIT
Brandon ************
@Michael *******
that's always been the case. There's nothing new that has changed about becoming a tax resident at 180 days. The only thing that they changed with the new policy is that income used to not be taxed if it was earned in a different year than the year it was transferred to Thailand and is now subject to taxation regardless of when it was earned.
Steve ********
@Brandon ***********
And this is the point that so many barstool experts are missing. The "big changes" they talk about is nothing more than the closing of a loophole which has been used by Thai millionaires to legally avoid paying tax. Sadly these bar-stool experts truly believe the "new rules" are designed solely to target expat pensioners
Rob *******
Here’s my situation. I’m currently in Thailand & have been here since
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/2023, I came on a UK 60 day tourist Evisa. I have extended once at immagration, i have to leave the country on
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/2024,

I dont want to abuse or milk any system, but i would like to stay for another
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months.

After looking online i believe i have 2 options, Do a visa run & get a 60 day tourist visa & extend bringing it to 90 days or i could do 2 land border crossings & extend each time for 120 days.

What would be the best action to take ?
Brandon ************
@Rob ******
are you looking for the simplest option? Do one border bounce by yourself. Go see Singapore or Vietnam for a few days and fly back and get your 30 days and extend for another 30. But then you're pushing the limits so use a land border bounce agency who will drive you to a land border and make sure you get out and back in with no issues. I think they usually cost around 3000 baht but I'm not sure. One I hear mentioned a lot in Bangkok is "Thai visa service" but most big cities have this type of offering.
Rob *******
@Brandon ***********
any that i’m likely to not get refused, i was thinking of doing 2 border bounces & extending each time
Brandon ************
@Rob ******
yes, you should be fine doing one more border bounce by yourself. But for the 2nd one I would use an agency to do land border bounce.
Rob *******
@Brandon ***********
i was going to use an agency for both, i thought these “Agencies” were just hired taxis ? drive you & a few others over the border & back
Brandon ************
@Rob ******
they do drive you there but they also have an "understanding" with the border agents to not ask any questions about your past history. The only thing the officers will check is that you're not over your 2 land entries allowed without a visa per year, but they won't dig any deeper than that when you're with an agent.
Brandon ************
It's a lot more about the activity than the time in Thailand. The oil workers that are doing 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and enter Thailand every month probably won't have any issues with 12 visa exempt entries because that's not suspicious.

But no one is fooling the immigration officer by doing 30 days and getting a 30 day extension and spending every single one of those 60 days in Thailand then leaving for a week and returning. It's obvious that's just to get more time living in Thailand without a long term visa. Some people think the immigration officers are daft though.
Jo **********
@Brandon ***********
exactly right. it’s the pattern. before i got my current visa I entered visa exempt about 9 times in a year. I never stayed more than 30 days and always flew out for 7-10 days. Also no extensions. Never got a single question from immigration
Faye *********
And the many posts will continue as people just ask their question without trying to find out if 1000 people asked the same question before 🤣🤣🤣
Gregg ************
@Faye ********
The answers to these types of questions can change over time as immigration policy changes. So there is value to asking the question again even if a person has done some searching. It’s certainly useful to learn if one or more people had recently faced greater scrutiny on entry - not something you can learn from older experiences.
Stuart *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Faye ********
for sure. Facebook search sucks so many will ask the same questions time and time again. We aim to please 😀
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