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What is the process for obtaining a 1-year retirement visa extension in Chiang Mai, Thailand?

Michael ***********
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Chiang Mai Immigration: My 1-Year Retirement Extension Experience

Yesterday I got my 1-year extension of stay based on a Non-Immigrant O (retirement) visa (NOT O-A) at Chiang Mai Immigration, near the airport. I originally entered Thailand three months ago.

First, a disclaimer: things can be different at other immigration offices, or even at the same office on another day. This is Thailand, after all, where randomness is practically an official administrative procedure. I'm simply sharing my experience in the hope it helps someone.

My timeline:

06:00 – Arrived at Immigration, exactly 10 days before my current permission-to-stay stamp expired. There were already around 20-25 people in the live queue outside the booth. Some people were sitting on chairs, with friends or relatives holding their places.

06:45 – They started handing out queue numbers.

07:00 – Got number B16 and sat down to fill in the four required forms.

08:20 – Document checks started. There were two groups:

- People who had submitted their documents the previous day in the collection basket. They were called by name. This group was processed in about 30 minutes.

- New applicants like me, who had received their queue numbers that morning, were called by number.

08:55 – My number was called. I was asked to correct three things and return to the same window without joining the queue again:

- Copies of the relevant bank book pages had to be printed in the correct size. There's a copy shop around the corner.

- One of the forms, STM.2, had to be replaced with a newer version.

- I had to sign the eVisa form using a blue pen.

09:30 – Documents checked and accepted! I was given a new queue number, 959, for the immigration officer interview. I was told to return to the main building at around 13:30.

13:15 – Back at Immigration.

14:30 – My number was called. They collected all my documents, checked everything again, took the 1,900 THB fee, and told me to sit down and wait again. 🤦

15:10 – Called in for a photograph.

16:00 – Finally! Exactly 10 hours after arriving, I received my 1-year extension of permission to stay in Thailand.

But I wasn't quite done.

Immediately afterwards, I went through another round:

- Another queue number.

- A couple more document copies.

- Another document check.

- Another queue number.

- Another photograph.

- Another 3,800 THB fee.

- Another queue.

This was for the Multiple Re-Entry Permit, and took approximately one additional hour.

A few practical tips:

1. Bring a laptop. There is Wi-Fi, and you'll have plenty of time to use it.

2. Bring something to eat and drink.

3. Bring some extra cash for photocopies and unexpected expenses.

4. Have patience. Seriously. A LOT of patience.

5. Double-check your forms and document copies, but be prepared for something to need changing anyway.

That's it. A long day, but I got everything done independently, without using an agent.

I'm happy to answer any questions about the process or the documents I submitted. Hopefully, my experience will save someone a little time and frustration!
Answer summary
This post outlines a detailed personal experience of obtaining a 1-year extension of stay based on a Non-Immigrant O (retirement) visa at Chiang Mai Immigration. The author describes a timeline of events, from arriving early to waiting through multiple document checks. Tips for prospective applicants include bringing a laptop, food, and ensuring all documents are correctly filled out and copied. The discussion highlights variations in immigration experiences across Thailand, emphasizing that some locations are less crowded and the process can be significantly quicker.
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Andy *******
Andy *******
lots of comments not sure if it was asked but how did you go about opening bank account with you initial 90 day visa, thank you and which bank

will be doing it in the next few weeks also in chiang mai
Aslam ******
Aslam ******
6 am at immigration office???
Herman ******
Herman ******
**09:30** – Documents checked and accepted! I was given a new queue number, 959, for the immigration officer interview. I was told to return to the main building at around 13:30. Than i go out for lunch and comeback at 13.30 that is how i do it ,i not stay 10 hours in that building.
Andreas ************
Andreas ************
Phuket immigration isn’t as bad as long as you have all the correct documentation which if you follow the checklist is fine. I was in and out within 1hr. I had to go back the next day to collect the multi entry visa but again all done quickly.
Steven ********
Steven ********
Congrats! Dealing with immigration or other govt agencies not easy in Thailand….worse in Bangkok. People laugh at those using agencies for this stuff but they know the game and get the job done for you….whats 10 hours of your time and probably a years worth of frustration worth? I know it’s not cheap to use them but there is a price for everything. Just got drivers license here and for the 1st time used an agency for this kind of thing. Gotta admit, cost a few dollars but I was in and out in an hour and saw at least 2 farang sent away for imperfect documents. Just sayin! Again congrats for the renewal! ✌🏻🙏🏻🇹🇭
นิรมล **********
นิรมล **********
😍It's good to do it yourself. In Chiang Mai it's a way of life to relax and go slow. Well done. I'm a Thai, Chiang Mai born, and glad you like the slow life here! 😂😂😂 Welcome to Chiang Mai.
Alan **********
Alan **********
I doubt there's anything, other than ZERO optional scenarios, that would make me take an entire day like that to process this.

That said, you DO mention people having left their docs the previous day, coming back and taking about
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hour to be processed the 2nd day.

So, I'm thinking that unless the IO is a looooong way away from where I'm staying, I'll make 2 trips.
BraveFl********
BraveFl********
This is exactly what Thai people have to deal with when we go to government offices in person, too. It’s always been like this, and it never changes. These people don’t actually want to work—they just want a job and a pension. We’ve been dealing with government offices like this our whole lives, and things have never gotten any better. 😂
Dai ***********
Dai ***********
I heard this before and it's normal. I knew some American and English guys that did it for the second time. They still don't speak thai and can't make good noodles. That's how you get your second visa extension every 6 months. Taking language school and cooking classes and muy thai. They had no money, the wrong woman can do that.
Ottar *******
Ottar *******
Dette er grunnen til at jeg har gitt opp visum i Thailand. De vil åpenbart ikke at folk skal oppholde seg i landet i mer enn 30 dager, selv om jeg har solid økonomi til å klare meg selv. Det blir korttidsopphold i Thailand og langtidsopphold i andre land de kommende vintrene.
Philip ******
Philip ******
Seems it takes lots of effort just to be retired here as a foreigner.. 😑
Etienne ******
Etienne ******
Alternatively add oil with an agent and get everything done in one hour. They prepare all the documents for you and pay a small fee for express processing.
Olga *********
Olga *********
We have a lawyer handle it; we’re back out in 10 minutes. A day or two later, she brings our passports back to us in Chiang Mai. The rules change every year, and I don’t feel like dealing with any hassle. For the 90-day reports, we just do those online.
BlueLyc*******
BlueLyc*******
Max 45 minutes in Chiang Rai
Sansan *******
Sansan *******
I used an agent’s help. There were in total 6 of us in the group. As instructed the day before. we gathered at the agent’s office around 9:30 am. We were driven to the bank first, did the bank thing and proceeded to the immigration office. Arrived at the Chaeng Wattana government complex building around 12 noon and everything was done and dusted by 5 pm. All I was required to do was, walk around, check out the food courts and sit for coffee and some food. Was called in for an interview around 3 pm. Paid in total 22,000 baht. 4000 baht was for the multiple entry visa. All in a day’s work. Happy with the quality of service and what I got for what I paid. Just being kind to myself as I am 77 and I retired only at 72.
Steve *******
Steve *******
Well. I just take my Bank Statement and
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B to my agent. Meet next day at central festival for photo. 30 minutes
Caroline *******
Caroline *******
This sounds very similar to my experience a couple of weeks ago. The only difference being that due to C Mai Immigration (Airport) being very busy when we went to get a Certificate of Residence, they said they would post it to us and be with us in 3 weeks time.

That would have meant that there wouldn't be enough time to have the 800K Baht in our bank account for 2 months. We started the process 5 days after we arrived in C Mai...

As a consequence we had only one day to get our extension. Which we did due to the help of a vigilant Thai 'Visa Fixer' who was fabulous.

We made it in the same sort of time frame of the day as you describe here.

And I would a couple more things to take with you - Toilet paper, some breakfast, maybe a clip board to rest the docs on when signing and a book to read.

Very useful information Michael. thanks for posting.
Stacey **********
Stacey **********
Visiting Thailand at the moment and was wondering about what was needed to retire here so this was interesting. 🙏
Donald ********
Donald ********
I live in Songkhla i go with all my documents done at home already, at 9am after going to my bank close to the office for the same day stamp in my bank book and update. Once i present my forms and passport it takes 1 to 1-
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hours to do everything and then my girlfriend and i go out shopping then have lunch at Central Festival in Hat Yai.
Maxy *******
Maxy *******
I do my own at Jomtien Immigration. Very quick. I was in and out in 5 minutes all checked and photographed and paid 1,900 baht. Giving up plastic token with a number and went back the next day to pick up my passport and again in and out in 2 minutes. Fantastic service.
Robert ***********
Robert ***********
Mind boggling! You have to wonder what they do with all the paper the collect daily!!
Albert *******
Albert *******
In Bangkok head office, ordinary persons have no chance without their Agents.

I had +800,000/- in my account but they rejected. They asked for monthly income/remittance slip evidence from foreign bank. If you go through Agents, it costs about 18,000/- and NO Question at all. This is Amazing Thailand. 🤣🤣🤣🇹🇭
Rob *********
Rob *********
In Buriram is just go to immigration office in the late about one hour before they close . Almost nobody there ..no lines, no waiting . All done in less than 30 minutes. Works every time 🤷‍♂️
Jenny ******
Jenny ******
I live in Hua Hin. My partner and I renewed our retirement visas for the third time in August.

I tend to go to immigration on Thursday afternoons in hua hin as it’s usually quiet.

We went to the bank for opening time (10.30am) then drove straight to immigration office with documents (kept a list from past experience). No queue yet so both our documents were checked in 15mins (didn’t need half of them)

Office closes 12 till 1pm for lunch

Renewal done by the time office closed for lunch!

Probably luck with timing but seems to be getting easier each time we go (🤞🏼) - immigration officers were really nice too (checking officer even smiled and waved bye to us when we left!!!)

However, my son lives in bkk and took him 7 hrs just to get a re-entry permit! 🤷🏻‍♀️
David ***************
David ***************
First mistake. I went to immigration instead of I went to my agent.
Jens **********
Jens **********
I'm not going to bother. I'll just go to Thailand with my wife on extended holidays and look at Malaysia as a better option.
Piet ********
Piet ********
il faut vraiment envie de vivre dans un pays pareil, c'est de la folie.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
Considering it's Chiang Mai, you were blessed
Werner ************
Werner ************
Sounds like a fun day
Eric *******
Eric *******
I lived in CM for 2 years. Terrible process to renew the Visa. Now I'm in Pattaya. Flawless, helpful, fast, easy. AND you don't have to line up at 6am to get it done.
Fokke *******
Fokke *******
I do it myself for 7 years now in Pattaya, this year took me 15 minutes and next day could pick up my passport
Bruno ***********
Bruno ***********
And... bring a foldable chair!
Steve ********
Steve ********
Take the correct colour pens and NOT the ones that you can erase if you make a mistake otherwise, get another pen and start again.
IH8Li******
IH8Li******
Things cheap people deal with…
Jean *******
Jean *******
You can find everything you need and instructions here :

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David ****************
David ****************
A Good idea would be have your papers in order before going filled and signed not rocket science
Noel ***********************
Noel ***********************
Wait until you try to deal with corruption in an immigration office and don't assume that everyone who uses an agent spends their life propping up a bar somewhere
Andy ******
Andy ******
The one and only time I did my 12 month extension on my Retirement visa in Phuket main immigration office ,they took all the documents checked then gave number ,when called go with passport and all documents and pay fee then told to come back next day after 1.00pm to pick up passport and do the multiple entry visa after get passport back
Jesper *******
Make appt online be there 15mins before your appt make sure to inform them u have online queue and already there.....called my number (online queue) when next officer available....handout all docs told to wait outside ....after 10mins called my number paid 1900baht take photo was told to wait outside again....after 10mins name being called get passport back from officer checked date of extension and leave the place ...done less than 40mins CW bkk
Scally*******
A very helpful post and thanks for sharing this information. 1. Are multiple copies of each document required by the IO? (Appreciate having spares available is good practice)2. TM.30, assuming you have your own home, do you use the TM.30 from when you first arrived or do you renew it a week or so before applying for the extension?
Rike ********
Rike ********
well, at least you managed to do it in one day, wooot-wooot! I had a lot of different experiences the last years, 555
Pete ******
Pete ******
It's interesting to me the difference in immigration offices. I did the same process at Khon Kaen. Prepared my documentation the day before, and showed up at 8am the next day. I completed the process, including the multiple re-entry, and was back in my vehicle and driving home at 10:30am. There were folks there before me, but not many. I went midweek. Easy morning and saved myself the agent fees. I'm happy!
Jake *********
Jake *********
Poor people experiences. You can see how they don't value their time, so they have no money, so their time is not worth anything. Then they sit through 10 hours instead of 30 minutes and then they write a giant Facebook post about it. Like them taking 10 hours to do a 30 minute thing is going to teach anybody anything. Classic stuff, 5 stars.
Fabi *********
Fabi *********
Thank you for sharing this
Den **********
Den **********
Did you have to have your passport validated at your nearest embassy ie Stamped copy.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Den Williams no
Béla ****************
Béla ****************
So much trouble for staying in Thailand.
Amy *********
Amy *********
@Béla ***************
It is, bunch of BS requirements docs nobody tells you the same thing of what’s needed - each location telling you different information, you would think government entity should have the same guidelines…..nah not in Thailand 🤦🏻‍♀️
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
@Béla ***************
not really

But can avoid even that if you're willing to take some risk and also pay agent to to do the most of the work
Katsu ****
For the 5000 or so in fees, I’m very happy to spend ten minutes signing blank forms then to spend 10 hours of my time sitting around waiting.I just did my O type non immigrant visa today.I went into the office with my bank paperwork, signed some forms and ten minutes later I was on my way.Works for me and I damn sure am not lazy. I value my time and getting things done right the first time.
GeeVolving *********
GeeVolving *********
Make a copy of everything you submit beforehand and use it as a template for next year; Number your passport pages, it will make all the copies easier to organize; Remember they give you up to 45 days to apply. Do it early and it will reduce a lot of stress.
Joe *******
Joe *******
Where do you actually go at the immigration office to renew a retirement visa. So much confusion here. Hua Hin a walk in the park. My turn next week.
Mark ********
Mark ********
Yeh I will stick to 10 mins at the bank and 20 seconds at immigration and paying 12.5k. I do my own 90 day (5 mins), tm30's (1 hour max - as my landlord won't do it) and any residency letters (1 hour).
Gary *********
Gary *********
If you go to an immigration outside a tourist area there are no forms to fill in and the whole thing takes about 20mins, a 90 day report take’s about 30seconds.
Don *******
Don *******
Gary Higgins Jomtien (Pattaya) is one of the busiest tourist areas in Thailand, but my yearly extension there has never taken me more than an hour and in recent years has been half that. For example, for my extension this year there was exactly one person in front of me and my number appeared within 3 minutes of me sitting down. !0 minutes after that I was out.

Chiang Mai seems to be a bizarre exception and I can't imagine why it is so slow there. The very idea of queuing up at 7am to get a number seems like something out of the ark to me. Why can't they do online appointments? Or just give out the numbers all day like they do in Jomtien?
Scott ******
Scott ******
Gary Higgins I initially flew into Thailand in Chiang Mai, later moved to Chiang Rai. Tried to renew up there and they said I can't and sent me back to Chiang Mai. I wasn't too thrilled about that as you can imagine.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Gary Higgins I'm afraid I can go to immigration only at the location I live in
Jochen *******
Jochen *******
Less than one hour at Sukhothai immigration for yearly extension
Ged *******
Ged *******
Do I need this if I am married to a Thai National..
Aslam ******
Aslam ******
@Ged ******
No exemptions if you are married to Thai??
Guy *******
Guy *******
@Ged ******
... The Marriage Visa requirements are much more. Do the retirement if you can.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
@Ged ******
yes, you are

And the process is more difficult, you have to PROVE that you're actually living together
Ged *******
Ged *******
Michael Sternberg thanks for the information we have a very successful restaurant in Portugal for the past four years
Darryl ********
Darryl ********
Thanks for sharing, I hope it doesn't take that long at Krabi
Joseph *********
Joseph *********
Interesting.... so GLAD I have the 10 year LTR Visa... no renewals (except at 5 year review, and its totally online) and only 1 year reporting (never have to, as it resets if you leave the country, and MOST people go somewhere each year)... 50,000 Baht or 5,000 Baht per year.... other benefits too like Priority Lane, Digital work permit , no tax on offshore money
Doug ********
Doug ********
Well done, that's it for another year.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
Well done! I might have to go through that someday soon 🥴
Ulrich *************
Ulrich *************
Meine Erfahrung in Bangkok war positiver. Um 9.00 angekommen, Antrag ausfüllen lassen für 140 Baht, 20 Minuten gewartet, kurzer Check vom Bearbeiter, zurück zur Wartezone. Nach 30 Minuten aufgerufen und Pass mit Visum entgegengenommen. 10.25 Immigration verlassen.
Bazza ***********
Doing mine tomorrow... Not looking forward to it... But my wife does all the paper work and never had a problem... Touch wood
Michael ******
Michael ******
I did an extension myself once before and didn't enjoy the experience

After that I have used an agent this time and it has been much much smoother albeit with a fee of course, depends how much you want to save on fees and stress I guess

But thank you for sharing your experience 👍
Todd *********
Todd *********
this is exactly why agents are booming. If you can afford an agent, use one.
John *****
John *****
Use an agency the whole process takes just under 2 hours every time. ( Bank an hour or 2 then immigration 30 minutes )
Reti*****
Reti*****
What a horrible experience.
Jonathan *************
Jonathan *************
RetiredHH you've led a sheltered life
Reti*****
Reti*****
Jonathan Pressburger all day for a visa and all that drama. I live a good life and would not waste a day at immigration 🤣
Jeen ************
Jeen ************
Always a big deal at immigration 😥
Garfield *********
Garfield *********
They don't like people doing their own application, they ask for photo copies of everything, picture of your cat etc, agents don't need half of all that, answer is obvious, ps what do they do with all the hundreds of thousands of paper copies day after day week after week year after year, asking for a friend.
Mau ********
Mau ********
Garfield Gibbons nonsense I’m doing this for 16 years without a problem
Donald ********
Donald ********
Garfield Gibbons They save them so next time you go they want to see if you lied to them,
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Den **********
Den **********
Garfield Gibbons hopefully put in public toilets. That bum gun sprays the walls. 💥
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Garfield Gibbons and yet you can learn to play by their rules and save those 15K of agent payment
Simone ********
Simone ********
Michael Sternberg shitty rules anyway
SugarFree*********
SugarFree*********
I can't understand for the life of me why anybody would want to suffer through long waits and long lines, getting the runaround and having to deal with all of that when for a very reasonable price you can have an agency that specializes in the process do it all for you quickly, correctly the first time and efficiently.
Adventurous***********
Adventurous***********
SugarFreeTruth2026 20.000 baht is worth the wait
SugarFree*********
SugarFree*********
AdventurousPeacock2419 and 12.000 baht was worth not having to wait
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
SugarFreeTruth2026

You seem to have a rather peculiar understanding of financial freedom: apparently, if I choose not to spend 12,000 baht on an agent because I'd rather spend that money on a nice dinner, a show, a trip or a present for my children, I'm somehow financially unsuccessful. I'm 53, retired, and have enough savings and income to live comfortably without working. I have something you seem to have overlooked: time. I can afford to spend ten hours in an immigration office because my time is mine, not something I have to sell to an employer. I'd rather spend my money on things that bring me pleasure than pay someone to stand in a queue on my behalf. That's not a financial constraint. That's a choice. And retiring at 53 was precisely one of the financial decisions I got right.
SugarFree*********
SugarFree*********
AdventurousPeacock2419 if you have to wait until you're 78 to retire, you've already lost the game and have not made correct financial decisions. Again, if 12,000 baht is an issue or concern, you are not financially free or prepared enough to be considered retired.
Adventurous***********
Adventurous***********
SugarFreeTruth2026 maybe he didn't want to retire at 78
SugarFree*********
SugarFree*********
Steven Kwok to each his own and if 12,000 baht is a lot of money to a retiree, that retiree was obviously not financially ready to retire properly
Steven ******
Steven ******
SugarFreeTruth2026 12.000 baht is big money for a retiree. sitting at home and immigration office and playing mobile phone for a day is the same for a retiree.
Garfield *********
Garfield *********
SugarFreeTruth2026 agree
Rajesh *********
Rajesh *********
SugarFreeTruth2026 nothing to do. Most retirees are excited and look forward so they can become busy.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
SugarFreeTruth2026 I'm retired. Nothing to rush for..
Chris ******
Chris ******
Michael Sternberg your retired and have everything to rush for 😂😂😂 . Use your last year's wisely 😉
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Chris Bird last year?

I have at least 50 years ahead of me, if you mean that..
Jeroen ************
Jeroen ************
Mae Hong Son (city) immigration. Not the first extension but also for a change of visa. 30 minutes.
Tom ********
Tom ********
Who wants to this idiotic system 🤢☝️
Nigel **********
Nigel **********
My mate had every document necessary, had all the forms filled in correctly but fell at the final hurdle when he was asked to initial an extra sheet of paper and realised he only had a pen with black ink. They sent him to 7 Eleven to buy a pen with blue ink, even though he could see one on the Immigration Officer's desk.

They love being awkward!
Alex ************
What kind of documents from bank do you need?
Nigel *********
For the retirement visa I thought you needed either proof of income of over 65k bhat a month OR
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0 in a Thai bank account - is this notice saying you need both ???
Karsten **************
Karsten **************
In Khon Kaen it takes 15 minutes.
Giraffe *********
Giraffe *********
Life to short i use an agent
Raymond *****
Raymond *****
All for the love to stay in Thailand. No choice, have to go along with the system.
Toni ****
Toni ****
Days at the immigration always take the whole day in Thailand. At 12 is lunch break and no one will work for an hour. Closing at 4:30PM to 5PM so if you do not arrive before opening in the morning you can calculate to come back the next day in the worst case 😅
Stephen *******
Stephen *******
If you're single, try to hook up with an immigration officer. 😂.
Steve **********
Steve **********
@Stephen ******
😆 even a well dressed politely assertive Thai wife makes a huge difference.
Guy *******
Guy *******
Steve Barnwell ... Just be polite and smile.
Stephen *******
Stephen *******
Steve Barnwell Agree 100 %
Danny ********
Danny ********
Well done👍🏼

"Randomness is practically an official administrative procedure", Made me laugh as it's 100% true yet no Thai's recognise it as so.
MagentaGo**********
MagentaGo**********
Ridiculous 10 hours. My first extension and re-entry permit just spend 1.5 hours. 😵‍💫😵‍💫
GentleG********
GentleG********
A question (for anyone): my home bank branch is in Hua Hin but I live in BKK. Any possible issues with getting that bank letter?
Paul *******
Paul *******
GentleGoose6420 yes you will need a bank letter from your home branch ,
John *********
John *********
My bank is in Bankok - BBL and I live in Phayao - no problem in getting a letter at the Phayao branch. I also need a years statement which I order at the Phayao branch (comes from Bangkok) a couple of weeks before I go to Imm. Then a top up statement printed at the Phayao branch, and the Imm letter on the day I go to Immigration. No issues at all.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Paul Ellis Even if KBank?
J *****
J *****
GentleGoose6420 If K bank, Krungsri, SCB they can issue at any branch
GentleG********
GentleG********
J Ash I really hope you're right! I need to go ask at my local KBank then! Thanks.
Tony ********
Tony ********
GentleGoose6420 I opened an account with Kasikorn Bank 23 years ago in Phuket. I now have lived in Udon Thani for 6 years, never registered my address with the bank and have never had any problem obtaining a letter for immigration from my local bank.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
GentleGoose6420 I'm afraid you need to go to your home branch to get the letter. But worth trying in BKK first, of course. The letter validity is 1 week.
Glennstev ***********
Glennstev ***********
Michael Sternberg what is the bank letter?...is a copy of bankbook not sufficient?
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
@Glennstev **********
no

You need a statement from the last 12 months and also current balance. That's in addition to a copy of your bank book.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Michael Sternberg Ok thanks. I might try to switch home branches before then. Hopefully that won't screw anything up.
Reti*****
Reti*****
GentleGoose6420 I tried changing branches and they would not. Easier to just open a new bank account nearer your location.
GentleG********
GentleG********
I love all the "Just pay an agent! I can't be bothered to waste my precious time!" comments from lazy farangs who spent that extra time sitting on a barstool nursing a watery Singha. 🤣
OutgoingCat***********
OutgoingCat***********
GentleGoose6420 there are very many foreigners for whom paying an agent is small change. Also, plenty of foreigners who don't step into a bar. Why would they?

Don't project your own lifestyle on others.
GentleG********
GentleG********
OutgoingCaterpillar485 Are those the ones you see walking by outside while you're ordering another round?
Darren ******
Darren ******
GentleGoose6420 Very appropriate nickname there m8 with Goose being the standout word.😆😆😆
GentleG********
GentleG********
Darren Hill You still drunk on Leo??🍺
GentleG********
GentleG********
Darren Hill Because you seem like a distinguished gentleman of discerning tastes 👌
Darren ******
Darren ******
GentleGoose6420 Nah, Friday for me.No beer during the week.Busy at the gym.But thanks for asking👌And how did you know I drink Leo?I only swapped from Chang 3 weeks ago.🤣
Gregory *********
Gregory *********
Congratulations
Siegfried ************
Siegfried ************
Reading this, I’m glad I live in Mukdahan. I had an online appointment for 1:00 PM, and by 1:20 PM, I was back in my car heading home with my extension of stay stamped in my passport. Still, thanks for sharing your experience.
Martin *******
Martin *******
Just did my Non O retirement extension today at Jomtien. 1 hour at the bank to get the letter and 1 year statement 🥱. Coming to the immigration, I see they now split the queues (short term visa, family , retirement, general inquiry) which helped as there was a line at the short term but none at the retirement line. Documents were all prepared, so it took me 10-15minutes and I went out with a number to pick up my passport tmr after 2pm which is just jump in and pick it up.
Don *******
Don *******
Martin Zacek That sounds very much like how it happens for me at Jomtien, though I always pop back in the next day to pick up my passport. Under three hours total from leaving my condo to returning, including lunch somewhere, with the time split more or less equally between the bank and immigration. Clearly Jomtien is very efficient compared to some places.
Willi*****
Just use an agent ffs.Not expensive.Get your photo taken at immigration straight away in and out in a couple of minutes.
Max **********
What was your process in obtaining bank account and what is your bank?
Pascal *********
Pascal *********
Wow so long.
David *******
David *******
Renewed my Non O at Phetchabun immigration, in and out in 50 minute’s. About an hour before to get the Bank letter and Photo’s. Did it my self this time, my wife usually “guides” me, she likes to talk, she is currently in the UK “guiding” our now grown up children.
Tom ********
Tom ********
My turn will come

One of these days.

Thanks for the heads up that was very informative, and pretty much what I would expect. Nothing's easy in Thailand as we all know., but patience, perseverance will get you there in the end.

I will keep your message in case I need any advice in the future, thanks
Nigel *********
Nigel *********
I'm done with their ever changing and ever more complicated nonsense after 26 years of being a frequent visitor and the last 18 spending around half the year here i'm done with it.

Steps are already being taken to remove Thailand from my life, I really do have better things to do with my time than play their silly games.
Stephen ***********
Stephen ***********
Nigel Anstice where are you from ??? have you seen the hoops you have to go through to take a Thai to the UK or Oz or NZ ??
Donald ********
Donald ********
Stephen Griffiths He's from England ,his name should give it away,Nigel.
Martin *******
Martin *******
Nigel Anstice I agree that they could introduce a better system, more years, unlimited years, maybe just yearly financial checks, all online ... but if you now come and say you go to Vietnam like nearly everbody today with their shitty rules and Visas ...then you must be out of your mind.
Nigel *********
Nigel *********
Martin Zacek Certainly won't be vietnam. Most likely Malaysia. 90 days on arrival no visa required and that hasn't changed for decades. With Thailand I am afraid apart from the ever increasing hoops to jump through I am quite simply worn out with the constant change and not knowing where you stand.

I was talking to someone today who always comes from Austrailia with a friend for 3 months in Thailand evey year, Just as happened to myself recently for what ever reason their tourist visas never turned up despite applying in plenty of time. They equally as pissed off as myself changed their destination to the Philippines. Avid scuba divers each spending 3000bt+ per day several times diving per week for 3 months, gone to the phillippines, along with 180 expensive hotel days, along with 180 days worth of restaurant meals and copious ammounts of beer.

It all must make sense to someone.
Nigel *********
Nigel *********
Donald Hauser Then why do they have the tourist visas? They issue them, their rules. From UK and most other countries you are very wrong tourist visas are not issued on arrival, you get a visa waiver. If you check the rules that you seem so keen on a tourist visa can only be applied for and issued in your own country of residence. They are for a duration of 60 days on arrival extendable by 30 days then you have to leave Thailand. They come in two forms, either single or multi entry.

Plenty of people I know spend an extended period in a warmer country during the winter months. How is going on holiday for the winter then returning home for the remainder of the year not being a tourist?

Some of you internet experts really make me laugh, and you really need to start checking the substance of what nonsense you are posting.
Donald ********
Donald ********
Nigel Anstice Tourist visas are given on arrival for Australia and most other countries, do not need to apply for them. Another thing 3 months stay is not being a tourist it's trying to stay here outside the rules.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Nigel Anstice So you're going to play some OTHER country's silly games? 'Cause they all are. 🤦🏻‍♂️
James *******
James *******
Excellent detail, thank you very much for taking the time to let the community know. All of these details, your experience, and the positive of outcome, of course.
Galli *********
Galli *********
0r 7k use an agent and enjoy your day. 55
Heather **********
Heather **********
Use an agent every time.
Denis *******
Denis *******
You've just outlined why I chose the Elite / Privilege visa.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Denis Annie Because you're completely helpless? Is that why?
Denis *******
Denis *******
GentleGoose6420 Nope. Just that bureaucracy is not my thing, I'll leave that to those that can't do better.
Donald ********
Donald ********
Denis Annie Been doing mine for 7 years never had a problem yet, takes about 1 to 1
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hours then we go out for lunch and shopping.
Ken ************
Ken ************
Should have used an agent
Martin *******
Martin *******
Ken Hutchinson I disagree. I used an agent the first time as I came with 30 days visafree and they then had to convert this into 3 months visa and directly a 12 month extension. After that it is just routine. You anyway need to go to the bank what took more time than my extension. 2nd, even with an agent you need to go to the immigration to take a photo. So it is 15,000thb+ or just the Visa fee of 1,900thb ...🤷‍♂️
Colin *********
Colin *********
Martin Zacek
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baht, I use an agent 8500 baht. Money we'll spent for the convenience
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Ken Hutchinson why should I pay somebody for something that I can do by myself?
Donald ********
Donald ********
Michael Sternberg yes my rent is 12,000 baht so if i paid an agent i would be out one months rent.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Michael Sternberg Some people are just lazy and incompetent, I think. They'll hire an agent to tie their shoes for them.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Ken Hutchinson OK Sheila. Go watch your taped reruns of RayGunn. 🤣
Ken ************
Ken ************
GentleGoose6420 Well you name is spot on Goose
Ken ************
Ken ************
Michael Sternberg Sorry genius
Sue **********
Sue **********
Well if you add the time waiting for the bank letter and statement at your branch+making a live witdrawal or deposit the day of your application including updated bankbook at the same time+ copying the bank book? Did you do that the day before? Normally they don’t accept that it has to be from the same day as application (only the updated bankbook) 🤷🏻‍♀️
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Sue Heimchen

Making a transaction, getting TWO letters from the bank and updating the banking book - done the day before

No questions were asked, they didn't require me to open for them the the banking application on smartphone
Sue **********
Sue **********
Michael Sternberg oh then at least you were lucky. In Phuket the bank book update has to be made on the same day and copies as well. But all the other stuff is very fast in Phuket.
Lee ******
Lee ******
Wow, took me 1 hr at Bangkok Bank 1 week before and 1 hr the morning of renewal + 2 hours at immigration. It went smoothly this time, my 4th renewal at Krabi immigration office. Also got a 1 time reentry permit which I know now to always have in case of emergency even if you have no olans to leave🙏
Aslam ******
Aslam ******
Lee Shea Reentry permits can be done at airport prior to departure
Ken *******
Ken *******
Chiang Mai Needs To Be Bigger
Carl *******
Carl *******
Ken Spink needs to change to mostly online and scrap the 3 month check in
Donald ********
Donald ********
@Carl ******
90-day reporting is now done online.
Carl *******
Carl *******
Donald Hauser if it works
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Ken Spink yep

Hordes of expats, the immigration officers are fighting to handle all of them
Alain *********
Alain *********
Moi je l'ai fait en 2 heures et j'ai trouvé que c'était très long😂
Ken *******
Ken *******
Agent 😀🙏
GentleG********
GentleG********
This is super helpful . Thanks!
James ******
James ******
All good information.

I wouldn't advise going on a Monday
Khun *******
Khun *******
James Cree or T,WT,And Friday! 😂🕶️🙏🏻
Callum ********
Callum ********
I haven't done it for a few years and would be interested to know what documents they require these days. I'm due in next month.
Donald ********
Donald ********
@Callum *******
same as the first time you did them no different.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
@Callum *******
I attached pictures with the list of required documents
Callum ********
Callum ********
Thanks. I'll put my glasses on 🤣
Ej ****
Ej ****
Thank you so much for posting your experience! This is so helpful.
Adventurous***********
Adventurous***********
it's insane that instead of getting better things have to get worse. It was in 2012 that people had to stand outside in the night waiting, got a little better around 2020 (maybe someone more efficient led the office) and now it's getting bad like in 2012 again.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
Well done !!
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
Chiang Mai needs at least another “ full “ immigration

Even Hua Hin has 2 !!!
Maxwell *************
Maxwell *************
did a 30 day extension at Bport, took about an hour and a half. Had to visit the basement a few times as different agents wanted copies of various things, none of which were listed on their board
Don *******
Don *******
Amazing. It takes me well under an hour to do my yearly extension at Jomtien which is why I would never bother using an agent for it. But if I had to go through that ridiculous CM procedure I would probably think again about the agent.

By the way, you can save the second round of queueing by getting your single/multiple re-entry permit at the airport on the way out. The cost is the same, or add 200B if you want them to fill in the form and provide the photos.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Don Smith Under an hour? I don't believe it. It took me 5 hours at that office just to get a 30 day extension. If you really did it in less than an hour you must be extremely lucky.
Don *******
Don *******
Jim White I think the 30 day extension can take much longer. The non-O annual extension at Jomtien has never taken me more than one hour and I've done it 14 times. Many others experience the same thing and there are many reports here of that.
Daphne ***********
Daphne ***********
Don Smith I have a question about what you’re advising. I will enter Thailand
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and have to leave
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/2027with an SETP. My retour ticket to the Netherlands is on
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/2027. So my idea was to stay in other countries till
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/2027 and then enter Thailand again on a tourist visum for 30 days. However, my preference is to return to Thailand sooner. Do you advise me to arrange at immigration in Krabi upon the flight from Thailand to get another SETP or METP, or is a tourist visa sufficient to re-enter? I could also potentially return earlier and have the tourist visa extended.
Don *******
Don *******
Daphne van Hove I think you may have misunderstood. The re-entry permit is something that people on annual visa extensions have to get before leaving the country as without it their extension is cancelled when they leave.

Visas are the opposite as they are obtained outside the country before entering. So re-entry permits are not relevant to you.

Other forum experts will be able to better answer your question, and I hope they will, but I think you can just leave as planned on Jan 31 and get another tourist visa before coming back. I don't think there is any issue with having two like that.

I suppose you could also just do two 30-day visa-waiver entries with a brief trip to Malaysia or Vietnam or wherever in-between.

It's not a subject I know much about though as I have been on extensions of my original visa for 15 years.
GentleG********
GentleG********
Don Smith Good to know!!
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
I extended my stay about a month ago in Hua Hin. It took me longer than usual as the Immigration Officer was very thorough, but it took me about 3 hours and that's including the initial document check downstairs. It usually takes me between 30 and 45 minutes.
Ed ******
Ed ******
I would love to see an itemized check list of documents that need to be submitted
Graham ******
Graham ******
Ed Bach so go to your Immigration Office and ask for THEIR list of requirements for the extension you need
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
GentleGoose6420 sure
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Ed Bach I attached photos

But it's relevant for Chiang Mai office only
Glennstev ***********
Glennstev ***********
Michael Sternberg where are the photos you attached?
Ed ******
Ed ******
Michael Sternberg so no criminal background check required (my reform is spotless but I just didn’t know how to go about getting one)
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Ed Bach

no criminal background check required

no medical insurance required

no photo at house's gate required
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
Ed Bach which office?
Dwight ********
Dwight ********
Thank God I got the LTR-WP. 3 minutes at the drive in one time a year..unless you leave the country then it resets.
Cris ******
Cris ******
I had finally thrown in the towel this year and went with an agent the hassle, stress and headache of our local office finally broke me
Michael ********
Michael ********
Always bring a blue pen
Dianne ********
Dianne ********
Thanks so much - it’s a magical mystery tour for newbies like me - the more info the better. You are wonderful.
Max****
Max****
One of the benefits of living in a rural province in Issan is that I finished all of this in less than 30 minutes, with no need to arrive that early.
The_No*******
The_No*******
10 hrs plus of my time is worth the cost of using an agent to do it all for me from picking up my passport at my house and delivering it back to Me.

I don’t need the aggravation and hassle of queuing/waiting/ and being around that many people, it triggers my PTSD.
John *****
John *****
The_Noticer88 My agency even does all the 90 day reports and sends me the stamped and signed copies. I only go to immigration once a year.
Donald ********
Donald ********
John Cat 90 day reporting is now done online takes 5 minutes .
Fabio *******************
Fabio *******************
Donald Hauser If you have returned to Thailand from abroad, you must complete your first 90-day report at the immigration office.
Fabio *******************
Fabio *******************
John Cat In fact, the 90-day report is the only document that can be completed by another person.
Fabio *******************
Fabio *******************
The_Noticer88 I would like to point out that it is illegal to have someone else handle an "over 50" visa extension for you; it must be done in person—not least because a photograph is taken during the procedure. The only type of documentation that can be processed by someone else on your behalf is the 90-day report. The fact that an agent might do this for you is precisely why those who follow the rules—taking a number and waiting their turn—find themselves being cut in line by these agents who bypass the queue entirely.
Donald ********
Donald ********
Fabio Nonrompetelepalle 100 % correct
Fabio *******************
Fabio *******************
Donald Hauser 🙏
Thomas ************
Thomas ************
It just takes 30 min for a one year extension of stay at Rayong 😭 immigration office. Re entry TM8 as well as EOS TM7 is processed at the same counter. I hope you can improve waiting time next year. It should not take 10 hours
Guy *******
Guy *******
Thomas Depenbusch... My re-entry permit in Chiang Rai took 10 minutes.
Scott ******
Scott ******
Guy Casey Usually fairly quick, but the last time I was there, I counted 9 vans of Chinese people, and there wasn't a seat available. I think I was the only one there that wasn't Chinese, lol. No idea why, but that was my last experience. It took around 3 hours, which is really long for that office.
GentleG********
GentleG********
The_Noticer88 Seek counseling then 🤷🏻‍♂️
The_No*******
The_No*******
GentleGoose6420 spoken like a dicktard with no understanding of the condition, counselling doesn’t help everyone! What does help is avoiding situations that can trigger, be thankful you don’t have to cross my path.
Katsu ****
Katsu ****
The_Noticer88 I second your dicktard sentiment.
Brian ********
Brian ********
The_Noticer88 same. Its almost like a process designed to drive business to an agent.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
The_Noticer88 as retired I have all the time in the world..
Lonnie ********
Lonnie ********
Michael Sternberg It's just the opposite. Retirement may give you more free time, but it also means you're older, with fewer years ahead of you. You have more time to yourself, but less time to waste.
Tom *******
Tom *******
Michael Sternberg I did ABC and EBC 10 years ago. Awesome experience. Just don't do it in December. It's f**king freezing but on the flip side less trampers
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Lonnie AtWork I'm 53. Just back from Annapurna track, CrossFit each morning, hikes on weekends, in a perfect shape physically and mentally. With all the latest progress in medicine I do hope to be the same at least 30 more years..
The_No*******
The_No*******
Michael Sternberg I have been retired for years, my time is more valuable than sitting around an Immigration Office jumping through their bureaucracy hoops for the sake of saving a couple of thousand baht to have an agent hand deliver my passport with new extension all done and dusted.
The_No*******
The_No*******
Michael Sternberg that sounds so exciting! 🫩

I would rather be riding my bike 🏍️, getting a massage after swimming 🏊‍♀️ 2klms, then having a nice meal of Khao Mun Gai and chatting with locals at the restaurant.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
The_Noticer88 working on a laptop at a table, with a chair and wifi

no sitting around
Andy **********
Andy **********
Michael Sternberg I'm retired (sort of) too but even I wouldn't put up with that much shit to save £100 or so.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Andy Johnston just to put things into proportion, with £100 in Thailand you can eat for half a month. Breakfast, lunch & dinner each day
Todd ********
Todd ********
To each his own. I go to an agent. 15 seconds to get a photo taken at jomitiem immigration. Pick up extension 2 days later. No mistakes no lines no unexpected bs
Jon ******
Jon ******
Todd Capron my friend did his own this morning in Jomtien. he said they made it super efficient. With his paperwork all in order, he said he was in and out in about 15 minutes. Last year it took me about 1 hour to do my own in Jomtien. It's kind of like baking a cake. Some people are good at reading and following the instructions on the box of cake mix, others are not. Whatever works for each person.
Donald ********
Donald ********
Jon Holu 100 % correct some cannot even read the plans to build a house .
Todd *********
Todd *********
Jon Holu Some enjoy standing in line at banks and government office. And if they have no clue how to invest 800k anyway, they may as well go stand in line.
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Todd McGowan there are big signs all over immigration office in Chiang Mai saying that the documents should be submitted in person. They do not enforce it now, but you know...
Todd ********
Todd ********
Jon Holu easier to buy a cake then to buy all the ingredients and prepare it plus clean the mess. But i get it. Whatever works
Nang ******
Nang ******
Todd Capron , how much you pay for the agent?
Todd ********
Todd ********
Nang Ping 14.000b
Bill *******
Bill *******
Todd Capron No truer words spoken. So worth using an agent.
Jennifer ********
Jennifer ********
Todd Capron Yes, agreed. It's everyone's decision to decide the money/time, convience/inconvenience balance that's good for them. I would use an agent to save 10 hrs at Immigration, or even 2-3 hrs.
Alexander *************
Alexander *************
Real horror! My yearly extension at Udon Thani takes lesser than 1 hour. No queues but better reserve time online just in case.
Justin **********
Justin **********
I didn't use an agent did my research on line ! 10am bank for printing everything require from them . 11 am immigration finished by 130pm including re entry permit . Nakhon Ratchasima immigration was quiet so I was lucky and they were extremely helpful .
Gregory ********
Gregory ********
What size do copies need to be?
Chris **********
Chris **********
@Gregory *******
Coffees need to be a least half a litre. Oh, I misread your question 😂
Michael ***********
Michael ***********
OP
Gregory Hilton of the same size as the originals. I made a mistake, scanned with cellular and printed at home
Gregory ********
Gregory ********
Michael Sternberg I’m just putting them all into one pdf and they come out their original size
Bruce ***********
Bruce ***********
Gregory Hilton My understanding is A4?
Jeen ************
Jeen ************
Bruce Macdonald Yep

And everything in the middel of it printed as passport Pages etc.

Single not dubbel printed pages
Bruce ***********
Bruce ***********
first time for one year retirement visa in Ayutthaya. Got everything on the Ayutthaya immigration website listed. So only took four visits as they kept changing what they wanted. Also condo visit with manager being interviewed and many pictures. Is it usual? I don't know. Maybe see next year.
Bruce ***********
Bruce ***********
Maybe suggest a good agent?
Bruce ***********
Bruce ***********
I didn't use a agent. But I know not all agents are honest and I wanted to do it right.
Wayne *******
Wayne *******
Bruce Macdonald rubbish stupid statement to make which a Idiot who doesn’t want to spend money and would state this
Juli ***********
Juli ***********
we are so lucky living in Chiang Saen, usually the only ones there!
Toby ******
Toby ******
@Juli **********
ditto in Lamphun

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