What is the current cost of obtaining a volunteer visa in Thailand?

@Stu *********

love your analness

@Jane **********

. You're talking out of your backside. I warn people about using scummy agents because it could get them in deep shit. If an agent can do something which you can't do yourself at immigration there's a message there. Probably 90% of what agents do is legal, but that leaves 10%. Why do you think mugs are paying 60,000 baht upwards for a "volunteer" visa without even volunteering, when the real deal costs 2,000 baht. Are you really that stupid? Don't take your bad temper out on me. If you think I'm talking shit, simply ignore me instead of getting worked up

@Bobby *******

Where is your evidence for any of this?\ Who has been deported/locked up etc for using a visa agent? You're the one talking out out of your arse. What is your motivation for talking such crap. Have you thought about seeing a therapist? It might help.

@Jane **********

read the news from time to time) many!

@Sergejs ********

show me ONE

@Jane **********

🙈ffs read the historical news, I will not ran to be your PA, it regularly popped in the news, this or that done wrong by visa agents, starting from fake stamps up to simply negotiated milder irregularities that anyway discovered at later stage and punished.

@Ser****

in all the cases of issues with visa agents I have never seen a report of them going after the customers. As a rule visa agents dealing with farang get legit extensions from immigration, just through questionable means. They have to, fake stamps would not work as they would be picked up immediately when the foreigner leaves.

Any cases with actual fake stamps are dealing with migrant workers from neighbouring countries, who possibly enter and leave in the first place not through an official checkpoint.

@Ivan ***********

of course irregularities are on the shoulders of customers , where else the irregularities can be - depending on a kind and degree of an irregularity an appropriate punitive and or remedial action is taken.

@Ser****

the extensions are legit, and digging into them too much may implicate people actually in immigration, which in general is not what they want. If you have an example of an agent being "busted" that actually resulted in that agents Western customers being arrested/deported for immigration violations, please share.

You are just repeating that there are innumerable reports in the media while not being able to find a single one that actually says this. You will find plenty of reports of visa agents being "busted". Many of which are magically back in business the next day. I have read these too, for many years. Have never seen reference to the customers being rounded up.

@Ivan ***********

among other things agents from time to time stretch legal limits and agree with Immigration on smth. what Immigration should not have done - when it's come to the light, it's often a problem for the customer. If this result that a customer used smth fake or at the moment of review is happening actually to be on overstay (wrongly assuming he's not) then it dealt in a due course of justice, like IDC etc., there is no mercy shown for that.

what I was saying that bona fide customers of visa agents in case of irregularity on the side of visa agent, getting no excuse or indulgence

@Ser****

so where's the evidence for this? 99%+ of the time, I honestly don't think they look into it. If you got it, you got it. What can happen, is that person will be unable to get their NEXT extension. That's what usually happens when there is a crackdown on something, existing people are unaffected, but they can't use the loophole any more.

Even past crackdowns they have had on people who were not really studying properly on Ed visas or not really volunteering properly on those visas, what happened was they grilled them on their next extension and denied them extensions. There have never been mass arrests and IDC and deportations over this stuff, that's a fantasy and doesn't happen.

Any stuff you find about mass roundups of foreigners, it's not Westerners that used dodgy agents.

@Ivan ***********

when someone had been caught with irregularities then they are left with their problem, from time to time there are reports on this, for last couple of years these reports piles up into some number.

it's nothing Thailand specific, all the SEA area has a similar problem when visa agents push the limits, just for different points and needs.

Examples:

(1) Someone was on a dodgy retirement extension where they were loaned the deposit. Immigration close that loophole and now they can't extend without the money. They aren't arrested, they just can't do this for their next extension. If they actually manage to get the money in the bank legitimately, they can extend.

(2) Someone is going to a dodgy school and the school is shut down or they are tested and can't speak Thai. They are denied their extension. They switch to another, somewhat more legitimate school, and continue with that instead. No arrests and IDC.

@Ser****

so post a report. I'm not questioning that loopholes can be closed and someone who used one can be stuck and unable to continue using it and get another extension. That happens.

What doesn't happen is immigration rounding up everyone currently on that loophole and sticking them in IDC.

@Sergejs ********

again - show me evidence of just ONE case.

@Jane **********

in the published news, will not spend a second racking through last few years news, sorry

@Sergejs ********

Well let me help you - you can’t and won’t find an eg because there isn’t one.

@Jane **********

. You're the one getting worked up, so perhaps you need a therapist. Just ignore me.

@Bobby *******

So who there got deported/locked up? NO ONE

@Jane **********

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@Bobby *******

that's all just bollocks (did you actually listen to/watch those? Nope? Thought not).. name me ONE person who has been 'banged up' or deported due to using a visa agent. NO ONE.

@Jane **********

. Everyone else is wrong and you're right. So be happy that you're so perfect. Enjoy your volunteering! 🤣🤣🤣

@Bobby *******

dude I’m not volunteering. 🤪🤪😂😂

Sorry was replying to windbag

@Bobby *******

who is always asserting that everyone is going to get jailed for using a visa agent, which is factually incorrect.

@Ahkim *******

. It's not what people "want", it's possible that may happen.

@Bobby *******

It's exactly what alot of people want. It's called schadenfreude and it's rampant in these visa forums

@Somchit *********

. If people are confident about buying dodgy visas, why are they getting upset? I just like to warn them because I've seen first hand the result of visa fraud, and it ain't pretty

@Som****

, at least you realize

@Ahkim *******

Yeah, and I hate it. It's one ugly human trait and I personally don't understand how anyone can find joy in the misfortunes of others.

yes, it requires a misery deep enough to wish that same pain unto others.

happiness and unity is literally their enemy, as it reminds them of what they no longer have.

how deep and well deserved is the suffering of these husks. yet still it would be better for them to realize how they injure themselves

dont waste my time with your ignorance. look at these vultures, they can't wait for the axe to drop.

lowlifes

@Bobby *******

Where is the evidence for this?

@Jane **********

. Why do I need evidence? I'm not prosecuting a court case! I simply caution people as I've first hand experience of visa fraud. I was staying with my cousin in Chiang Mai when they came for him. He used one of these scum agents to avoid the 800k in the bank. Got away with it for two years. Then the agent got busted. But they don't charge the agent as the agent will hand over their records. 10.30 at night he got the knock on the door and asked to see his bank book. Game over. Arrest. Detention. Deportation. Life Ban. They didn't even let him pack up his condo. I had to do that and send his stuff on. He did say the worst experience was the detention centre. He coughed up the money very fast to get a flight out. He reckons when people describe these centres as "inhumane" they're understating. So not my opinion, and please don't get angry with me simply because I want to warn people. If you think I'm talking shit it's fine, just ignore me!

@Bobby *******

using an agent to obtain visa is legal in thailand. If the agency screws up or get caught, we are not liable to anything, at most we are victims. This story about your cousin is so made up it makes Harry Potter look like an episode of National Geography. No way in hell can the thai government charge anyone for being a victim. You use an agent, which is legal, to get your visa. You provide whatever the agent requires. How is that illegal? Moreover, in your original you mentioned 'fake visa'. Agents dont do fake visas, only fake agents do fake visas if that makes any sense.

@Mark ************************

. There are many comments from both angles in this forum.

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@Mark ************************

. If you are happy to believe that it's good for you! The situation with my cousin I witnessed first hand. The Thais don't recognise the "victim" card. They know when someone is bullshitting. I merely presented an actual event. My term "fake visa" describes an illegally obtained visa. The stamp in the passport is real enough (in most cases), only a few "agents" have been caught with bogus stamps. You are completely at liberty to ignore or disregard what I say. I can't understand why people get so worked up about something which in their mind they believe is equally "fake".

@Bobby *******

'I was staying with a cousin' (yeah right), 'busted', 'knock on the door' 'coughed'. I think you've watched too many 1980s British TV shows mate. I'm not angry. I just wish people like you would stop posting utter crap on the internet. And yes, you're right - I should ignore you and your 'advice' as should everyone else 😂

@Jane **********

- You are very naive... it happens... I have watched it happen to a friend in front of my eyes.

@Joe **********

I’m not naive. I know it’s not strictly ‘legit’ as with so many things in Thailand and life. I know that many people in Thailand are on very limited means and to them paying an agent 1000 bucks is huge if it doesn’t work out. Fortunately I’m not in that position myself. It’s a calculated risk I have taken, pure and simple.

@Jane **********

Kool Breeze is another with advice he pulls off a news wire ...believable sources haha

@Jane **********

. You really are angry. Tell me one reason I'd make that up. What advantage is there? Ignore it, you pathetic moron. What has 1980s TV shows got to do with Thai immigration? Go take your medication. I'm going to try to warn people to be careful.

@Bobby *******

Give me one concrete eg of someone (apart from your 'cousin' LOL) who has been deported/locked up etc for using a visa agent?

@Jane **********

. A bit worried are you? How much did you pay for your "volunteer" visa? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Bobby *******

Liar liar pants on fire

@Jane **********

. Oh dear. Been drinking have you?

Besides your opinion