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What documentation do I need for a retirement visa application in Thailand, specifically regarding medical certificates and police clearance?

Stuart *********
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Hello.

I have been a regular visitor to Thailand for many years and now is the time to stay permanently.

I will be applying for a 90 day non immigrant visa online here in the UK and then after depositing the necessary funds in a Thai bank account will wait the 60 days before heading to my local immigration office in Bueng Gan to apply for a retirement visa. On the official Thai embassy website it says that if I apply to retire in the UK I must provide a medical certificate and police clearance. But if applying in Thailand it says that these "may be requested ". My question is, will I definitely need these certificates? Or is it a case of some immigration offices or officers being more or less stringent. I do want to be prepared especially as I am selling up and leaving sunny Devon forever.

I look forward to any advice 👍
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The user is looking to transition from a regular visitor to a permanent resident in Thailand. They plan on applying for a 90-day Non-Immigrant O visa online from the UK and are inquiring about the necessity of a medical certificate and police clearance for the subsequent retirement visa application in Thailand. Several comments clarify that a medical certificate and police clearance are generally not required for the Non-O visa (only for the Non-OA visa). Users emphasize the importance of checking with the local immigration office for specific document requirements.
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Tim **********
Tim **********
Hi Stuart. I am doing actually the same. Landed in Bangkok yesterday. Apply for a Non O 90 day Visa in the uk on line at the Thai Embassy London. You do not need the medical certificate or police clearance with the Non O. Not the Non OA visa this one you need them. Then after the funds in the Thai bank account you apply for the yearly retirement visa. If you need to speak to the Thai embassy in London be prepared for a long wait to speak to someone. You will be put on hold in a queue and then told that there in a technical problem try later. They have 4 extensions to speak to someone in the visa dept. Try another extension straight away.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
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@Tim *********
thank you Tim. Good luck to you 👍
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Tim *********
Watch the wording: "Then after the funds in the Thai bank account you apply for the yearly retirement visa" . . . . . you DON'T "apply for the yearly retirement visa". You already ENTERED Thailand on the "retirement visa". The retirement visa became INVALID when you entered. You are in Thailand on a 90-days stay permit. You will be applying for the "yearly extension of the stay permit". A stay permit is not a visa
Stuart ******
Stuart ******
@Tim *********
cheers pal
Kevin ********
Kevin ********
Best advice is go to the imigration office you will be applying at and find out what they require its a pretty simple process
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Kevin *******
good idea 👍
Dca *****
Dca *****
Select Non–O E–Visa on the Thai eVisa website and No insurance requirements!

However, if it is Non–OA, then that does have insurance requirements
Mick *****
Mick *****
@Dca ****
Very concise explanation. Word perfect.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Stuart ********
Well, there are several roads leading to the 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa and to the subsequent “1-year Extension of Temporary Stay Permit based on retirement”, which is a long-term stay permit

MIND YOUR WORDING:

In Thailand, you do not apply for the “retirement visa” on Immigration, after you have entered Thailand on a 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O “Retirement Visa” you obtained through the E-Visa online system in your home country.

When you enter Thailand on this 90-days “retirement visa”, you get stamped in for a 90-days stay permit. The “retirement visa” itself will become invalid or “used”. It cannot get “extended”. This is technically not possible. It is just wrong wording used by Thai Immigration, for whom a visa and a stay permit erroneously are the same thing.

(I am talking about the most common misunderstanding regarding the rules that come with applying for the “retirement visa” and the subsequent “one-year extension of stay permit based on retirement”. Misunderstandings happen because a “retirement visa” can mean 7 different visas and stay permits) but let’s remain on topic.

The best way is to show up in Thailand on a 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Retirement/over 50 visa” as it will get you a 90-days stay permit stamped. Within this period you have plenty of time to arrange for the application to the “1-year extended stay permit”. There is NO mandatory health insurance or a police record check or a medical checkup required for this visa-type. These are the requirements only, for the application to the 365-days Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa, which is a complety different visa-type.

If you have arrived on this 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa, you can get a bank account opened on it. You will need the account in case you want to convert the 90-days stay permit to a “1-year extension of the stay permit”.

You can theoretically fly on a one-way ticket because this visa allows you to receive a long-term stay in Thailand. Some airlines might not accept this explanation and will ask you for an onward travel proof out of Thailand within these 90 days, that’s why you should communicate with them by email and see what they say

In order to apply for the “90-days single entry Non-Imm-O retirement visa” through the online E-visa system at the Royal Thai Embassy of your home country, you can

EITHER

use the proof of income of a monthly minimum of 65.000.- THB, by using your original pension or other income documentation,

OR

you can use a deposit of a minimum of 800.000.- THB or the equivalent in your home country currency, or on your home bank account, or on your Thai bank account (if you got one), or just anywhere in the World – as long as it is in your sole name

However, for the later application inside Thailand, for the “1-year extension of stay permit” out of the 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa, the financial proof is different.

If you are a citizen of a country whose embassy in Thailand does not issue a certified “income affidavit” any more - these are the embassies of USA, Canada, UK, Norway and Australia) you would need a “12 months bank statement”, showing that for the past 12 months, you have been transferring from abroad to your Thai bank account a minimum of 65,000 THB, consecutively month for month.

If your embassy still issues a certified affidavit of income, you can use this method for the financial proof, which needs a monthly income or pension of a minimum of 65,000 THB

For British, Australian and U.S. citizens, in the first year there is no other way around, than depositing a minimum of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account, and use this deposit for the financial proof which is required for the application to the “1-year extension of stay permit based on being over 50/retired”, at least in the first year

The alternative would be, if you don’t have that kind of money or are not willing to deposit in a Thai Bank account is, paying an agent to “arrange” the requirements, which I, however, do not recommend

As soon as you have accumulated the 12 consecutive months of 65,000 THB transfers, month for month, you can apply for the next 1-year extension of the stay permit, using the 12- months bank statement, in the second year. After being issued the next extension, you can theoretically take the 800,000 THB out of your bank account.

This application to a 1-Year Extension costs a 1900 THB fee and you can theoretically do it all by yourself, or accept the help of an agent for the simplified legal service.

NOTE: It is income OR deposit.

However, there is a third method, called the “combination method”: A combination mix of income and deposit.

Some immigrations don’t allow the combination method in the first year.

And some Immigrations want the deposit part to exceed a minimum of 400,000 THB.

The combination method means that the sum of the deposit AND the monthly income exceeds 800,000 THB in one year.

But let’s continue with the “normal method” (visa issued in your home country, followed by the application to the 1-year Extension inside Thailand):

On the day of application to the 1-year extension, the 800,000 THB need to have “seasoned” in your account for two months, and this has to be proven with the “bank letter of guarantee” (rab roong thanakan).

After been issued the “1-year Extension of the Stay Permit based on Retirement”, the 800K need to remain in the account for 3 more months. After these 3 months, the deposit shall never go under 400,000 THB. And before the application for the next “1-year Extension of Stay”, a minimum of 800,000 THB must have seasoned in the account for two months, again.

On the day you get issued the “1-year extension of stay permit”, you should buy a re-entry permit for it.

A re-entry permit will keep your stay permit alive and valid in case you exit Thailand before the expiry of the 1-year stay permit.

A single re-entry permit is 1000 THB on Immigration. A multi re-entry is 3800 THB. With a multi re-entry permit, you can exit and re-enter as many times as you wish during the whole 1-year stay permit period.

Good Luck and a great time in Thailand
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Kevin ********
Kevin ********
@Greg **********
when I go to immigration for the 1 Yr extension, do I need a certificate of residence tm30 for the 1 yr period. As when I come over on the 90 day e visa, I will book accommodation for 90 days and use the tm30 for that to open my Thai bank account
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Kevin *******
a certificate of residence and the TM30 registration are TWO different things . . . . your landlord or house master or the hotel are required to TM30 register you on Immigration within 24 hours of your arrival at the accomodation. Any service you are asking from Immigration requires you already been properly registered. The "certificate of residency" document can only be issued by Immigration if they see your TM30 on their computer. NOTE: take two passport pictures with you, they maybe will need these for the COR . .. . for the 1-year Extension you don't need to show any "certificate of residence" however to be able to apply for the 1-year extension, you need to be properly registered by a TM30. You don't need to take anything to Immigration with you, since they can see your TM30 registration on their computer and will go from there
Kevin ********
Kevin ********
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
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@Greg **********
Thank you for the information. The only thing that I wanted to clear up was whether I would need to submit a medical certificate and Thai police check when extending to the 1 year extension (retirement visa) whilst in Thailand. I have nothing to fear concerning these certificates but want to be clear on everything in advance. You say I will not need to produce these certificates when extending. Is that correct?
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Stuart ********
No, you won't need to show any of the above proofs you mentioned. You will be able to apply for the 1-year extension out of a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa if you are properly registered by a TM30 (which Immigration can see on their computer). You will need to fulfill the financial requirements (which are EITHER 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account,sitting in it since 2 months on the dsay you apply, OR a certified income affidavit from your embassy, OR proof of 12-months of consecutive transfers from abroad of a minimum of 65,000 THB)
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Greg **********
Thank you Greg. All clear now 👌
Alfred *****
Alfred *****
@Greg **********
the best explanation so far, reading through so many blogs . Factual information and such easy to follow information.. thank you
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Alfred ****
thank you
Steve ******
Steve ******
@Greg **********
well done Greg, excellent explanation.
Ian *******
Ian *******
@Greg **********
a very detailed and informative explanation, well done.
Nancy ******
Nancy ******
@Greg **********
thanks for this very clear information.
Ian **********
Ian **********
Your money must be in the bank for 60 days, but you can apply for an extension up to 30 days before your non-o expires. You do not need insurance or a police check. Visit the immigration office as soon as possible and ask what documents they require.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Ian *********
good advice, thank you Ian 😊
Alfred *****
Alfred *****
@Ian *********
this is more accurate
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Ian *********
Unfortunately, you wording is wrong. The non-O visa itself expires when you enter Thailand on it. You receive a 90-days stay permit when you enter Thailand. You must apply for the "1-year extension of the stay permit" before the 90-days stay permit expires, the soonest being the day when your 800,000 THB deposit in your Thai bank account has been sitting in the account for a minimum of 2 months
Mark *********
Mark *********
Your permanent stay may be interrupted by a brief stay in prison before being deported. Basically if you don't break too many laws you will be allowed to stay. But as you are not a Thai citizen you will remain an ALIEN for as long as the Thai government let's you stay. Farangs can't stay permanently in the Kingdom of Thailand.
Ayzek *****
Ayzek *****
@Mark ********
How dare you to suggest prison for someone you have no idea about ??? You arrogant preak.
Mark *********
Mark *********
@Ayzek ****
Whats a preak?
Mark *********
Mark *********
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Mark ********
I am fully aware of what you say. May be the way I "worded " my post was a little misleading. I have spent 19 years with my girl in darkest Isan building a future for us together in my retirement. Thank you for your input 👍
Mark *********
Mark *********
@Stuart ********
There is nothing 'dark' about Isaan. Unless you are referring to skin colour. The cities of Udon Thani and Khon Kaen have all the modern conveniences. Someone I knew from decades ago has lived there for years. He is an alcoholic but that can happen anywhere.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Mark ********
When I say dark, I am not referring to skin colour but using an old phrase commonly used to describe anywhere, e.g darkest Devon (my home) or darkest Birmingham. My girlfriend and I have a lovely house and garden in a very rural area of Isan. And I wouldn't want it any other way. Please don't patronise me
Donald **********
Donald **********
@Mark ********
and most of those farangs rarely see Thailand outwith the confines of Pattaya, Bangkok, Patong or the party Koh’s. Have a superior attitude, treat the Thais as inferior beings and live on a diet of fry ups and cheap Chang.
Mark *********
Mark *********
@Donald *********
Yes. Sum num na.
Stephen ********
Stephen ********
@Mark ********
🤣🤣🤣
Mark *********
Mark *********
@Stephen *******
Yes. The illusion is soon shattered when they revoke your visa and/ or demand thousands of baht to 'fix' your problem.
Donald **********
Donald **********
@Mark ********
watch you don’t fall off your bar stool 🤡
Mark *********
Mark *********
@Donald *********
555. Some farangs think they can live permanently in Thailand. If you are prepared to jump through all the hoops and clear the hurdles you can create an illusion of being a permanent part of Thailand. However once you break enough rules and / or run out of money then goodbye ALIEN!
Michael *******
Michael *******
I applied in phuket for my non 0 . They did not require medical or police certification! I needed non o. Before i applied for 1 year marriage extension. Bare in mind while waiting for my 90 day non 0 visa. You are not allowed to leave thailand.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Michael ******
Yes you can but you need a re-entry permit to keep your 90 day stamp valid
Michael *******
Michael *******
@Graham *****
interesting graham. I meant I could not leave while waiting approval . M
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Michael ******
If there is a home visit planned during the under-consideration then an exit/re-entry can be done by co-ordinating with the Immigration Office at the time of the extension application
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Non-O doesn't need health insurance or police check. That's the Non-OA, a different visa. Apply for Non-O.
Stuart ******
Stuart ******
Hi I was under the impression that if you get a non O visa 90 day's you don't need to get insurance. But if you get a A/O visa then you do. This is what I believe is right.
Michael ********
Michael ********
@Stuart *****
that's correct 👍
Graeme ******
Graeme ******
Hi I think you are looking at the non O-A visa which requires police checks and insurance and medical. You i think want a non O over 50 retirement visa where there is no medical, police checks etc. required, only 800baht equivalent in your uk bank. When you arrive in thailand then open a thai account put the 800kbaht in it and apply for a 1 year extension. No insurance or other police checks needed
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Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
Thank you everyone for your very helpful input. Everything is much clearer now. Just waiting for my house sale to go through and I will hopefully be back in Beung Gan province with my sweetie and dogs by Christmas. And beyond! Happy days 👍
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
OP
@Graeme *****
Yes Graeme, I am looking to get the non O over 50 retirement visa. I don't think I made myself absolutely clear in my post! Thank you for your help 👍
Gerry ******
Gerry ******
@Graeme *****
correct 💯

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