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What are the requirements for retiring in Thailand, particularly regarding bank accounts and property ownership?

Mar 11, 2025
3 days ago
Beaven *********
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Hi, complete Thailand newbie here...

Live Qld

Plan on retiring in few years to Thailand, chang mai looks good

I plan a number of trip prior get lay of the land etc

And come 65 ish ( 3 years ) jump ship with the dog and the missus and go over for 3-4 months before I decide exactly where to put roots down but as said from what I read Chang Mai looks sweet

My questions are thus

1. I'm told if I move with a sense of permanency I need to put the equalivant of 37 grand Oz into bank ACC , 800000 Bhat this correct ?

2 . You can't buy outright a dwelling, you buy a long term lease ??

Lots more no doubt but taking bite size chunks this far

Regards and thanks
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The user, a beginner considering retirement in Thailand, particularly in Chiang Mai, has several questions about the requirements for moving. They want to know if it's necessary to have 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account to qualify for a retirement visa, and if foreigners can own property outright or if they must rely on long-term leasing. Responses suggest confirming recent visa rules, exploring locations in Thailand through visits, and understanding the separate ownership of bank accounts for visa purposes. Additionally, comments warn about pollution in Chiang Mai, challenges of bringing pets, and pitfalls in property ownership.
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Ste *******
Why would you retire where you've not been? Is this a joke?
Sharron *******
Once you bring the dog to Thailand, its hard to get dog out of Thailand. Many countries don't really want you to bring your dog back. There is a lot to get done, just to bring dog to Thailand. Special form, special shots, universal chip, not just regular one. Many condos will not rent with pets. Or the rent is almost double because of pet. But most condos do not allow pets at all.
Kool *******
Okay, if you are serious about this permanent move to Thailand, take it in steps, and this is a little more detailed to what everyone has said so far. First, set up separate bank accounts in Australia for both you and your wife in each of your names, with at least the equivalent of bt800,000+ each, not a joint account, this makes some future details much easier. For your next trip here go onto this website, and apply for the type O visa based on retirement, and each of you do this so you each have separate visas, and why you need two bank accounts. This gives you each 90 days in Thailand when you enter. You've got 90 days to use it once it is issued, and is bt2000. That this gives both of you is the needed expat visas to open your Thai bank accounts without having to use an expensive agent to do it. Sure you could come in on a visa exempt 60 day free entry, but you can not get a Thai bank account on any tourist entry anymore by yourself, and in the future you will both need your own type O visa extension (one year at a time), so you both need your own bank accounts to do that, as not every immigration office allows joint accounts for both your retirement visa extensions. Also, it gives you the ability to use electronic payments here with no problem on your first vacation. When you decide where you actually want to live, and long term, your Thai bank accounts will have been taken care of, as they do not disappear, and you can get another type O visa for the initial 90 days living here, and the time to get your money transferred into Thailand for your long term visa extensions. This is the easiest long term visa extension to get. As soon as your bt800,000 baht has been in your accounts for at least two months, you can apply for your one year extensions, at bt1900 each.

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Foreigners can not own land. You can only lease it, for upto 30 years. You can own condos though. Bangkok is very good to base out of. Best medical is in Bangkok. Best food selection is in Bangkok. And, you can go most anywhere in South East Asia and all of Thailand, in just a few hours. It is very nice living here. Also, make sure you have your health insurance worked out here, as the older you get the less choices you have. Private hospitals are the most expensive, as they are for profit. The government, and university hospitals are top quality, and about
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as expensive. Don't be fooled by promotions by some of the private hospitals, all doctors speak English.
Alan ******
Chaing Mai
Richard ********
Look closely at the regulations that apply to your dog’s expatriation. It’s a bit of a process.
J ******************
Consider all the possible pitfalls of bringing a dog to Thailand before doing so .It is more than likely a one way ticket
Kane *******
3 years is a long time in the world of Visa Validity... it's a lucky dip on rules at each city/province. What may be applicable today is often unlikely to be valid closer to your time of move. By all means, do your homework and become informed (both of you).
Colin *********
@Kane ******
so, tell me what's changed regarding Visas in the past 3 years, the ones that most foreigners apply for ( Non-O based on Retirement or marriage)? I've been closely monitoring these things for a little over two years and haven't noticed any changes. The only 'big thing' for foreigners that I've seen is that recently there's been a clamp down on opening Thai bank accounts while on tourist visas, due to the Thai Government clamping down on 'scam centres' in neighbouring countries along the borders.
Kane *******
@Colin ********
... the introduction of the elite Visa... the 60 day Visa exempt, changes to border runs and reentry, etc, there are a quite a few... how many times have you read about an anticipated change and comments say..." it's not official until its published in the Gazette "
Colin *********
@Kane ******
did you not notice on the third line of my previous comment, the word "most" and the rest of that sentence/question? That's because "most" foreigners and in this case, specifically the OP was not asking about an Elite Visa. As they were planning to retire in Thailand, nor were they asking about 60 day Visa Exempt, which is NOT a Visa at all, but instead a stamp put in the passport upon entry. Border runs aren't visas either and I'm pretty sure that you won't find anything in the "Gazette" about them, as they are part of Border control by the Immigration Department, not the MFA.
Kane *******
@Colin ********
did you not notice my point was that it is likely there will be modifications/changes to required criteria over a duration of three years that will determine an applicants elegability of permitted entry/stay within the Kingdom ! It must be exhausting for you seeking validation of your comments... your not as relevant as you think you are... grow up !
Ian **********
My wife and I (both now retired, I am 73) have owned our condo in Thailand for ten years (freehold under conditions set out in Condominium Act). We have not "lived" there... more like lengthy holidays. That said, we're considering applying for the retirement visa which I understand requires 800k baht to be held in Thai bank account.

There is a lot to learn about Thailand, about Thai bureaucracy, and about how business gets done.

My advice?

Start your research early.

Visit often and spend time in different locations.

Pay for reputable advice/agents when you must.

Only commit large sums of money after thorough research and lengthy "in country" experience.

Some cautions:

Yes, Chang Mai has terrible pollution for months every year.

Yes, Thailand has the highest per Capita road fatalities in the world ...almost all of them are pedestrians and motor cyclists.

Yes the Andaman coast has cleaner water for swimming/snorkelling than the Gulf coast.

Yes, the Thai language is difficult to learn. I have not succeeded but Google Translate goes a long way.

Yes we absolutely love our Thai condo (it's in a regional area with few tourists and little English spoken), but we're planning to sell and in hindsight would not have bought in the first place We reckon long term rentals would have better suited our lifestyle.

Yes Thailand is a good retirement destination. The food is superb. But take the time to find THE "Thailand" that best suits you.

All the best
Robert *********
@Ian *********
well said
David *******
@Ian *********
great comments
Brian *********
Simple answer is generally you can own a house, but you can’t own the land it’s sitting on. It’s messy.
Robert *********
Did you know about the three months of bad bad pollution every year in Chang Mai ?
Ben *******
@Robert ********
... What are the three months of burning? Cheers, Rob.
Beaven *********
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@Ben ******
Feb March April farmers burn off their stock plants I hear , very bad smog

...you got asthma connect urself to Ur inhaler

I don't know if it's country wide or just Chang Mai ....but masks at a minimum I'm told
Ben *******
@Beaven ********
Thanks, Beaven.
Garry *******
Mate, definitely come over and do some trips first. Get a feel for the different areas.

Don't come with pre- conceived ideas.

Start learning some Thai words as soon as possible.

It's not a perfect place to live, but it is far ahead of Australia for livability at this point.

You can own a condo freehold, but if you want a house and a yard, garden etc... then yes it's either renting, or enter into somewhat murky and risky, shelf company arrangement which I don't recommend.
Chad ***********
@Garry ******
slow down on the shelf company advice. If you check the news the government is cracking down because technically this is illegal
Garry *******
@Chad **********
Well if you re-read my comment, it was actually advising against it.
Chad ***********
@Garry ******
then why even say “enter into..” why not just say “this is illegal m. Do not do it because the government is now cracking down”.

Your post sounds like it’s a grey area that is not really monitored. The news is quite clear me that the government is all over it.
Jim ********
Before committing yourself to Chiang Mai, take a look around. Don't get too obsessed at having to buy somewhere to live - chances are you'll regret it long term. Rent for shorter terms in a few places. Keep in mind that Feb-March-April CM becomes the most polluted city on the planet. If you have any respiratory issues, you will suffer badly. If you don't have respiratory issues, you soon will. Just take your time and explore
Jim ********
@Garry ******
Pretty solid advice ✅✅
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